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2013 Federal Elections
I know that this is early, but I am wondering wether you plan on running for Prime Minister in the 2013 elections, or wether your party just going for multiple seats in Congress. I'm asking, because I have ambitions for the upcoming elections as well. I am certain that I will be able to convince my friend Matt (Therider) to run for seats in congress, and personally, I was considering running for PM. Get back to me so that our coalition can collaborate, — Christopher Costello  (Pikapi • Chat  • What's up ) 01:34, October 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Just hopping that you see this even though its pretty far back. — Beer.png Christopher Costello (Pikapi • Chat  • What's up ) 20:02, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * No I'm looking for certain departments that's all, if you get enough seats and want to run for Prime Minister, I don't know, you'd probably have to compete with Krosby and Oos, and that's a hard match. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 20:06, October 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, I wasn't aware that Time was running. I suppose that if I did run that that would cause a schism in our coalition. — Beer.png Christopher Costello (Pikapi • Chat  • What's up ) 20:20, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know if he is, if you want go and check with him, I still don't know though, Oos is a good Prime Minister, he mediates and maintains stability however for now check with Time, at least you know I'm not running at the moment. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 20:22, October 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm happy to count the CNP as one of the PL's closest and strongest allies. I do think that we share the same political outlook, and if I was to run, having your support would definitely mean a lot to the effort and to me. — Beer.png Christopher Costello (Pikapi • Chat  • What's up ) 20:33, October 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll vote for you if you decide to go for it and Time doesn't. The coalition with SDP would probably collapse and they are a big party. I'll be focusing on the seats. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  LogoCNP.png 09:07, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

Speaker's Corner
I'm going to get started in the Speakers' Corner in a few weeks? Should I or should I wait until the end? <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   12:45, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Just wondering <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   17:59, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Feel free to start whenever you like but make sure you have the endurance to see a campaign through! :D Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 18:11, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

User:Crystalbeastdeck09/Hamlet Maps
Look at the page^ it's a hamlet I made on another wikia but the wikia failed. Would it be okay if it could be added to Sylvania? Any comments? Concerns? I think it would be somewhere in East Sylvania, just saying Marcus/Michael Villanova 16:30, October 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * The settlement in it's theme (apples and all) is good however it has a lot of problems. First of all, it's called thousand apples and has a large population however how could this be if it's founder is french-german (so considering the multi-lingual Sylvania he would probably name it something from those languages) and if it was founded in 1923 considering most large settlements have a base from the very start of Lovia. Also I don't like this political lean you've injected into it, a rebellious town that is progressive and disobeyed congress? I don't think so on that insertion of progressive and disobeying of congress. Also the town somehow unionised in Sylvania where most farmers are self employed? (in case you don't know this is due to a huge lack of corporate power over primary industry in Sylvania, this is not only historic but literal, there are barely any farming corporations that have fields outside of settlements). Honestly it seems like this town could be renamed the Labour Party Town. And by the way this specific politicising is not something I just oppose in this case (I mean I like the kind of classification that noble city gives it's citizens) I also don't like this Train Village leftist tag that's been given to it, I want to word it better so it's more along the lines of say socialist and liberal (like the way that Noble City is described to be split between liberals and conservatives) and not tying it to a party. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 17:27, October 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Most of it is adpated from "islands wikia" is i just changed the names and all, upon your point on cities being political. If you go to some cities and town most are politically different and driven. Liverpool and Manchester vote heavily Labour while London gives it's fare share of Conservatives and Labour Party members. I've deleted the stuff of unions and progressive leaning but kept the politcal history. I don't know about you but, If your a party you know your bases. Frankly, I'd say the CCPL goes well in Oceana along with the CNP. In Sylvania, Labour and CNP. In Kings LDP and PL. In Seven CCPL. And Clymene goes Labour. So yeah i don't know what your talking about because Oceana is a "rebellious state" and has always been, well here's a city that is. Marcus/Michael Villanova 19:12, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

PL has no significant presence in Kings. . . they don't run in state elections, and they seem pretty spread out nationwide to me. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:29, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Just on this quickly I think CCPL rules Oceana. End of. :L Sylvania is a liberal state, Kings is a liberal state, Seven is Conservative, Clymene is about as socialist as it gets. all in all CNP would do pretty well in Sylvania and Kings and maybe a teeny bit in Oceana but honestly I think we'd do better in Seven than Oceana. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 22:34, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Well, the only reason that Clymene is socialist is because only Horton and George run, and they are both leftist. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:45, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Concerns - Comments
Article 5 3.1.1 " to protect the state and its inhabitants from whimsical construction plans." the word whimsical reminds me something sheldon cooper would say, not 100% sure what it means.

