Forum:The Pub

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nl:Forum:De kroegli:Forum:De Kaffeero:RoWikicity:Cafeneasv:Forum:Krogen Welcome to The Pub! This is the general meeting place in Lovia. Inhabitants can make public announcements, have a friendly chat with some copatriots, or discuss crucial issues in Lovian politics or business. Speeches can also be made at Speakers' Corner. All archives of The Pub can be found here.

King Sebastian speaking


Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. My most beloved fellow countrymen, a new age is upon us. Today marks the beginning of a new period in our time, a new era in Lovian history. With the abdication of our most honourable King Dimitri, and the recent misfortunes of his brother Prince Alexander, a new King will take the throne. That King, my dear brothers and sisters, is me. And that day, is today. Today is not only a day of celebration for yours truly and you, my friends, but also one of reflection. Let us remind the brave sacrifices our previous King has made for us. Surely my cousin has worked well, has he not? Surely he has worked hard, and given up so much for his work. Free time he had not, tirelessly working for the good of the nation. But every man has a limit, a breaking point. His came two years ago, in 2011. No speech or public appearance we saw since. My cousin is not a bad man, he isn’t. But neither is he a strong man, nor very passionate about the affairs of state. Ever since the Civil War he preferred to stay out of the limelight, hiding away in his private domicile with his wife Elizabeth. He has every right to do so, but a nation needs a head of state who is visible, who is there for his people. Especially when dark days are ahead, when violence sweeps the nation and his people need him most. In the Civil War I fought, as did brave men such as Oos Wes Ilava, and Mr. Costello. As did many, many other daring men and women. Young and old, they shed blood for the nation, and our current wealth shows it this was not in vain.

My cousin, however, did nothing. When there was trouble, he fled. Flat-out ignored it, refused to comment. A coup? He fled. A war tearing apart the nation he is supposed to rule? Nowhere he is to be seen. I will have no ill word spoken of this man, as he is my flesh and blood and I care for him deeply. But this man, we can all agree, was neither strong nor powerful and was clearly not cut out for the job. He lacked courage and he lacked conviction. He was a man of books, a man of letters. A learned man, but hardened nor strong. He was stately nor imposing, as much in need of a spine as I am of intellectual prowess. I stand here before you, not a learned man like him, but a man like any other. I am not a bookworm, though I love reading, nor am I a professor. I do not hide my nose in books or my wife’s bosom when my people need me.

Today, people of Lovia, we do not lose a King, we gain one. For we cannot miss him who is never there, nor can we lose that which we never had for the last two years. Dimitri gains a private life, and the ability to live out the rest of his days as a private citizen. He can now focus on his studies, his work and Elizabeth, his wife, who I know is the love of his life. Away from the terrible job, that dreadful task to lead a nation, he can finally raise the family he’s been dreaming of, and retreat into the unknown as Prince Dimitri. And I wish him the best of luck on doing so. This man was never supposed to be a King, he never really became one either. Still we will miss him and remember the things he has done for us. Five years he has ruled us, five long years it have been. We owe him our deepest gratitude. But now a new day is here, a new era has arrived.

Lovia’s a democracy, Lovia’s the land of the free. Lovia is a country for you and for me. Lovia is, too, a monarchy. But you cannot be a monarchy without a King. So from this day forward, let it be known... Lovia is Lovia again, the way Lovia is supposed to be. A monarchy not in name only, but in the fullest meaning and sense of the word. God Bless Lovia, and may His light shine down upon us all, for we Lovians are truly born under lucky stars and good things shall come to us!

:King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 12:55, August 30, 2013 (UTC)

It's nice to have a king finally make a speech in Lovia after Dimitri didn't give us a Christmas Speech, which many people in Lovia were disappointed about, however it seems that with a reasonably long speech, you have made up for that, and it is also understandable why Dimitri didn't make a Christmas Speech.

There was alot of smack talk about Dimitri in there, but it's nice to see we have a king that finally takes the time to make some speeches. Thanks for making this speech, I'm sure lovians will be very happy to finally have a king who makes speeches.  Happy65   Talk CNP   13:11, August 30, 2013 (UTC)

Nice speech! That's all I can say now :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 14:06, August 30, 2013 (UTC)

I am perfectly okay with this... but I want to make a request: Could you retake your photos, but this time with no neckbeard? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:38, August 30, 2013 (UTC)

Btw, it looks like we still need four more votes in the Second Chamber for the referendum to be ratified. :s —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:47, August 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * @TimeMaster: Dimitri abdicates, he told Yuri he sees no reason to be king anymore with so little investment on his part, with no time and motivation. He abdicates and thus, with our monarch's agreement and the nation's majority on our side, Oos and I have taken the liberty of replacing Dimitri with his cousin. If you see the Main Page you will see these changes have by now been officially implemented. As for my facial hair, haters gonna hate. This King's scruffy whether you like it or not. Babyface Belgian nerd out, handsome stubbly outdoorsman in! King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 16:06, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * If we wanted facial hair, we could just have gone for Alexander. :P --Semyon 17:40, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * @TM: :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:15, August 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * How long did it take you to write that speech? Seriously though, even though I wanted a republic it's good to see a King that is a good speech writer and more importantly ACTIVE!! Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 21:23, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * It took me about twenty-twentyfive minutes to write this speech, then a minute to post it. It's really pretty easy when you're used to writing long essays and stories, or regularly exchanging lengthy emails. Which I am. Writing a speech similar to this one on a regular basis is, for me, not much of a bother at all. I like to do it, and do it with ease. They'd be fitted to the occassion, and you can also request a speech from me on a certain subject you yourself find important. All you need to know is go to my talk page and have me know. I'm a king of all Lovians after all.  King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 22:21, August 30, 2013 (UTC)

Referendum
I was thinking about all the recent events, and I thought it might be a good idea to make the monarchy/republic referendum IC and the Sebastian/Dimitri referendum OOC. So the IC storyline would be: Dimitri abdicates, and Congress decides that given a significant republican sentiment in the nation, it would be a good idea to hold a referendum on the continuation of the monarchy before crowning a new king. The referendum is rejected by a large margin - as it was OOC - and as Alexander has requested to be removed from the LoS, Sebastian is crowned immediately. I think this is a nice explanation, but any thoughts? --Semyon 16:54, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:16, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 17:18, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 17:27, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * 35% Republic, 65% Monarchy appears to be the correct numbers for the IC referendum. We need a good reason for Dimitri abdicating, though. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 18:13, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * I still like the 'He became a republican' reason. :P --Semyon 18:17, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Having lost most if not all of his popularity in recent years, starting during and after the Civil War, King Dimitri has decided to abdicate as he feared for him to stay on as King would ultimately hurt the monarchy's standing in society beyond repair. Each day of his unpopular rule would have made it harder for his ultimate successor, so partiallly his abdication was a form of royal damage control. He also genuinely lacks motivation and conviction to fulfill a duty he no longer wholeheartedly supports, for personal reasons. King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 18:18, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * So this a vote to agree on a story, right? We could just say that Dimitri wants to dedicate more time to his family and other interests, or more interestingly that he got a strange illness that stopped him from ruling Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 21:25, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Can we just say health reasons? Like idk hes a strong ass cancer beating dude and shit? Marcus/Michael Villanova 03:02, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, a king would normally not abdicate for health reasons at such a young age. Usually, he'll just temporarily step away from public life. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:04, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

The speech already gave me a bad vibe, you really didn't need to call Dmitri a weak man. ---Sunkist- (talk) 16:40, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back Sunkist! It'll be good to have you back again, as we can both work on Charleston together as part of the local council :D Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 16:51, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

To return to the subject of the referendum - can I assume no-one has any objections, and I can create an article about it? --Semyon 19:52, August 31, 2013 (UTC)


 * None by me. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 20:20, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

I'm pro making an article. I'll upload some pie charts from Excel if you like :D Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 20:21, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