From what i'm getting it's almost like the Congress answers to the states, which i'm not really for.

Article 8 3.1 I advise you for the sake of the law (which i'm for) don't add this. Each state should have the right to set the number of councilers. It was something I added in my law, but failed and was called out for. Just say each state council can set the number of councilers, but it can not exceed 50 and not have less than 15 members.

Personal want: I actually like that someone could run in two states. So that instead of me just caring of what goes on in Sylvania I can also care what goes on in Clymene. Otherwise. PRO :D Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:42, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

right: But I'm glad you support it, I have been considering the option to have variable seats but it seems less important than actually getting power to the states. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 22:53, October 29, 2012 (UTC) right 2: Once again glad for the advice. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 23:11, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) That's already in the Constitution I did not make that change.
 * 2) Not true. Re read, the states do not have power over congress.
 * 3) That would add too much bureaucracy in my opinion, I'll see what other users say though.
 * 4) I don't think that's a good idea in all honesty. It would only make sense if Lovia was confederate.
 * 1) Makes me question the original author
 * 2) just what i though
 * 3) Im sure states can handle the size, not a make or break but i'd like the states to control this. Like how seven can have 20 councilers meanwhile how does Sylvania much larger than Seven in population still gets 20.
 * 4) What do you mean by confederate O_o Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:02, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) I don't think he's here anymore
 * 2) don't worry I understand it's a bit too long winded to explain but Congress will not be answering to the states.
 * 3) It's more for equal representation within the states. However I'd be happy to change this if at least one other person raises that specific concern.
 * 4) Confederate would mean that States would have most powers, but still answer to Congress and Congress would be basically where they would agree on laws that needed to be applied to all the states.

3.Okay 4. I'm again for the two states per person for more build up in the states, but again. Not a make or break. Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:16, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

right 3: Just need to raise awareness and support now. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 23:21, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) So these two are dealt with?
 * 2) So these two are dealt with?
 * 3) Good
 * 4) Again going to say what I said for three if someone else raises it as a specific point they want then yes, but if I remember there was opposition to it in your bill and so if I meet the same opposition I'm afraid I'll stick with 1 state per person.

Get your side in a row and i'll try to get mine xD Leggo! Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:26, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

I would think the Coalition would support this fully. We just need to get the inactives to vote too. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 23:37, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Important Notice
Hello Kunarian. Please go to Bretherland chat by turning to wikia skin for an important politic notice. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   16:32, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

New York Flooded
I wonder if Costello has been affected by New York City's power loss. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   18:05, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

I also live in New York, and it's been stable so far, but depending on were he lives, like in downtown, then no. Marcus/Michael Villanova 18:15, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah. I heard all public transport has been cancelled <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   18:19, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

No give up!
Seems there have been alot of problems and issues and so far (mostly) they've been resolved. This seems to be another one. On tax and spend, If the federal government isn't taxing (for all serious purposes) then who is? I have no problems with councils but would need to see how the powers are to be split before maing a decision. Also, taxation needs to be addressed. I will introduce a comprehensive public health bill, but I feel the state should raise some of the necessary money instead of putting all of the burdern on the feds. HORTON11 : •  18:59, October 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) I'm sure you are working on the tax and spend bill in one of your side pages ( i see) and it's looking fine so i'm guessing that will pass.
 * 2) I'm sure you are aware of the Wales assmebly being someone from Britian. Like most devoluted assmeblies they recieve most of there money from the federal government and spend it. But unlike the scottish assmebly they can not tax. Many Welsh Lords and MPs have expressed concerns over this because simply it's the only assmebly in the world (it seems) that is can spend, but not tax or at least they don't have the obligation to. This is a make or break for me. It seems everyone agrees on the idea of a council but aren't on point with the powers. Marcus/Michael Villanova 18:53, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

I have not given up, and the only one causing problems at the moment is Horton. I have delayed it (at worst until next week) to let Hortons concerns be dealt with and so we can have some breathing space between his attacks (which were done without even having read the reform) and the putting forwards of the bill.

And on tax. I might add a state income tax to deal with the "no tax" but "yes spend" policy. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 19:03, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

My only issues are with division of powers and voting. If you can address these (or reach some compromise) you'll have my support. HORTON11 : •  19:07, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

An appointed governor normally has greater overall support than a governor which wins through first past the post. And being from Britain I can tell you how much support some of our politicians have, and it rhymes with cluck fall. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 19:18, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Then don't uses fptp, it often isolates a good minority from their leader. There are many viable alternatives to electing the governor, such as a 2-round system or Contingent vote, for example. HORTON11 : •  19:28, October 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * With two candidates in most states, I don't think that'll be practical. Personally I think it would be easier if you agreed, we are maintaining Governor powers and considering your points if someone else supports them then I'll add in the direct election of the governor and the proportional election of the Council, okay? Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 19:36, October 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * It makes no sense though, to have two seperate elections. Because the same two people would be runing. The majority still agrees for the original Marcus/Michael Villanova 19:44, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Federal Elections
How many seats are the CNP aiming for in the federal elections. It'd be good to know so I can work on getting some. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   19:33, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

We aim to break 10 seats :) Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 19:40, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Okay. I'll try and get at least 3 :) <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   19:41, November 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's grand! let's win those seats! :D I'm tired tonight so I'll be doing stuff over the week. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 19:47, November 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * :P Okay. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  LogoCNP.png 20:04, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Sylvania State Council
If reform doesnt pass (or not) should we create this anyway and go ahead? Marcus/Michael Villanova 20:40, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

You should. But make a balanced palette, please. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:27, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Look if thats one hang up with you on that bill, I love politics and democracy and realism. So if there are twenty seats (i won 8 seats) I would distribute 5 to labour, 1 to CPL.nm and maybe a Communist Train Village party, because the area was so badly hit you could say that a small communist sect grew there or something. And the other seat idk :D Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:12, November 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think I'm going to make it 30 seats. Semyon set the bar and I think I'll meet it. And Marcus, we're going to have more than just CNP, GP and LP. We're going to have all parties from Lovia. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 22:14, November 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * I know, i'm just talking about my seats. Which i'll distribute evenly among left and center-left parties. Also i asked 77Topaz and what his seats would be, i haven't heard much from him. Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:22, November 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * You asked him three minutes ago, how quickly do you expect him to answer? :D --Semyon 22:24, November 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Marcus, the most seats will be reserved for the CNP, secondly Labour, Thirdly GP. That shall be the only official delegation. And on top of that, we're going to be giving seats to other parties, and the other parties (semyon, oos, time, pikapi) will control those. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 22:25, November 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Wait, isnt like congress, we still control the councilers just there in different parties? That's how it goes nationally. Marcus/Michael Villanova 00:48, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Hiya
Hello Kunarian. I am going to make a Train Village Stock Exchange, is that okay? It will just be like a local stock exchange. Btw, can you please add a grey block for it. Thanks <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   16:41, November 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * No, Train Village would not have a stock exchange. Look at stock exchanges in real life, they are huge and normally for entire nations like the UK, the stock exchange in Noble City is only there because it's small and to allow Lovians to trade shares locally instead of using a foriegn one. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 16:47, November 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, it was just an idea and I'm not bothered. Thanks for the info, <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  LogoCNP.png 16:51, November 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem, but you see why it's hard to fix train village, there are lots of ideas but few are practical. Personally I think I'm going to cut down the neighborhoods. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 16:54, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Sylvania State Council
I edited the Sylvania State Council, just adding the correct green party logo link. Hope you don't mind. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  08:12, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

Notice
To Lukas Hoffmann

We are currently looking for a better name for the CNP-PL-SLP-GP coalition and we would like to ask you to see if you have a name. If you do have a name, go to section 6 of the Forum:Political Coalitions and leave your name idea.

Dave Leskromento Coalition Messenger

Question
Can I add Andy Leskromento and Mark Leskromento to the CNP? <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   16:38, November 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sure :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 21:25, November 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I've added them to the list of members. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP LogoCNP.png 08:25, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

Notice
I let 4kant,6 join the CNP. Just telling you. :) <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   19:26, November 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * okay, next time tell me before, just in case. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 19:27, November 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks for the reply. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP LogoCNP.png 19:28, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Userboxes
You enjoy stealing my innovative ideas, don't you? :D — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello  (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 19:28, November 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * I borrow everybodies good ideas ;D but yes, it was rather good and so I decided that the CNP one could use a nice sprucing up too :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 19:48, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank you for showing your support to Dave Leskromento on becoming the Minister of Justice.