1,000th edit
I know this is going to sounds slightly insignificant, as Oos just got his 15,000th edit and is quickly approaching the 16,000 mark, but I just wanted to mention that this is my 1,000th edit! I know I've only been here since March but it feels like much longer, and I've had a great time in this wonderful little county! Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 21:37, August 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * :o Congratulations! :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:04, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! :) Then it feels a bit weird that I've been here for over a year and still haven't even done my 500th edit :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 09:19, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Less talkie, more workie I'd say :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:22, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * :o 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 09:44, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Oh and by the way 4kant, starting a business really helps get your edit count up :) Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 16:54, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Trolling on talk pages works just fine too. It got me up to 15,000 edits :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 21:26, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Or making pointless edits on your user page Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 21:27, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * In future, all my edits will be made one letter/byte at a time. :P --Semyon 21:29, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Good luck. I can imagine your average sentence length being less than it's now. Trying to write this would take ages :P And, you wouldn't be able to sign your post with a time stamp, as only gives a user page link :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 21:31, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * It works fine. --Semyon 21:49, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, it looks like I failed already. I thought I was being clever manipulating spaces. :'( Also, spaces between words caused a lot of trouble, because you can't save a space at the end of a word. --Semyon 21:52, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * You are bad at this :'( --O u WTBsjrief-mich 21:58, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's very hard! I'm sure there are better ways to accumulate edits. --Semyon 22:05, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Writing one sentence per edit when writing an article? :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 07:55, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Holding discussions about how to accumulate edits? :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:22, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Good idea :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 11:00, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * You just effectively killed this discussion :( --O u WTBsjrief-mich 11:39, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Apologizing for that would also be a way to do a new edit :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 11:50, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Doubtful, it might trigger a temporarily revival of the discussion though :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 11:58, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * That reminds me, I wanted to apologize for all these pointless edits. --Semyon 12:02, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Apology accepted :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:08, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Why do you consider these pointless edits? :o These edits are important for the nation's prosperity :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:11, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * (edc)Thank you. I appreciate it more than you can know. :P --Semyon 12:15, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Why do you guys keep killing this discussion? Am I the only one with a heart here? :'( --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:18, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't want to kill the discussion, but discussions tend to die after some time, unfortunately :'( 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:21, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * No, you tend to kill them :( Why don't you learn from master Uncle OWTB? :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:22, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * You are blaming me, so I am sad, so I might leave this discussion, so you may become the indirect cause for this discussion's death :o 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:26, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * No, I'm trying to teach you a life lesson. Don't you want to become even smarter and more skilled in life? :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:28, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:28, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Then why do you feel offended when I'm sharing parts of my knowledge with you? :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:32, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Because you are sadifying me? :o 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:34, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think 4kant should apologize. :P --Semyon 12:35, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * He should :( He is sadifying not only himself, but also the other users :'( --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:36, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry :o And I wasn't sadifying myself :o 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:38, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Then who did? :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:39, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * You did :'( 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:40, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Lying is not very nice :'( --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:40, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * That untrue comment sadifies me :'( 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:41, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * You may not unlie a lie for it to be true if it's not the truth :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:43, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * I am not lying :o 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:44, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * You are unlying lies though, which could be seen as a form of not telling the truth :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:45, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Unlying sounds a bit like telling the truth though :o 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:47, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * "ontleugenen" to make a lie no longer seem to be a lie :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:48, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * "Onliegen" :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:50, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * No, "ontleugenen" :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:50, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * I prefer "onliegen", as it basically means the same as "tell the truth" :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:53, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, it wasn't the definition I meant :o --`O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:54, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * :'( 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:58, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * You are killing this discussion again and you're a liegenaar :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:59, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * "Liegenaar" is a takavíhki word, in netakavíhki Dutch it's "leugenaar" :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 13:01, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * You obvious are not a native Dutch speaker :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:03, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Wrong :p 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 13:04, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Then why is your surname "Jones"? :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:06, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Not having a Dutch surname isn't the same as not speaking Dutch natively :o 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 13:08, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Tss... Not having a Dutch surname makes you a faker :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:13, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * :'( Why do you always have to sadify me :'( 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 13:17, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * :'( Why do you always have to sadify me by saying I sadify you and by not using a question mark? :'( --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:18, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * :'( Because I'm sad when I've been sadified :'( 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 13:20, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

Category
Alright, I just did some fixing on our category system. To make it clear to all users for once and for all, I'll give you guys the standard set of rules to work with :P I hope all of you guys are now able to follow the rules, so we don't have to update everything every year :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:09, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) Categories in Lovia are usually not in plural: Category:Writer.
 * 2) Unless it's a specific group: Category:Nicomedia novels.
 * 3) Or Wikia-automated category, most likely to be file copyright cats: Category:Fair use files.
 * 4) Only the first element of the category is capitalized: Category:Baseball player.
 * 5) Unless it's part of a name that is generally fully capitalized, most likely a building/company/etc: Category:Royal Art Gallery.
 * 6) It is a family name category: Category:Hladovka Family.
 * 7) Please note: "royal" is not a surname in Category:Royal family.
 * 8) Categories are named with articles if it's a phrase which usually takes an article: Category:Image of an animal and Category:Image of the Capitol.
 * 9) Several categories are not used:
 * 10) f.e. Category:Author > Category:Writer (try to check synonyms if a cat does not exist).
 * 11) Category:Church > Category:Church (building) and Category:Church (organization) (disambiguous).


 * I am at least able to follow the rules, though I don't know how about next year's new users :o 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 11:08, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * We need to set up a category course :o Quick guideline for using categories in Lovia, pocket edition :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 11:38, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * I propose a category for wrongly categorised pages. All pages can be put straight in - the wrongly categorised ones because they're wrongly categorised, and the correctly categorised will need to be in the wrongly categorised category once they've been put into the wrongly categorised category, because being correctly categorised, the wrongly categorised category is the wrong category for them. :P --Semyon 11:52, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * And furthermore: when the correctly categorised pages become wrongly categorized through their addition to the wrongly categorised category, the wrongly categorised category will become the right category for them. So being now correctly categorised, the wrongly categorised category will be the wrong category for them. Hence why it's fine for them to be in it. --Semyon 11:57, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * But wouldn't that also require a bot-created "Category:Uncategorised categories based on correctness of categorization"? :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 11:58, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * As long as it's put into the wrongly categorized category category, I don't mind. :P --Semyon 12:06, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * That was a typo, I actually meant to write wrongly categorised page category. A wrongly categorised category category might not be a bad idea though. --Semyon 12:07, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't that result in an infinite chain of wrongly categorised category categories? :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:10, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * But, if a correctly categorised page is put into the wrongly categorised pages category, it'd become wrongly categorised and thus it'd belong in the wrongly categorised pages category, causing the page to be correctly categorised again and then we have a paradox :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:14, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Simple solution: include them in both categories, as to both categories the page belongs :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:17, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * (two edc) @Oos: You have a problem with that? These categories are important for our nation's prosperity. Lovia's unemployment rate will drop to zero with the boom in the categorization industry. :o @4kant: I'm going to ignore your edit. It's too pointless for me. --Semyon 12:19, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * No, you found the solution to world-wide unemployment :o Everybody's gotta work in the Lovian categorization business! :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:21, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Some people will have to work in the Lovian contradiction solving business though :o 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:24, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * That contradicts with the statements presented hereabove :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:25, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * That's why we need some people to solve those contradictions :o 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:27, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * There are not enough contradictions for them to create sustainable jobs :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:28, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Then we also need some people to create new contradictions :o 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:29, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * That's even less sustainable. :o Actually, I realised that if all the categorization industry can do is produce wrongly categorized categories, it's not really worth investing in. --Semyon 12:32, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * At least unemployment rates drop :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:33, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Which certainly is a good thing :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:39, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Indeed :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:41, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Is this discussion dying now? :o 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:42, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * It seems so :( --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:43, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * :( 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:45, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * :'( --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:45, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Can this still be counted as a discussion? :o 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:48, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * An emocussion? :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:49, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * If that's something else than a discussion, we should declared the old discussion dead :( 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:51, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Or this is a "throughstart" like happens to faillite bedrives :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:52, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Mayhaps :o Now I might appear a bit Tåpassy if i'd complain about those Dutchisms :p 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:55, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * There are here no netherlandisms :| --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:57, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * No, naturally not :o 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:58, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Tha's what I bedoole :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:00, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Inderdade :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 13:02, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * I am it fully with you once :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:03, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Tha's whole good :o 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 13:05, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Whole eerie good? :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:08, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is whole eerie good :o 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 13:11, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, than is it good :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:12, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay :o 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 13:15, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Or as Northern Dutchies'd pronounce it: Aauwkaaij :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:17, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * They are very takavíhki :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 13:19, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ja, dât sjaaijn sje sjaaijkuij :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:24, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

Those Little Things
Dear people of Lovia, may I thank you sincerely for all the support you’ve given me. Thank you for your love and devotion, I shall aim to repay this by doing my best. Today I want you to think about something that to your King means the world. I want you to think of how beautiful and green our country is, an how refreshing a walk in its nature can be. Think of a picnic with a lover in the park, a lazy afternoon at the water or a barbeque with family. These are the things that make life worthwhile, more so then building sites, megalomaniacal projects of reputation-driven politicians and local figureheads attempting to leave behind a legacy.

If you want to leave a legacy for all to enjoy, live your life happily and fruitfully. Do not leave the faucet running as you brush your teeth, take a walk when you’re able to do so rather then get out the car for the shortest of distances as some are prone to do. The beauty of Lovia that we see all around us, from the Palace Gardens to the Emeralds, and the wild highlands of Oceana. From the shores of Peace Island to the plains of Plains, my dear Lovians this beauty comes not for free. It comes with a price, and that price is personal responsibility. We all are responsible for the land we live in and therefore I, as your King, wish to make an appeal on you.

Focus a little bit more on your fellow man, on your surroundings, and a little less on yourself. Live for your family and your country, live for the future. And don’t stop to think of that future, as we make it together. What it will be like, we all decide together through the life we live. Through the actions we take, as much as through the actions we do not. When my daughter and my unborn child take their children to the countryside thirty years from now, what kind of a world will greet them? Will they hear the singing of birds, the laughter of children, butterflies and colourful leaves as far as the eye can reach? Will they see the traditional clothing of Oshenna’s proud people, hear Bredish being spoken, witness the marvellous sight of an early midsummer sunrise? It depends. It depends, on how you and me live our lives, on the choices we make.