<font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  12:09, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Hiya
Hiya. Is there any place we can talk privately? <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   13:27, December 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Not really considering that I've changed my style to mono, what is it that you need? Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 13:30, December 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, I also use monobook so try doing this http://www.bretherland.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Chat?useskin=Wikia <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  LogoCNP.png 13:34, December 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Didn't work for me :P Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 13:47, December 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Try again. It'll work this time. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP LogoCNP.png 13:50, December 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, it did work :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:11, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the clarification about Hoffmann being British. I wasn't sure whether to add him or not. --Semyon 10:51, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the Kamerons in Lovia are actually of British descent, the last German ones were killed off in WW2. The Hoffmanns are German descended so they make Lukas technically both British and German descent. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 10:57, December 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * :P <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  LogoCNP.png 17:20, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

You might want to take a look at this. Marcus is "attacking" two members of our coalition. 77topaz (talk) 01:31, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

I thought Labour gave freedom of who to vote for. Very misleading. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  13:20, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

PL party platform
Hey what do you think of the new PL party platform? It is very messy in its current state, and I was hoping that you could give me advice and/or help me stay a little more organized and objective. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 16:57, December 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's very good, some of the policies don't feel like you're telling me exactly what you plan to do though, so maybe making them clearer and more detailed would help? other than that you have a very good platform! :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 17:10, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

Do you still want to make the seals for the remaining ministries? About half still don't have them. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:14, December 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * yeah sorry about that, I've been having an 'exciting' life, make it hard to keep up to date with some things I need to do. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 17:20, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

Tariffs and stuff
This just occurred to me now (and I'm sure that you had your laugh already :L) is there even any real difference between your tariffs and foreign import VATs besides the catchy name? And Merry Christmas! I kinda forgot about that. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 02:20, December 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * I know you've been ignoring my above post, which I still look forward to seeing you justify. Furthermore, I'd like you to know that I am offended that you're claiming that the CNP was responsible for the (rather ingenious) Federal Police reform that I proposed, because all that your character did was help to officially bring it about. I really hate that we have to communicate in such an unfriendly manner, but it bothers me deeply how you rarely consider to collaborate with me. :L — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 03:30, December 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * I haven't been ignoring it, more of at the time you posted it I was bombarded with criticism about everything else and didn't feel all too merry and so I avoided most of wikia, nothing personal Pikapi. Where did I put that the CNP had the sole responsibility for the reform? if I really did I'll change it. And I'm sorry you feel that way, honestly I feel that we'll be a lot more collaborative this year coming than ever before, and I'll put my two cents in to make sure of that and I hope you will too. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 10:51, December 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright, you didn't say that the CNP was solely responsible for the reform, but on the CNP page you did state it in a way that sounded like it was the CNP's doing and I didn't appreciate that, but looking back, it was because I was a little more upset about other things. I'm sorry I sounded upset, but can you please explain the difference between tariffs and a VAT on foreign goods, they strike me as being the exact same thing. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 20:02, December 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay man, were those things to do with me? cause I can have a look at them too if you want. :) But the wording on the page said we did it in co-operation with you, and that's simply because I feel it's a great area where we can truly say we have co-operated and we are adding to the original reform you proposed even now, the pay plans for the police were just that and the idea for the new coastally (this being the key thing) based headquarters are going to be that too and I feel that we're going to add even more next year, that's why I put it in that phrasing, not because I wanted to steal anything from you besides I'll make it clear in the policy section that it was your idea originally. I think they are the same basically however, my import tariff is a tax upon the nominal value of the good at it's sale, a value added tax is a tax on the goods added value only (clue in the name) and a sales tax (in case you're wondering) is a tax on the nominal value of a good upon the sale to a consumer. hope that helps! :D Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 20:45, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Chat
Come on chat, Kunarian, we're discussing Lovia's new colony. :P --Semyon 11:00, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Make that: Semyon's idea for a Lovian colony. :P 77topaz (talk) 11:03, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

Feds
Federal Elections chat! on normal chat. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  11:10, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

Chat
Important. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  18:11, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

I would like a word with you when you are available. It appears that you've been up to something underhanded and I don't like it. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 20:42, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Nothing underhanded at all. Just A change of plans. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 21:11, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the vote Kunarian, I appreciate it. :) Good luck with the election yourself! --Semyon 13:14, January 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * No problem, I feel you deserve it. And thank you. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 13:23, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Right side
It is though. Beaver River is the border between Oceana and Sylvania. If NC was on the left side, it would've been in Oceana... --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:35, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Please can I use the format of your websits to do one of my own? Granero (talk)
 * Sure, use the Suche bar thing I made :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 09:58, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Hey
You have any snow problems or is it just fine down south? <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   07:42, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Snow's all good here, as in we haven't had to go into School. :D Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 07:44, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

ah right. As far as I'm aware no schools in the north are closed :( <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   07:47, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Ah sucks. Well try and enjoy your day none the less! Surely there's still plenty of snow around to be used. :) Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 07:52, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm getting a train to London this afternoon and am panicking about it. :/ --Semyon 10:55, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Panicking about not being able to go or getting stuck? or panicking that the train is going to fly off the tracks? Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 10:57, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Getting stuck. I need to transfer in London you see. :) --Semyon 11:01, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah well the snow isn't cripplingly bad where I am, I don't think it's quite bad enough yet. I hope your journey goes well anyways, nice and uneventful. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 11:09, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * When there's snow or even a temperature slightly beneath zero in the Netherlands, trains never go and nor do buses :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 11:09, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Dear that's a bit drastic. We here in Britain luckily still have things running, just really depends on how well they run. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 11:22, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, officially most trains still run, but in reality you can't count on it. Especially not in areas far from the Randstad (Amsterdam - Rotterdam - The Hague). --O u WTBsjrief-mich 11:25, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * I see, only the 'important' areas get trains when things get tough. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 11:28, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * The problem is, only the Netherlands have issues with a little bit of snow... In Scandinavia the trains are all running :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 11:42, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. Maybe we should look and see how they cope with all this... could be useful for Lovia. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 11:58, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Lovia doesn't have snow that often though :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:04, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thinking about it, we probably only have snow on the mountainous areas. Lovia is quite mild. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 13:07, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Indeed, and the mountainous areas are probably not high enough for eternal snow. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:14, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Why does the USA call Myanmar as Burma still? <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   07:59, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

I don't know, they're both official names. :P Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 08:03, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

It's weird. In a english scenario England would say we are called England and someone else would say we are called Rainandsnowland. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  08:05, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Or Madweatherland. :L Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 08:16, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Try setting your school ablaze. Perhaps you don't have to go to school then :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:27, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

when all else fails, fire is the answer. :L Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 08:48, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Note
I'm going to make up some politicians to fill up my seats in congress with. Just letting you know <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   16:08, January 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Take half of the already made people. Please create realistic people. This party is made up of people with European (continental mainly) and American Ancestry. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 16:13, January 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * No, you will have enough seats to fill up the already created people. Keep them and I'll make some more european or american descent people for my seats in the congress. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  LogoCNP.png 16:17, January 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Happy, try and co-operate here, I don't mind if you take two or three. Really and truly I will not have enough seats to take them all. I look like I'm going to have 7 which will not allow me to refill with all the people I start with. You'll have plenty of left over seats to play with. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 16:19, January 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Seriously just take Joseph Fletcher and George Gellerd. Two seats won't make a difference to you. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 16:22, January 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry but personally I do not want to take any. I have planned everything out and written articles on word to copy/paste and it has taken ages. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  LogoCNP.png 16:25, January 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Happy. Firstly from experience you shouldn't have planned things out so early before knowing the result and should have spoken to me earlier, you should take those two, it will be better for the party and will produce consistency. Secondly, you won't lose anybody, and we can ensure they do something at least. Thirdly you need to be careful with getting ahead of yourself. You're doing it a lot recently, planning coalitions, seat plans without consulting on such important things until you've done it, believe me Happy I'm on your side I really am, but I can't help but seeing this headstrong action coming back around. So I ask you one more time, please take the two members or believe me it will cause more problems than not. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 16:31, January 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * I will take the two members, on one condition, I get to vote with them in congress. Because 2 seats can affect the voting results LOTS. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  LogoCNP.png 16:37, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you and don't worry they're your seats, and you will always control the voting for them, you'll just let the members fill the seats and they'll be under your control. Thanks a lot Happy, I'm glad we're on a level understanding. Also Happy are you still planning to go for Prime Minister or are you going to throw your backing behind Oos? Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 16:44, January 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, it depends on what happens. If CNP forms a coalition with CCPL, then I won't run, if we don't, then I'll run. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  LogoCNP.png 16:50, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Roger, in the former I'll be behind Oos and in the latter behind you. But I think we'll form a general coalition with CCPL and a few other parties. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 16:53, January 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay, you know I think the coalition would work well as you and Ilava could co-operate well on peace island wide projects. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP LogoCNP.png 16:55, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oos can co-operate with everyone except for "Yehova atheists" (atheists spreading their beliefs as if they are yehovas, yes, atheist come at your door in the Netherlands too..) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:57, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes I had already thought about that and it's benefits, we're really in a nice situation, if we can also get PL and Semyon on board that'd be nice, 3 Governors on side would be great. Looking to the left, I think GP might be interested as well as SLP and then that'd be 4 Governors and a Deputy in the State of Clymene. @Oos: Dear lord, I hope that doesn't happen here. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 17:03, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Great job
Great job in the elections, sorry i'm been inactive for the last week, my computer broke. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   18:12, January 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, congratulations to all CNP, CCPL en other conservative, christian and traditional party-members. Wabba The I (talk) 18:14, January 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * Go on chat wabba. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  LogoCNP.png 18:15, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah. Thanks for being such a great addition to the CNP. We've really pushed the boundry. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 18:16, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