I strongly believe it is our responsibility to think of these things, my dear countrymen, my dear fellow Lovians. Brothers and sisters we have seen so much being destroyed in the past years. Let us never destroy our heritage, forget our culture and values. Let us never forget what makes Lovia, Lovia. It is you, who made Lovia the beautiful nation it is today. And it is on our shoulders, the heavy task to see to it that Lovia stays the way it is: a nation green, a nation free, a nation for us all to enjoy. It is not fast cars and fancy mobile phones that ought to make us happy, it is the little things we so oft overlook. Let us sit back and think of those little things that make live enjoyable. And how to ensure they will be around for many generations to come.

May God bless you all, and may He bless Lovia, for truly she is a shining light for all nations to behold and the most beautiful of all the worlds nations!

Yours truly,

:King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 14:56, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

Sebastian, I need to ask you some questions for the television appearance you said you would do! When can I ask the questions? Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 15:48, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

Nicely written :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 03:09, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

The Hugo Mendes Show- Special Edition
Last night on The Hugo Mendes Show, Hugo met with King Sebastian. Sebastian and Hugo discussed everything from fashion to state councils and everything in between, as well as dropping a shocking bombshell about his relationship with former King Dimitri. Sebastian also took several questions from the public, in what was his first appearance on national television.

The show was taped in front of a live audience in Noble City, which included politician Justin Abrahams.

Broadcast on Saturday 1st September at 9pm on Kaboom 1

Mr. Mendes- Good evening Noble City, and welcome to The Hugo Mendes Show! Oh, and what a show we have in store for you tonight, as we meet with none other than King Sebastian himself! So, without further ado, may I present His Majesty King Sebastian!

(Sebastian enters to a musical accompaniment by the band)

Sebastian- Hello Mr. Mendes! How are you doing today?

Mr. Mendes- Very well thank you! How are you?

Sebastian- Excellent! My wife and I are expecting our second child in a few months and I just gave another speech. Also, being a King is an excellent job and I am greatly enjoying it. You wanted to ask me some questions, I understand?

Mr. Mendes- I most certainly do! Congratulations to you and your wife, by the way, you must be thrilled!

Sebastian- Why thank you! Ask ahead, my good man, I'm all ears!

Mr. Mendes- I understand you had a somewhat difficult childhood, with your father being killed in a tragic accident and your mother suffering from depression. What was your childhood like?

Sebastian- My childhood was indeed a bit difficult, though my mother did an excellent job raising me. In my father's absence, I came to regard my great-uncle Arthur as a bit of a father figure. He took me under his wing and showed me the ropes of how to be a king, so to speak. I believe he even initially intended me to be his heir, rather then Dimitri. His stories and experiences have been instrumental in forming my idea on what a King should be like, and I regard him as an example still. You can say my childhood was, for the most part, happy.

Mr. Mendes- Very interesting! And do you have a good relationship with Dimitri now, despite what has happened between you?

Sebastian- My cousin and I never got along very well. We were once rather close as we all visited the old King Arthur often, but there was always a bit of rivalry between the two of us. Our personalities are very different, we have a different set or morals and viewpoints and often clashed. In later years we have grown closer and marriage mellowed him down, but I never forgave him for his attitude in the Civil War where he cowardly hid as I fought for my country.

Mr. Mendes- It's good to hear your side of the story, Sebastian! Now for some questions about your daughter, Alice

Sebastian- Most certainly!

Mr. Mendes- In many royal households, much of the parenting is left to an army of nannies and governesses. Is this something that goes on in your household, or are you and your wife very hands on parents?

Sebastian- I try to be a hands on parent, yes, but to my shame I have to admit my wife is more involved in raising her then I am. We do have housekeepers to do our household chores though, and I rarely changed a diaper. I'm furthermore unable to cook without burning down the house, but I often read my daughter stories at night, and stimulate her natural curiosity. Fatherhood is the greatest joy of my life and we intend to raise a large family.

Mr. Mendes- Certainly! As I have a daughter of my own, I agree with that! Alice is approaching school age, do you plan to educate her in the palace or will you be sending her to a mainstream school?

Sebastian- I believe it to be of vital importance to send her into a mainstream school no matter what. To raise a child too sheltered has a negative influence on her development in social aspects, I fear. We are undecided on the school, however I have a firm trust in the Lovian educational system.

Mr. Mendes- Yes, I've heard there are some good schools in your area of Noble City! Now, may I ask some more serious questions?

Sebastian- You may! I'm all ears!

Mr. Mendes- You've said many times that you will be a more active King than Prince Dimitri was? So, my question to you, how will you go about engaging with the "modern Lovian"?

Sebastian- The modern Lovian will not be much of a problem for me, as I am myself a fine example of the modern Lovian. I was born in the late 1980s and I am as modern as they come. I believe it to be important to take the people seriously and talk to them plainly, and eye to eye. In my latest speech you may have noticed I appeal to the people's natural sense of responsibility. This I believe to be of vital importance.

Mr. Mendes- Of course!

Sebastian- Citizens, in my view, wish to be taken seriously. Under Dimitri they were not listened to, their questions went unanswered. I wish to make myself more available. I live to serve, and see myself as a public servant

Mr. Mendes- And will you be holding frequent meetings with Prime Minister Ilava and other senior members of government?

Sebastian- I am a close friend of Mr. Ilava and a firm supporter of his Oceana cause. I believe in the preservation of traditional languages, customs and traditions and have often worked towards protecting these values. Therefore me and Ilava get along famously. I am also close to the Baron of Donia and to that splendid Japanese fellow of the Green Party whose name escapes me. With these people I get along well. Every Sunday after church, I have a habit of sharing a cold beer with the Prime Minister either at his family place or at mine. There we talk of state affairs as well as our family lives. He gives me advice sometimes as he is a father to seven children.

Mr. Mendes- It's great to see that you and Mr Ilava share a personal connection as well as a professional one! One of the issues most important to the Lovian electorate is devolution, and many politicians from across the spectrum have supported the formation of state councils. Where do you stand on this issue?

Sebastian- I believe it is very important to allow states their own freedom of choice in several important matters. To relay responsibility down to state level and grant states such freedom I think is something we should consider. State councils would be, in my mind, a good first step towards more stately autonomy. Especially in Oceana this is of great importance.

Mr. Mendes- It's very good that you have a strong love for the people and culture of Oceana, but do you find that this often stops you from relating with Lovians from other states?

Sebastian- It does not, as I was born and raised in the state of Sylvania myself. Therefore my loyalty lies with Sylvania just as much as it does with Oceana and any other state for that matter. For example, I speak several local dialects and languages of other states including Bredish.

Mr. Mendes- Do you have anything to say in Bredish for our Clymeni viewers?

Sebastian- I'd tell them to remember: "Alle man sin boaren vry an elyk in digniti-aguz-rexts", they'll know what it means!

Mr. Mendes- Very good Your Majesty! I myself cannot speak Bredish, but I admire your willingness to learn

Sebastian- It means we are all equal, and brothers and sisters! I believe we should all live in such a spirit of brotherhood, as Lovians.

Mr. Mendes- Now for a question regarding gay rights, another issue that is important to many voters!

Sebastian- Most certainly! Ask me!

Mr. Mendes- One of your close friends, Ygo August Donia, has been known for making homophobic remarks on occasion. Where do you stand on gay rights, and do you believe that as King it is your duty to encourage equality and tolerance?

Sebastian- I am actually a big supporter of the rights of gay people to be who they wish to be, and believe this to be a vital right of all Lovians. I do however also defend the right of religious people or conservatives to hold different ideas. Ilava and Donia, as Christians, may feel differently about homosexuality then I do. But as long as we all treat each other with dignity and respect, in spite of our individual differences, I believe we can all get along in this nation without much trouble.

Mr. Mendes- So you would say that you can relate to people both for and against gay rights?

Sebastian- I could, yes. In as much that, I myself may support gay rights but I will support the right of those against it to continue to voice their opinion whenever they please, as long as they do so in a respectful manner.

Mr. Mendes- So! Now that we've got all the serious political stuff out the way, it's time for my favourite segment of the show!

Sebastian- Sounds fun!

Mr. Mendes- Thanks to the rise of social media, hundreds of Lovians have tweeted us questions that they wish for me to ask you, and I will now ask you the three best questions

Sebastian- Shoot, Lovia! Give me your best!

Mr. Mendes- Now, this question comes from Annabel from Sofasi, Clymene- Does His Majesty have a royal stylist, or do you choose your clothes yourself?

Sebastian- My cousin Alexander is a very stylish young man and he helps me pick out clothes sometimes. Other then that, you can pretty much say my wife's my personal sylist. She is one helluva classy woman, Annabel! If you ever need a fashion tip, just give our Queen a call.

Mr. Mendes- Well I agree with you there!

Sebastian- Good to hear Hugo!

Mr. Mendes- Our second question is coming from Louis from Charleston, Sylvania- Do you like the Royal Palace as it is, or will you be undertaking some home improvement projects?

Sebastian- I like the Royal Palace the way it is now, Louis! But as I believe in modest living, the wife and I consider opening a part of the Palace to the public. We believe the Royal Palace is, in a way, public property and should be open to all Lovians. Tourists might be interested in seeing the old study room of my great-uncle for example, or his old hunting trophies from Africa. The palace is in marvelous shape and you yourself will be more then welcome to drop by in some months, Louis!