No problem, I chose CNP for a reason. Hehe. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  18:19, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Steady.
For a moment I was wondering 'why has Kunarian made a template identical to ?' xD I'll delete it. --Semyon 23:12, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * yeah I know I had a moment. :L Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 23:34, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

7 days
We've only got 7 days remaining to form a coalition with CCPL. It's up to you, but you said it would be a good idea so i'm notifying you. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   07:46, January 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * We'll get that coalition. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 12:32, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, Kunarian, are you still developing/working on the Bretherland wikination? 77topaz (talk) 08:15, January 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Not at the moment as time has been thin however soon I'm going to go back and get on with it. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 12:32, January 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Are all the shires already named? 77topaz (talk) 10:38, January 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Not yet but they will be soon. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 23:55, January 29, 2013 (UTC)

State councils seem like an interesting idea, allowing more people to take part in governing a state. However, they might also slow down some processes. 77topaz (talk) 20:15, January 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * It doesn't slow down processes, it just allows them to happen at an area more local to the people, and considering the way we might do State Councils will probably mean they'll be better at Congress at passing legislation. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 22:28, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Coalition agreement?
Maybe a platform and an outline for which policies we want to set out in the year ahead? Come to chat, to discuss the platform/agreement for the coalition? Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:06, January 23, 2013 (UTC) The middle two are my wants or to see what the other parties think...Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:34, January 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Confederate Reform
 * Tax and Budget system
 * New/Reformed Departments and (test it out) Question Time for Ministers?
 * New Environmental Protection
 * Sabbath Sunday (protect those not willing to work on Sundays)/housewives (make it possible to choose without getting in financial troubles)
 * Religious education
 * I can't going to sleep soon. However I suggest that our big two to begin with are:
 * Confederate Reform
 * Establishing a tax and budget system
 * We can work out from there, but as I say we should give ourselves 6 points to complete, go from there, have a review half way through the year and then add points if necessary. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 23:28, January 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Alright then, Six center points would be nice
 * I don't think reformed departments nor question time is really a coalition policy thing. Although I'd love it if we made a Lovian Question Time. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 23:38, January 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Just brain storming. And should we write out like a long agreement or bulletpoints... Like a promise to get certain things done and accompish goals together? Marcus/Michael Villanova 00:12, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * Bullet points and agreements and promises are best. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 00:13, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * Is our coalition a governing one, to have a majority? I'm for a year long coalition in government. Marcus/Michael Villanova 03:13, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * User:Crystalbeastdeck09/Coalition Agreement if we are a governing/government coalition... Marcus/Michael Villanova 18:50, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

NLPers
Hey Kunarian. Are you still interested in John Bass et al. for the NCO? :) --Semyon 17:15, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Let me think for a moment, I think I may take one on board. I don't have many seats this year. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 17:17, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

chat
please. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  17:25, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for not adding the region map back to the election pages! —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 00:34, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Go Kunarian! :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:14, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah! :D Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 13:29, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Could you please go on the chat? There is an issue regarding West Sylvania. 77topaz (talk) 21:15, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

Chat
ASAP please. Extremely important. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  18:36, January 30, 2013 (UTC)

Gay equality
Hello! Namaste! Greetings!

My name is Elk Punarbhava and I am a member of the new social movement, Reboot, to which you are very much invited to join. We would be happy to have a new, people and nature loving member in our midst!

I want to introduce a bill in the 1st Chamber on same-sex marriage and gay equality. Before I write it, I am looking for a broad coalition of partners that will support it. I would like to make sure that all the rights that mixed-sex couples enjoy by law and in society, are also granted to homosexual couples. I am also adamant about defending the rights of these people and fighting all forms of discrimination. If possible, I will include this in the bill.