Mr. Mendes- Well, I know I can speak for many Lovians when I say that the palace would make a great tourist attraction!

Sebastian- I thought so too, and what's mine is yours my friends!

Mr. Mendes- Unfortunately, it is now time for our final question from the public.

Sebastian- Oh, how sad Well, let me hear it! Time flies when having fun, Hugo!

Mr. Mendes- This question is coming from Claire in Beaverwick, Kings- So Sebastian, will you be undertaking any royal trips abroad to promote the culture of Lovia?

Sebastian- That's a marvelous queston Claire! And yes, I will. In the spirit of the great Arthur III, I will travel the world and promote Lovian culture. My brother Joseph and cousin Alexander already frequently do so, albeit it with mixed results on wild Alex' part. I myself love spending time in Brunant and am a good friend of their royals. My sister is engaged to be married to their prince Karl, and will wed later this year. I will soon go there again.

Mr. Mendes- Well, congratulations to her then! Now, unfortunately it is time to say goodbye to Sebastian, dearest viewers. But first, to play us out- The Hugo Mendes Band!

(The band plays theme tune)

Sebastian- Goodbye, Hugo, goodbye dear viewers! You were wonderful!

(Sebastian watches band and claps enthusiastically, end credits begin to roll)

This show was brought to you by Kaboom TV, come back next week for our next episode featuring even more laughs, music and chat

Comments
So guys, the first edition of my new show and Sebastian's first television interview! Feel free to comment below any thoughts you have on the show. You can also tell me if there are any other Lovian personalities you would like to see on future episodes :D Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 17:34, September 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * This has been one fine interview, Frijoles! You really have a talent for this. Did you come up with the questions as you went, or did you prepare some up front? It's been an interesting conversation and the audience now knows their King a lot better then before. I even believe even that, dare I say, it, Lovia already knows me better now in one week then it's known my predecessor in five years. King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 18:05, September 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you! I really enjoyed interviewing you! I actually wrote some of the questions on my computer this morning, but I added a couple more that were relavent to the answers you gave me Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 18:12, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

Archive
After I had to scroll for what seemed like ages just to get to the bottom of the Pub, it has become apparent we need it to be archived :P Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 18:01, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

I was gonna agree though xD yes an admin plz archive. Marcus/Michael Villanova 19:43, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

Gedaon. --Semyon 20:53, September 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * @Frijoles: They've got "end" on your keyboard for that purpose :P
 * @Semyon: :o You speaking Limburgish? :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 03:11, September 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * To be absolutely accurate, I'm writing it, not speaking it. I wouldn't dare attempt the latter. But yes, I was wondering if you'd notice. :P --Semyon 09:08, September 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * That was Brabantish (or whatever that's called in English), not Limburgish! :o 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 13:31, September 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Brabantic*. I usually check all useless edits :o @4kant: depends on the pronunciation, I guess. As semyon said he did not pronounce it, it could be either :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:36, September 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * I recall Oos saying it once so I assumed it was Limburgish. @pronunciation: I sort of thought of it in my head as /gədaʊn/ but it's likely not. :P --Semyon 20:26, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * No, it's not :P In Montfortian Limburgish it's /(ɣ)ə'd̺ɒ́:n̺/ (much like: ghə-DAWN). Brabantian does not have tones, "ao" is less rounded, and I believe it does not pronounce d's the British way, so: /ɣ'dɒ̜̀:n/? :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 07:21, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Anyway, isn't it spelt "gedoan" in Broabants? :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:01, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Eh, I'm not that good at spelling Babantic to be honest :P They've never taught me :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 13:50, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * That's either cuz it's not a language, or cuz they are ashamed of it themselves :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:26, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * @Language: it should be the standarddijålekt :o
 * @Ashamed: they should be ashamed of being ashamed of that :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 16:25, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah, I'd forgotten g is a fricative in Dutch. It would have been a reasonable assumption that it was in Limburgish too. :P --Semyon 17:53, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * @Language: I like that you call it a dialect yourself :P
 * @Ashamed: :o
 * @Semyon: Yeah, in Limburgish it's often a stop though :P F.e. Dutch "zeggen" /zɛʁə/ vs. Limburgish "zègke" /zége/; and in some dialects it's usually either a stop /gə'd̺ɒ́:n̺/ or a palatal approximant /jə'd̺ɔ̀ŋ/. We're difficult :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:28, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * @Language: wouldn't you agree if I'd say that Limburgish should be the standarddijålekt? :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 18:31, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Don't patronize me :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:37, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Wikination book
Here's a proposed page template for the book, would be the first for each country. No facts anymore, but we still need little blurbs and pics if the book is going to succeed. HORTON11 : •  14:11, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Looking good :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:21, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Obviously you can't write a book on Lovia without dedicating a page to the United Wikination's handsomest monarch to date. King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 15:03, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * You mean the Heretow? :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:07, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * No, he means the king of a wikination I haven't founded yet and probably won't found either :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 15:18, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * General Qyto Kanto, mayhaps? :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:19, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Probably :o Though his title isn't king, and I've already founded Tagog :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 15:26, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * He can see into the future, cause the best-looking monarch will be Bernd Donia's wife, soon to be Queen. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 15:35, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah, the Brunanter Queen... come to think of Queens and Donia's, maybe Sebastian ought to mary a Donia girl to somewhere in the near future. That'd be fun.
 * Also, you guys, I am very dissapointed. King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 16:04, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Is it the Baron of Donia? :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:25, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * King Sebastian I? :o 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 16:26, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hear, hear! Finally, 4kant,6, someone with common sense! Although of course the Baron of Donia was an excellent suggestion as well! King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 17:53, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

@Sebastian: So when are you going to tell me about that idea you had? Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 17:55, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * @Sebastian & Frijoles: chat? --Semyon 17:57, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * @Semyon: Sure :) Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 17:58, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Coming soon..... a very special edition of the Hugo Mendes Show
Coming soon on the Hugo Mendes Show 

Join Hugo this Friday for a special edition of the Hugo Mendes Show! Mr. Mendes will chat to Prince Dimitri as he finally has his voice heard about the turbulent events regarding Lovia's monarchy, as well as his plans for the future and family. Don't miss it!

And remember.... Hugo won't be playing favourites between Dimitri and Sebastian!

Brought to you by Kaboom TV

- Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 20:27, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll stay tuned :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 20:32, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * Excellent! We look forward to your comments :) Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 20:33, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
 * I cannot wait to see what my cousin Dimitri has to say for himself! Very curious. King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 20:38, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

At what time will this be taking place? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:50, September 5, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Frijoles, do you think you could make a similar show in Brunant for BBN? We have no talk shows there yet and it would fit in nicely, I think. HORTON11 : •  16:27, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Of course! Could BBN also air two Lovian shows that I've just made? Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 17:15, September 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * You are going places man! Getting famous over here :P How late's this new thing going to air? Cannot wait. King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 17:31, September 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure. If they're in English they can air on BBN 2 or 3, depending on the program. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 19:19, September 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * @Horton: Yes, both in English. The shows are a crime drama and a comedy Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 20:01, September 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well the crime drama could go on BBN 3 and the comedy on 2. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:40, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

@Sebastian & TimeMaster: Cheers! It'll be going up at about 8pm UK time Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 17:51, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

BBN
I've been working on the BBN page in Brunant (for those who don't know it's the public TV\radio broadcaster) and that got me thinking, maybe we should make one in Lovia. Lovian media needs to be promoted and revitalized, and having a service like the BBC or RTE could help that. HORTON11 : •  16:24, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Great idea! Maybe we could also have a radio network similar to BBN or BBC radio Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 17:16, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Well, to date, Oceana Broadcasting System's been the most successful non-newspaper media, so we really need this! :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:39, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

We've also got Kaboom TV, People's Channel, ZAM TV and Lovian Television Company Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 17:44, September 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * We also have Alphabet TV, but none are really active (ex. kaboom) and there is really no new Lovian programs. On BBN we have shows from Cold War dramas to comedy and police shows, and all recent. That's something we should work on. If we could replicate OBS on a national level, it might be a good solution. We can also replicate BBN in regards to the multi-lingual channels, for example having an English and Oceana or English and Multilingual (like BBN 2). HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 19:23, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

I've been working on a few new shows with Kaboom Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 20:00, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Personally the success with Kaboom's revival shows that we don't need a government tv broadcaster. Frijoles independent push has really shown that we have the good broadcasters but what we really need is (as Horton said) for Lovian media to be promoted. Instead of throwing loads of money into changing things on a purely structural basis, we should make concerted efforts to ensure that it is easy to access Lovian media sources on the site. A link on the sidebar to a page linking to Lovian media outlets may be just the thing. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 20:12, September 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well I could use that same argument for the opposite. Just because there's only one active broadcaster, we should start one to actually help boost our contemporary TV and radio. There's no reason whay we can't have both private and a public broadcaster. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:39, September 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * Your argument is completely wrong, costs is a very good reason. There's no point in having a public broadcaster when we have a rebooting broadcasting sector. Government is largely about fixing problems and making provisions to make life better, its primary reason is not spending money. The problem here is that there is not enough exposure. Adding a way, such as a page that linked to all Lovian media, to easily access Lovian media would greatly increase activity in the entire sector. Your suggestion of having a new broadcaster (that will yet have to be provided for by yet another user) will end like most of the other public initiatives by government into economic sectors, in inactivity. That is something we should avoid by allowing a fluid sector and providing assistance in the form of government assisted exposure. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 14:50, September 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * A Lovian media page would be good, agreed. But if nobody is sprucing up the current broadcaster pages and adding shows, I don't really see that changing. And one interesting thing, when BBN was started, we have several users contributing to the programming, organization etc and there was lots of interest. I wouldn't mind the government supporting the private broadcaster, but as long as the people have an interest in the organization. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:58, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

I agree! Perhaps we should have a "Lovian media page" with links to TV stations and newspapers. As you said we could have links on sidebars of pages. Well done on your work in the media with the Lovian Times by the way. My Lovian newspaper of choice! Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 06:32, September 7, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! I think that's a great idea and should I have time I might start drafting such a page very soon. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 14:50, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

A quick out of character disclaimer
Just thought I should provide this disclaimer before we get started. The questions in this interview were NOT answered by DimiTalen, but another user instead. As an interviewer, I have done everything I can to ensure this interview is fair towards Dimitri, and I have given him equal treatment with Sebastian.