Can I count on you and the party you represent to stand by my side in this battle? Lovia needs change in the right direction. Making sure nobody is discriminated on the basis of sexual preference, or who he or she loves, is the first thing on my list, and hope it's on yours too. Let me know if I can count on you.

Thank you so very much, Punarbhava (talk) 13:49, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

chat
important. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  09:41, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

Request to the Governor
Dear Governor Hoffmann,

I would like to request permission to temporarily assume mayoralty over Clave Rock. I am part of a movement, Reboot, that would like to make Lovia a more environmentally friendly place. Considering we are an isolated group of islands, Lovia is the perfect place to experiment with environmental living practices. Clave Rock, then, is the perfect place to start within Lovia. It is isolated and small, already relatively green, and populated by people who look forward to some change for the better.

We would like your permission, so we can change the village's layout a bit, break down some dangerous ruins, and construct green houses instead. Many Lovians yearn for nature - and they yearn for the satisfaction of living in harmony with one another and with their environment. This is their chance.

Thank you so much in advance! Kind regards, Punarbhava (talk) 13:44, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

Dear Mr. Punarbhava

Local elections were disbanded by the highest authority of Lovia approximately 3 years ago. The highest authority is the Congress, and therefore the governor of Sylvania cannot give mayoral powers unless congress has given the governor the power to appoint mayors without their even being local elections.

Thank you for asking, Mr. Dave Leskromento (<font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   13:55, February 19, 2013 (UTC))
 * The Constitution, however, says: "The Governor may decide on the construction, destruction, re-organization of neighborhoods and hamlets in that specific state." Punarbhava (talk) 14:07, February 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * It says that in the irish constitution, however, the governor of Ulster does not make all the desicion of the representatives of areas. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  LogoCNP.png 14:09, February 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Are you then saying that I should ignore the law, no mather what? What do you have a Constitution for then? :P Punarbhava (talk) 14:11, February 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's just the position of mayor and local positions were void after 2010 State reform, so even if the governor had pow pretaining to that, it wouldn't happen because the position doesn't exist. Marcus/Michael Villanova 14:14, February 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * So, there is no governor? :s Punarbhava (talk) 14:14, February 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * The role "mayor" does not exist in Lovia, and therefore nobody can "become it", it's like the Prime Minister starting up a president role for someone random. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  LogoCNP.png 14:16, February 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, right. Well, I wouldn't do it for the title. I just would like to give some new energy to Clave Rock. Any other way I can get legal authorization to do that? Punarbhava (talk) 14:19, February 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sure, you could ask Hoffmann for permission to do a certain amount of things in the town, just like Horton and Charles-Alexander did in Charleston. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  LogoCNP.png 14:24, February 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, that's what I did, right? Ask him for that permission . Thanks for the info though! Punarbhava (talk) 14:25, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

(reset) Punarbhava, the Constitution says that the Congress may override the states. The Congress did override the states, so there are governors and deputy governors, but there are no mayors. There is ONE mayor. That is Oos. He is the ceremonial mayor of Hurbanova, but he is granted no power from this. He is just a public figure. --Quarantine Zone (talk) 16:17, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

You may proceed with your current planning, I will oversee it and any changes considered culturally, economically or socially unsuitable will be vetoed. You cannot take up the non-existent position of mayor but I can name you (as a temporary governor issued position) the development officer for clave rock. I hope you bring culture and strength to the community there. Good luck. Also may I say sorry if this response is late or feels a bit mechanical, I'm currently very ill and will be having a slightly major operation on the 28th, so until I recover from that I may be running a bit sub par. Anyways have fun all! Keep moving forwards! :) Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 20:52, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

It's okay to ignore the abolishing of local positions, as they are mostly honorary - things had to be in agreement with the governor before the reform anyway. It is within the bounds of the constitution for the governor to appoint a mayor for a city, town, village, or hamlet. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 01:37, February 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * If that is true then I will only award Mayorships to people who have truly proved to be a driving force behind a settlement. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 10:28, February 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you Governor! Your answer pleases me very much and wish you good health, so you can soon come visit a revived, renewed, regreened Clave Rock! Punarbhava (talk) 15:24, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

From the labour by-election candidate
John O'Farrell is the eastleigh by-election candidate for labour. Professor and satirist. I thought it was a nice jab at you UKIPers :P Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:47, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