The opinions presented here don't nescesarily represent my views on this whole monarchy thing, it's just a bit of fun!

They also do not represent the views of DimiTalen, unless by coincidence.

I am also not trying to do anything negative to DimiTalen, or Dimitri. He is a good man without whom I would not be talking to any of you.

I greatly respect Dimitri (both the user and the character!) as he is a good guy and was the one who founded this wiki, just as I respect Sebastian.

Now for the interview!!!

- Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 19:42, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

The interview itself
Brought to you by Kaboom TV

The show was taped on Thursday 5th September in Noble City, and was broadcast on Friday 6th September at 9pm on Kaboom 1

Mr. Mendes- Good evening Noble City! This is Hugo Mendes, and I'd like to welcome you to tonight's show. I'll be chatting to Prince Dimitri, as he shares his side of the story regarding the recent events within the royal family. So without further ado, may I represent Prince Dimitri.

(Dimitri enters the stage to a musical accompaniment by the band)

Mr. Mendes- Good evening Dimitri! How are you?

Dimitri- I have had better days, Hugo. Sleepless night this situation has given me.

(Dimitri touches his forehead)

Mr. Mendes- So now that you have left the Royal Palace, where do you live?

Dimitri- I live with my wife's brother and his boyfriend. It is not an ideal situation... we have little space to ourselves and no privacy. My brother Alexander offered me to crash at his place but I refused, I want to stay clear of his wild partying ways. I have surprisingly little options. Friends I used to hold dear to me abandoned me. Now I am no longer King I feel how lonely I have been all these years. Now it is just me and my wife. But we get by.

(An audience member interrupts, shouting "WE WANT DIMITRI BACK!")

(The audience member is promptly removed by security personnel)

Mr. Mendes- Sorry about that folks! Let us continue proceedings!

Dimitri (To audience member)- Oh my dear fool! You speaks these words so lightly!

Mr. Mendes- Anyway, Dimitri

Dimitri- Yes, let us

Mr. Mendes- Do you get on well with Alexander and his boyfriend?

Dimitri- Alexander does not have a boyfriend Hugo! My wife's brother does. My own brother's a lady's man through and through.

Mr. Mendes- Apologies, I misunderstood

Dimitri- He is a man of loose contacts, married to his bottle and guitar so I do not see much of the boy. No offense taken, I could have expressed myself better.

Mr. Mendes- Now for the big question, the one that we, the Lovian public want you to answer

Dimitri- I am prepared to answer every question I need to make the truth be known.

Mr. Mendes- You may have seen my interview last week with Sebastian. What were your first impressions?

Dimitri- That he is a liar! And that he does not understand the gravity of his lies, nor their impact. He blabbers on and on, he speaks much but thinks little. He's always wanted to be King just for the prestige of it. He knows nothing of sacrifice. I gave my entire life and youth for this nation. And just because he killed people in an absurd war, he feels he is more of a man then me? He has belittled me ever since I was a boy... and even after I give him what he wants most, he belittles me.

Mr. Mendes- And how would you defend the stance you took during the devastating Civil War?

Dimitri- All he did there was smirk, smile, laugh at his own amazingness and rub more salt in the wound he himself gave me with a smile as wide as Peace Island! I can defend it by saying I did what was best for my nation. What use is a dead or wounded king? And I have no military experience. I abhor weapons and hunting, and the sight of blood disgusts and startles me. Am I less a man for it, just because my nature is softer then his?

Mr. Mendes- That certainly doesn't make you any less of a man, Dimitri! You may have also heard in our nation's press about how Sebastian describes his relationship with you. How do you react to that?

Dimitri- He was right, in a way. We never liked each other. But when he said Arthur liked him best, he was lying. That was never the case. Arthur was a scholar, as am I. He was an intellectual. Sure he had his fair share of adventures but he was a scholar first and foremost, not a soldier. When I saw him tell these lies with a straight face I had a hard time controlling myself. I felt the strong urge to change channels to not have to see this slander, but my wife convinced me to stay tuned and record it. I am now grateful for that.

Mr. Mendes- A good answer! And a good metaphor! On my show we like a man who can use a good metaphor. And now I will follow by using a metaphor of my own in our next question. The fracture that you and Sebastian created in Lovia’s royal family, do you plan to let it heal or make the metaphorical fracture even wider?

Dimitri- I had intended to not dignify his lies with a response, but I find myself unable to let it slide. I have let too much slide over the course of these years. This man is a shame to the family. Now he has plotted against me, schemed against me, and set up my own relatives against me. My own flesh and blood! I can never let this heal... the wounds go too deep. He has insulted my pride, ruined my life. Sebastian has struck my heart with a icecold blade. Hacking away at my reputation, step by step. I believe him to have orchestrated the October coup too, behind the scenes. He is very close with the Donia Clan after all.

Mr. Mendes- And what is your view of the Donia Clan?

Dimitri- They are treacherous rats, all of them! They have no morals, they have no compassion, no honour. They are not true Lovians. Communists in name only, capitalists in everything else. Fake Christians masquerading behind a carefully cultivated image of piousness. Fake as plastic, and when they burn they smell just as bad. They are worth less then the dirt under a true Noble's shoes.

Mr. Mendes- Having seen a Donia infriltrate the Brunanter royal family, do you fear the same will happen to the Lovian royal family?

Dimitri- I sometimes did, yes. I was afraid for a while Dalia Muhammed, the widow of the previous Baron and the mother of Ygo, would make her daughter seduce Sebastian or one of the Bradly-Lashawns and use them as her pawns. They also did the same with Donia's former rival Pierlot McCrooke you see. Then it came to my ears, Dalia Donia's expecting her third child. So she unlikely to wiggle her way into our family now. And even Sebastian won't sink low enough to leave his pregnant wife for her. When McCrooke did that, it cost him dearly in the public opinion. Sebastian is too smart to make such a mistake. The Bradly-Lashawns and the Donia's are... dangerously close however. I watch their every move carefully, I have my people on their backs. But there is little I can do. They are too close for my taste. You may call me paranoid but these are real threats to Lovia I speak of. One day people will see I am right. I hope it won't be too late.

Mr. Mendes- What do you think the future has in store for Lovia? And how is the Lovia of today different from the one you inherited six years ago?

Dimitri- The future is grim, very grim. There's a dim light shining through the vast darkness surrounding us. A small, dim light at best to enlighten us. Lovia as I see it is corrupt. It has been morally corrupted. Education is not what it used to be, The religious have gotten too much freedom, their numbers have grown and the numbers of atheist have shrunk. That is the main difference between the Lovia I once inherited... the Lovia I was born in was a Lovia dominated by atheism and freethinking. The CCPL, the Donia's, Ilava and the rise of conservatism and fascism have not gone unnoticed. The nation I fell in love with changed forever. I do not recognize it anymore. The events of the last few years have made me a bitter and cynical man. Maybe I should not have children, to prevent them the pain I have to endure every day of living in these cursed lands.

(Dimitri touches his forehead with his palms in a dramatic gesture, looks straight into the camera)

Dimitri- A cursed land, I tell you! And here I walk a lonely and cursed man. I foresee dark times coming for us. Now for the first time ever, I fully understand how my dear uncle Lucas must have felt.

Mr. Mendes- As a freethough athiest, your ideology clashes with that of the Prime Minister. How did you and Mr Ilava work together in your final days as King, and how did you overcome your differences?

Dimitri- We didn't. I simply never spoke to that man. He is a nice enough guy but I lost all interest in politics. They made it impossible for me. They, the cabal theorists, McCrooke, Donia, La Blaca, Koshkov... the war, the war! How could I be in politics? I could do nothing! They made it impossible. They did it. The cabal theorists. Their slander...

(Dimitri turns red and becomes upset, before quickly regaining himself)

Dimitri- You may think I am crazy. Maybe I am. I was too young, Hugo, I was just too young to be King. Arthur was wrong. They were all wrong. It should not have been me, nor Sebastian. It should have been Philip. I was too young... I cannot do this. I'm an emotional wreck now. You cannot make a boy King, at such an age. I should have played, I should have laughed, I should have been a child, a student. But they never let me. Yes... yes that is a good idea. They took my childhood from me Hugo! They took everything from me.

'Mr. Mendes- You have time Dimitri, you have a long life ahead of you!

(Hugo turns to audience)

Mr. Mendes- Okay, we'll go to commercial now!

(The commercial break begins, as Hugo begins to comfort Dimitri)

(The commercial break ends)

Mr. Mendes- Welcome back to the Hugo Mendes Show! Tonight we're talking to Prince Dimitri, as he tells his side of the story. Dimitri, why don't you and your wife take a nice long holiday! You deserve a rest

Dimitri- I need a vacation, yes. Far away. From this cursed land.

Mr. Mendes- See the world! Live while you're young! Enjoy the freedom!

Dimitri- I will try. There's a time for everything. I need my time. I have some unresolved issues. For now I will stick around Lovia. These following days and weeks may become very interesting. Thank you for your concern. I hope I answered your questions well.

Mr. Mendes- Unfortunately it is now time for the final segment of our show!

Dimitri- Sure! I'm ready for it

Mr. Mendes- Dimitri, are you prepared to take some questions from the Lovian public?

Dimitri- Yes, I am.

Mr. Mendes- Our first question comes from Jane in Kinley, Seven- What do you plan to make of your life now Dimitri? Is there a career path you would like to follow?

Dimitri- I want to focus on my studies, reading, writing. Me and my wife wish to be left to ourselves, and we consider traveling the world. We have always been fascinated by South America. A nice retreat on the Copacabana perhaps. We need our rest after all this. Thank you for your question Jane!

Mr. Mendes- Ah, I've always been fascinated by that continent myself! Perhaps you could take Spanish lessons? Now, our final question....

Dimitri- I already took some, senor! Marvelous idea. Certainly, ask me.

(Dimitri pronounces "senor" wrong)

Mr. Mendes- Now time for a question from Dan, in Hurbanova, Oceana- Do you feel that you will ever forgive Sebastian?

Dimitri- In this answer I can short: no. The wounds are too deep, the damage cannot be undone. What's done is done.

Mr. Mendes- And now, dear viewers, dear Dimitri, it is time to bid farewell until next time.... But before we go, the Hugo Mendes Band will play a song of Dimitri's choosing!!! Dimitri- The Ode to Joy always soothes my spirit whenever I am down...

Mr. Mendes- Excellent! Ode to Joy it is then...

(Hugo turns to the audience)

Mr. Mendes- Good night Lovia! This has been Hugo Mendes and goodbye for now!

(End credits roll, as Dimitri and Hugo clap the band)

Comments
Sorry that I clogged up the whole Pub with this, feel free to provide any feedback, comments or thoughts. It's all very welcome indeed :D Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 19:42, September 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * This is great and I really think that this is a route forwards for Lovian television, well done. Expect Newspaper responses soon. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 20:13, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

This doesn't sound like DimiTalen at all. Was this discussion on the chat, or just made up? Which user were you chatting with? Why did you do it at an inconvenient time for USA users (12-3pm on a weekday)? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:10, September 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Tbf he said in the disclaimer it wasn't Dimitri. I watched bits of it, but it didn't have a live audience apart from me. I believe the intention was to make it when there weren't other users around to interrupt. --Semyon 20:22, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

@Kunarian: Thank you very much, I appreciate your feedback :D

@TimeMaster: As Semyon and my disclaimer (which I did write for a reason!) said is that this wasn't DimiTalen answering the questions. The questions were answered by another user, who has requested that their name not be disclosed. Regarding the timings, I live in London so if I was to conduct the interview at a time convenient for American viewers, I would probably find myself doing this in the middle of night. Additionally most users (Kunarian, Semyon, Horton, Wabba, Happy, Oos, TMV and many more) live in Europe so it is convenient for them :P Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 20:29, September 6, 2013 (UTC)

Since this isn't DimiTalen, I don't recognize this as a valid interview with Dimitri. The fact that they did not want their name to be disclosed is silly and only makes this extremely suspicious. Anyway, I just realized that I'm basically the only active US user left (maybe topaz and viva... but I'm not even sure they live here). :O —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 12:36, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

Topaz doesn't live in the US. You forgot Marcus though, he's still active. --Semyon 12:39, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I realise that it was an inconvenient time for you & Marcus, but I would have been up at like 2am if I had to do this at a time convenient for users in the USA. You can still read it later on though :) Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 13:50, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

I was thinking more like 5pm or 6pm here (east coast), which is 10pm or 11pm in the UK. But I was gone the whole evening, so it ended up not mattering. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:16, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

Also, I don't consider Marcus to be active. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:16, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

You consider Viva to be active but not Marcus? :O Anyway, Marcus edited yesterday, and the day before and the day before that, and he's made well over a hundred edits in the last month, so imo you're talking nonsense. :P --Semyon 14:21, September 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't consider Viva active, actually, I just saw one of his edits recently. Anyway, Marcus didn't edit yesterday, only the day before that. :P —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:40, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

@TimeMaster: Well, I suppose I could do it at that time, I thought you wanted it at 9pm East coast time. Also, how isn't Marcus active? Yes, he's been away for a few days, but everyone takes a wikibreak now and then due to other commitments Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 14:30, September 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * He's not taking a Wikibreak, it's been a gradual decrease in activity... about since you joined, actually. :O —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:40, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

It looks like Marcus is back now, so this is no longer important. x) —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:43, September 7, 2013 (UTC)


 * @TimeMaster: with Dimitri dethroned and retired from the wiki, this is official an interview as you'll ever get from him. And it does, in many ways, indeed reflect his views quite accurately as he himself would attest.


 * @Frijoles: Wonderful interview, well done! This is the type of intrigue and scandal this nation needs. The type of interview that can write history. From what I read here, I am certain it has. Pretty interesting developments. I wonder if we can expect some sort of... follow-up to this? Seems like there's some clashes within our royal family.


 * King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 22:33, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

French wikination
I'm thinking of reviving or starting a French wikination and was wondering, would anyone be interested? HORTON11 : •  16:32, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I hugely detest French :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:37, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well I don't like it very much, but I'm good at it. Plus I have a map already. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 16:39, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, Horton, we could go to the French wikination. We could write in French, make fancy maps, eat croissants and watch Brigitte Bardot films. I can be your Carla Bruni, you'll be Jacques Clouseau. Or... we just stay in Lovia and make the best of our time here. Activity's up, elections are coming and we finally have a proper monarchy again. We're going places, we're making this awesome country even awesomer by the day. Why sacrifice even a single minute of your time on a project you know just as well as I do will fail within a month (if you're lucky, that is) instead of spending it here in Lovia, where the magic happens? Think about it. Your King's spoken. God bless Lovia!
 * King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 16:50, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * @Horton: Oui! Bien sur je voudrais contribuer! Je parle bien le français :D Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 16:55, September 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * @Oos: You've said this a few times before, so I'm gonna ask you, why do you hate the French Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 16:55, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * @Frijoles- no problem. Here's our nk: http://ville.wikia.com/wiki/Cettatie
 * @King- I know, but then again, I have lots of ideas that wouldn't work in Lovia. Sadly we're lacking in mediterranean sun and culture. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 16:58, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

So is that why you created Brunant? Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 16:59, September 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes. If Lovia had been a European nation with good history, Brunant would not have existed. And with the French site I do want to work out a few things like, fashion, culture, a bit of football and cuisine. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:09, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

@Frijoles: I can give multiple reasons: 1. The spelling is uselessly complicated; 2. Everybody pretends to love the "sound" of French, while it's nothing more than a few ugly nasal sounds and uvular fricatives (which in all other languages are called "vomiting" sounds :P); 3. French people are overly proud of their language, to such degree that beautiful regional languages, even outside of Europe, are suppressed to extinction; and lots of other reasons. Understand my point now? :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:01, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * If this was facebook, I would like the above comment, then unlike it so I could like it again. --Semyon 17:05, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll consider posting it on facebook in that case :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:06, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Please do. Number 3 is the most relevant, though the spelling and especially the little accents are extremely annoying. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:09, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

@Oos: I see what you're getting at! Every country should recognise their regional languages Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 17:57, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Indeed :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:06, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Of course you agree with that, Oos :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 18:34, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * You too, remember Finland? :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:37, September 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yep, of course I do :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 13:52, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

The Spanish (Santa Cruz) and Italian (Ilenuando or something, right?) wikinations could use reviving too. :P 77topaz (talk) 09:03, September 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Is there a Spanish wiki? :P Ilenulando*, I created that one :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:05, September 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yep, caribe.wikia.com. Granero created it, I believe. It's probably in 4kant's list. You speak fluent Italian? :P 77topaz (talk) 09:18, September 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * No, I have been able to contribute to it on a good-enough level, but my knowledge of Italian has dropped to an all-time low :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:20, September 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * How good's your knowledge of Spanish? :P 77topaz (talk) 09:23, September 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * Elementary :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:24, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

Well I do plan (or at least hope) to revive the French one and make it of good quality. I've already started work on the royal family and will get to starting culture. HORTON11 : •  13:01, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

What does Lovia think?
My fellow countrymen... shower me with your wisdom.
 * King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 17:08, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Nostalgia
I do not know nostalgic you guys are, but I myself am sometimes prone to nostalgia. Reality-wise, would any of you believe it if I found a way to revive one of our nation's great figures from the good ol' days? Perhaps, even find a way to get back to the Pierius account. in a way, back in the day, to somehow revive him. King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 09:46, September 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * :o You got a nostalgic friend :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:51, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

Poll
Again, I might be making a successor to good ol' Positive Lovia. In a nutshell, the new party will advocate pragmatic libertarianism, and naturally will be opposed to statism, socialism and corporatocracy. Think fast! Which name would better-suit a PL successor? Libertarian Group Libertarian Party (of Lovia) Progressive Libertarian Party Centrist Libertarian Party Liberal Party (of Lovia) Civilist Party (of Lovia) Other (make suggestions in comments) — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 01:01, September 14, 2013 (UTC)

I voted other, mainly because I like the current name more than the other names. "Positive Lovia" is a very noticeable name, really standing out from the other names which usually take the "(-ism) (-ism) Party" rhythm. Also, as I said before, Lovians tend to rename stuff way too often, that's why I keep CCPL, even though we are "too leftist" for American understandings of conservative. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 06:57, September 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * Free Lovia Party, or is that too aggressive? Free soil, free speech, free labor and free men. (So that is 'other', once again not being able to register my vote)  08:17, September 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree with Oos. --Semyon 11:56, September 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * I also agree with Oos. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 18:33, September 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * Positive Lovia always did have a nice ring to it, problem is that I don't know how much it gets the point across. I enjoy any excuse for not having "party" in the title, yet the word "positive" seems uncharacteristically idealist. Progressive Libertarian had some appeal to me because I could still call it the PL, and it would be a very clear successor to the original, just with a more professional flavor to it. Libertarian Party is very straight to the point, and Civilist Party would be original, problem is its a little odd to say ("We're the Civilist Party!"), not to mention its a term I conjured up a couple days ago (and almost screams weird third option on any ballot). Free Lovia Party, would definitely get the point across, it just seems a tad generic. I could go with any of the suggestions at this point, maybe even keep PL, I just need a little more deciding time. Thanks for the input! :) — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 20:28, September 14, 2013 (UTC)

A kingly tale


There once was a shepherd who was too lazy to work. He would always get drunk and sleep under the old oak tree, and hardly ever watched his herd. One day he woke up and he noticed his sheep were all gone. So the shepherd went looking for his sheep. Everywhere he looked. In his house, in his brother’s backyard. In his girlfriend’s closet. At the cinema.

No matter where looked he could not find his herd back. So one day he went to pray. He asked: “Please, dear God, give me back my sheep”. But he did not get back his sheep. The shepherd went back to his tree and brought with him a six-pack. Much to his considerable dismay, upon finishing the beverage he was still a sheepless man.

So the shepherd started looking for his sheep again, in the middle of the night, because he was persistent. He yelled: “Sheep! Sheep!” and then he tripped over something woolly. As he fell to the ground, he heard a familiar and rather distinctive “beh” sound. “What the devil...” he mumbled, getting up. So he took five steps backwards, and heard the same noise again. When the shepherd opened his cell phone, which had a light-function, he saw that he was standing in the middle of a field of sheep. He promised his sheep not to drink during work hours anymore. They were unimpressed. Obviously after his past neglect, they were a bit sceptical. “What if I buy you guys pizza?” he pleaded, at his wit’s end. Begrudgingly, they agree. The whole crew all went back to his oak tree and lived happily ever after. They started from the bottom, now his whole team here.

The end.


 * King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 20:49, September 14, 2013 (UTC)
 * What is it with morality and shepherds? Even the thrown-in cell phone can't hide the archaic motif. I would have preferred a fable, old-style form but with a refreshing message. Something like 'How the raven attempted to deny the throne to the hare on grounds of his past involvement with giraffes, but utterly failed due to the country's firm believe in second chances and personal growth'.  07:18, September 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * I just remembered The Raven and the Mockingbird - a republican rhyme that recants the rule of royalty. Maybe the opposition to the crown would like to adopt dear lady Mockingbird as a symbol? 07:26, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

About the deletion chaos
Many apologies for all the deleted pages. My housemate crept into my room while I'd gone down to the nearest shop to buy some things for dinner, intending to wreak havoc on Facebook, but for some reason decided Wikination would be a more amusing target. :( --Semyon 17:57, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

Haha my friends have wreaked havoc on my Facebook many a time :) Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 18:03, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * @Semyon: You won't get away that easily. As one of our pages has been affected, the Oceana Government will put all of its resources onto this case and we'll find out what really happened here :o --O u WTB 19:46, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Haha, ok. I'll get my friend to make an account so we can trial him. :P --Semyon 20:01, September 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Good :P --O u WTB 20:11, September 19, 2013 (UTC)

Villanova for Clymene
In the coming months we will see what the best Clymeni politicians have to offer. I hope the Clymene people know what i'm about and what I can do for the people of my favorite and most diverse and amazing state in all of Lovia. I've always stayed true to my word and have been loyal and true to Clymene, keeping its integrity strong. I always had a simple message of "What's best for the middle class, what's best for the working class, is best for the whole of society" and will always benefit our economy and socio-economic structure. With so much work to be done I can promise five basic plans for Clymene. Please vote for me, not to gain a new title, or to gain a new job. But because our children and most vulnerable need a good politician and a true clymeni to lead this state towards the forefront. Marcus/Michael Villanova 01:35, September 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * The state has been a tad inactive politics wise and we must change this. Point one of my plan means State Law will be re-introduced and give the people devolution, power and the right to have their voices heard.
 * The state needs a body to have the people heard. A thirty member body will be erected and totally controlled by the people. It will include: 20 members elected from single seat districts. 8 more from districts themselves, and two more being Governor and the deputy. This way the rural peoples will be represented in some fashion and not be over crowded by the more urban people from Adoha and Sofasi.
 * Transportation overhaul. Clymene has a broken down, un-analytical, and confusing transportation system. Under my watch I'll make sure the government can fix this and make sure that even in the most rural of areas the Clymeni people will have cheap, active and great service in the form of green busing. Trains running more frequently, and a ferry system so Seveners can come to and fro, working and building in our great state.
 * Healthcare for all citizens. A comprehensive healthcare system which will be state ran and free to all citizens. Each village or above with some form of a hospital or check-up center that will allow citizens to be healthy but also let medical students straight out of college to know we are hiring and want the best and brightest in Lovia and the world.
 * Education for the 21st century. My favorite subjects were always the historical, political and more philosophical classes. We need to encourage this thinking and spark interest in the new jobs which fuel Lovia's economy. We have to set standards higher for more Science and Mathematics. Allowing students to also study history and english so they can progress and learn from the past but not make our same mistakes. We need new thinkers, but also new tinkerers that power our homes, power our trains, and lead future generations to think and continue a great tradition of Lovian thinkers.

Marcus, do you realise you haven't actually nominated yourself yet? :P 77topaz (talk) 06:14, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

I am now :P hopefully many can see I will be a great governor for Clymene though Marcus/Michael Villanova 13:45, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

Marcus, you get my full support in Clymene :D Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 16:12, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

@ Marcus- Two things: 1. Our healthcare system is pretty comprehensive now, after a few years of work. If you get elected the only thing to really do is actually work on the funding methods for it. 2. Good luck, hopefully you'll get elected and people see the need for a forward-thinking governor. HORTON11 : •  18:25, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

Citizen page
Could everyone please update the citizen page please with their official residences? It makes things much simpler to check with state elections approaching. Thanks. :) --Semyon 12:01, September 22, 2013 (UTC)

Lovian Times Polling 23-24 September
Elections
 * 23-24 September 2013 - If a Federal Election happened tomorrow who would you give a major vote to?
 * Conservative Christian Party of Lovia - 5
 * Conservative Nationalist Party - 3
 * United Left - 2
 * Social Liberal Party - 1
 * Green Party - 0
 * Positive Lovia - 0
 * Other - 0


 * 23-24 September 2013 - If a Federal Election happened tomorrow who would you give a minor vote to?
 * Conservative Christian Party of Lovia - 4
 * Conservative Nationalist Party - 2
 * United Left - 3
 * Social Liberal Party - 1
 * Green Party - 0
 * Positive Lovia - 1
 * Other - 0


 * 23-24 September 2013 - If a Federal Election happened tomorrow who would you give a support vote to?
 * Conservative Christian Party of Lovia - 1
 * Conservative Nationalist Party - 0
 * United Left - 1
 * Social Liberal Party - 1
 * Green Party - 3
 * Positive Lovia - 1
 * Other - 4

Approval
 * 23-24 September 2013 - Do you approve or disapprove of the Government's record to date?
 * Approve - 8
 * Disapprove - 2
 * Don't Know - 1

Flavour Polling
 * 23-24 September 2013 - What is the most important issue in these state elections?
 * Culture - 0
 * Economy - 1
 * Education - 5
 * Energy - 0
 * Environment - 0
 * Health - 2
 * Justice - 3
 * Policing - 0
 * Transport - 0
 * Immigration - 0


 * 23-24 September 2013 - What is the second most important issue in these state elections?
 * Culture - 0
 * Economy - 2
 * Education - 2
 * Energy - 1
 * Environment - 0
 * Health - 1
 * Justice - 2
 * Policing - 3
 * Transport - 0
 * Immigration - 0


 * 23-24 September 2013 - What is the least important issue in these state elections?
 * Culture - 0
 * Economy - 0
 * Education - 2
 * Energy - 0
 * Environment - 1
 * Health - 1
 * Justice - 0
 * Policing - 2
 * Transport - 1
 * Immigration - 4

Comments
Go, go, go! Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 07:47, September 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * I gave my votes, though I must say it's a rather strange poll. SE elections vary from state to state. While immigration might not be a huge problem in most states, it's top-priority in Oshenna f.e. --O u WTB 13:44, September 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Of course, this is a poll that is only accurate on a nation-wide level, but it'd be difficult to make an easily comprehended state by state polling that was accurate (inhabitants voting in their state polls). This at least we can say that the immigration concerns come largely from Oceana, and other such things for other states. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 14:17, September 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Darn it, I seem to have missed these polls, which also caused me to not notify Vivaporius about them. :( 77topaz (talk) 10:12, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Your disattention causes GP to do bad in the polls :P --O u WTB 10:22, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well even with you absence you got I think 4% of the vote, that's 4 seats in congress if this was an election. So not bad considering absence. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 10:34, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Are you going to update the newspapers that publishes these polls or are you just doing them for fun and out of habit nowadays? King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 11:46, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * They shall be published soon. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 12:21, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sounds very prophetic :o --O u WTB 12:23, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * We had better hope so. :o --Semyon 13:32, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

Semyon polling
Do you think this site is: Too serious Not serious enough About right This poll is ridiculous

I'd like to vote twice in this poll :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 12:53, September 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * That's fairly easy. King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 13:17, September 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Done :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 15:51, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Sylvania State Elections
Don't forget the elections to the Sylvania State Council is also happening. Go! Place candidacies! Place them here.

Currently only Oos and I are running, and as fun as that might be, we need a variety of political leanings to govern for all! :D Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 18:56, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

UL will be signing up in a few short moments :) Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 18:59, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Why, Kunar, why?? :o This was our big chance on a real CNP-CCPL state :'( --O u WTB 19:09, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * At the current rate, it will be. People just aren't seeing this, apart from Frijoles. :P Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 19:31, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Then we need to vote out Frijoles, and we've got the entire state :o Good idea :P --O u WTB 19:34, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Why are we holding new elections? The last ones were just two months ago, right? :P 77topaz (talk) 20:24, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Kings Debate
This is a debate for Frijoles, Wabba and Viva. Keep answers as short as possible but explain fully. And in the debates, remember, remain calm! I have the final say on everything as the moderator of this debate.


 * Welcome to the debate, tonight we are seeing how two of the three candidates for Kings Governor shape up against each other.
 * First we have Jhon Lewis of the CCPL and then we have Marcel Cebara of UL.
 * Glad to have both of you here, you'll both get a short opening statement and then we'll move onto questions.
 * Okay we'll go from left to right, so Marcel could you give us a brief introduction of yourself please.
 * Marcel Cebara: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. And of course to my opponent here, Mr. Lewis. I am Marcel Cebara and I believe that I can offer a new choice for Governor to the people of Kings. I can bring enthusiasm, and fresh ideas to the job. I want to be Governor of this state because I want to give the people of Kings a bigger say in state affairs. I want to improve education, and make sure that every child in Kings leaves school with the world class education they deserve. Thank you, and good luck to Mr. Lewis.
 * Rakham Tarik Al-Asmari: Hello, I am Rakham Tarik Al-Asmari. Please don't mind the long name, just call me Rakham. I offer an alternative to the mainstream policies we have seen in recent years. I offer progression and solidarity, but I also remain true to the traditionary values held by many of Lovia's citizens. My hope is that we can rally behind this leadership, and push Kings to the forefront of Lovian politics and economics. Thank you.
 * Jhon Lewis: My opening statement is short but strong! I hope the people of Kings will elect a new Governor with their brains. Not with a group conformism. I think still many people are not reacting or doing something with their opinion because they think many other people are against their ideas. I hope those people will stand up and scream their ideas!
 * Thank you all
 * Now we move on to questions
 * First topic is education
 * Kings has remained reasonably stagnant in the matter of education this past year, while other states have experienced a growth in this sector.
 * If you were elected, what would you do in the education sector?
 * Marcel Cebara:
 * Rakham Tarik Al-Asmari: I believe that a strong state-led education system would help in advancing learning within the state. I would see to it that Kings would gain total control over its educational system, and use that independence to reform it and mold it to the needs of King's residents. One one-arching system for Lovia's young and growing cannot effectively handle all of the unique challanges and requirements in each state. Teachers must be properly motivated – socially and economically. Students must be properly educated, we need new books, better funding for advanced classes, a more dynamic learning environment. Education is viewed as boring by many children. Make it an experience they were cherish for the rest of their lives.
 * Jhon Lewis: If every State has its own education system and plans the State of Kings can open many high schools and secundary schools too with money from the State. There would be no Government opinion in it. The State of Kings can make its own education laws so these will restruct the education in Kings with the opening of new schools and changing the subjechts in lessons. Changing the sales, working hours and schedules.
 * Again thank you for the answers, if you wish to have a short free debate with each other now, you may
 * DEBATE
 * Debate ends
 * Right onto the second topic, the economy
 * Kings is the second largest economy out of the states in Lovia, it's famed for its various professional services and Newhaven enjoys a position as the second financial and trade centre of the nation
 * What would you do, if elected, to improve the economy of Kings?
 * Marcel Cebara:
 * Rakham Tarik Al-Asmari: Well, speaking as a businessman, I see increased development of Kings' natural resources and economic capital as a vehicle to increase profit for all residents in the long run. Banking is a mode that can serve the state well if properly cared for by state leaders. As governor of this great state, I would make lowering interest rates on loans to encourage large purchases to increase the state coffers. Also, I would see to it that small businesses have a better chance in competing on a state-level, rather than the town or hamlet levels we see today. Another major advancement would to make Kings an appealling place to reside, to draw in innovators from other parts of the globe, and to set up their businesses here in Kings to increase compitition, and to build a solid market that would provide hundreds of new jobs within years of their startup. Building a business takes time, but it will be well worth it in the long run.
 * Jhon Lewis: I hope we can stay as a good economy State. The services sector is important but is on its almost peak. I think investing more in farmery, fishery, agriculture, mining and labor is good too but not on a small way but on a big way with some very big companies owned by the State.
 * Good answers from all, free debate may begin
 * DEBATE
 * Debate ends
 * Onto the last but not least topic, healthcare
 * Kings has a reasonable healthcare sector, and we have a large amount of independent doctors too, however people have complained about the lack of a comprehensive healthcare system
 * If elected, what would you do with healthcare in Kings?
 * Marcel Cebara:
 * Rakham Tarik Al-Asmari: Ah, of course. Right now, the healthcare system is not entirely deversified, and lacks many options in terms of certain types of healthcare, insurance, and financial compansation by the government. Additionally, costs are going up as many Lovians who have completed their medical training, see little long-tern economic opprotunity in Lovia. Let's just be honest here; Kings and Lovia as a whole, are not very big, and lack many potential patients, aka clients, that make being a doctor at home a very unappealing option. Many are moving abroad, were costs, though lower, are more populous with many more paying patients. We need to find ways of keeping them here, and though I'm not suggesting hurting youself to lower costs at home, I do suggest that Kings become a major medical center to draw in more patients from abroad seeking first-rate treatment, and sponsering attempts to lower medical costs at home to make treatment for resident Lovians, and those of Kings' most importantly, more affordable. Bear in mind, becoming a medical center could draw in foreigners who may one day decide to return, and reside here permanently.
 * Jhon Lewis: All medical centers and hospitals must be sold to the State of Kings so the State can appoint heads of hospitals. One of the centers can be given to the Blackburn University so students will have a good educational opportunity. The State can make some new laws to have a thoroughly renovated system of healthcare. Every hospital has its own normal and main sectors but every hospital will have some special services like a heart department in one hospital and a serious injuries department. Also every hospital or center will have a extensive and well equipped children's department.
 * Thank you all, the last free debate may begin
 * DEBATE
 * Debate ends
 * Thank you for your contributions to this debate
 * You may all now make short closing statements
 * Marcel Cebara:
 * Rakham Tarik Al-Asmari: Like my fellow Lovians, I wish to see my children and their children reside here in Kings for a long time. However, like any human being, they will have to make that decision to stay here themselves. If we don't make Kings into a state that has the best of the best and the greatest centers for the next generation of Lovians, they may decide to move away, taking with them that next generation of thinkers, economists, entertainers and leaders. Let's make Kings the great state in Lovia. Let's keep Kings great. Thank you.
 * Jhon Lewis:
 * Thank you, goodbye Kings and goodnight

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Comments
Fire away. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 19:46, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Do you mind if I change my opening statement just a teeny bit? Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 19:48, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, said is said :o Anyway, it's pretty clear already that CCPL's a winner again :P --O u WTB 19:53, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Now hold on. We don't know that just yet. :D Flag of the Hurian Federation.png Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 21:12, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

We shall see about that :P Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 19:54, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Tsss.. :P --O u WTB 19:55, September 26, 2013 (UTC)