I don't see how it is a jab (forgive me some parts of politics elude me due my blunt outlook on life). Luckily it seems rather snobbish and disregarding of peoples real worries about the EU, so he's probably amused his support base but lost a few undecided voters to UKIP. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 22:16, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Lol...it was a joke xD Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:35, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

I know but I'm ill. :L everything seems serious to me. XD Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 23:16, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Idk, i always find political satire my favorite humor because it does just that. Takes the most serious of problems and ,if it's politcally correct, makes it into a humorous joke. They don't have the daily show or the Colbert report over there do they? :P Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:35, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

I don't know, I watch 'have I got news for you' and 'the daily politics' they're quite good, although the second isn't really satire, it does it every now and again, it's more cynical than anything. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 11:36, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry about Me and 4kant leaving the CNP, we just wanted to represent our actual views moving to center and democracy. Hopefully, the two parties can still work together? <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   20:14, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

No problem, you've moved towards the center, and yes we can work together I look forwards to it. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 20:52, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

Lol it happened to me to bro. I thank god lovia is the only country where you politely withraw from a party and ask for cooperation :D lol love it! Marcus/Michael Villanova 00:05, February 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Unity and prosperity is our aim and as long as Happy still holds to establishing a Lovia in this image which he seems to, then co-operation is a go. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 15:09, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

I thought you were athiest. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   08:22, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

I'm a pastafarian. I believe in da flying spaghetti monster. Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:13, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

New map game Wiki
Will you join the game- An Alternate 1921 Map Game?90.244.83.79 21:35, March 14, 2013 (UTC)

Confederate Reform
Oos's reforms for a state council are in the second chamber, look them over but hopefully you support them since you are a confederate supporter. Marcus/Michael Villanova

HAve you looked at it, read it or planning to vote on it? I think it's a fine reform! Marcus/Michael Villanova 12:09, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

SR
Please vote pro here :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:47, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Solution
A solution can be found I am certain. I have made the following statement, here:

"I would like King Dimitri I of Lovia to renounce all claims to the throne and formally step down. If only for the time being. I wish for myself to be pardoned of any crimes committed or any laws broken during my march on the capital and any subsequent fighting. When this pardon is granted I will leave the city, dismiss my Brigadiers and let the politicians decide on how to handle the situation - who should be king, who should not be, or whether we should just become a republic."

Dimitri appears to have fled the palace, to a safe location in the city. There is still unrest in the Capital but fighting has large ceazed. Although we briefly broke the barricades, we have been unable to hold onto the Palace, or keep it, as the police force was simply too large. Therefore the Palace is empty, as of right now. We are at a standstill. And we can end this situation peacefully, and with dignity, still. The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 19:39, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * I suggest we become a republic with a Hertow as a head of state. The republic should be a bit noble with noble titles though. Pierlot McCrooke 20:09, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Kunarian, please don't give it any more credibility by continuing the roleplay. I don't think this little incident deserves a place in Lovian history. --Semyon 20:12, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * That is your opinion as a private citizen, Semyon. But you are neither the head of police, nor a writer of newspaper articles. It has happened, and it happening has been widely acknowledge. Now we can end it, and we can end it peacefully. It all makes more sense this way, anyway. It is likely there will be votings, and the Monarchy could very well be abolished. If this is the case, there should at least be a proper reason for that, right? And that reason is there now. That one drop to overflow the bucket, that one spark of fire in the barrell of explosives. All of this has the same credibility as the Civil War. No, scrap that, it has MORE credibility as the involvement of UNLOR and the scale of that conflict was pretty much the most unrealistic thing ever to happen to Lovia. But it is on a far smaller scale, and it is practically already over. It's an incident that made the First Chamber concentrate on the matter. It has happened. It is happening. Even if you intensely dislike it. The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 20:20, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, Semyon, I would much prefer it if you do not attempt to decide what the members of my Brigade do or do not do. I am not making your character(s) do anything am I? The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 20:22, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * It has not been widely acknowledged. I don't acknowledge it, and I'm not entering any negotiations because I can't negotiate about an event that hasn't happened. The civil war was a different kettle of fish. I agree it was unrealistic, but certainly not as unrealistic as this, and crucially everyone including UNLOR/the government were in agreement OOC with it happening. You can't seriously expect me to believe that armed conflict has broken out over a monarch which has next to no political role whatsoever. As for your Brigade, I find that argument invalid. Do you think this edit should have been kept, because, after all, it's his Godzilla? --Semyon 20:34, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * I am pretty sure Godzilla belongs to some Japanese dude. And you may not acknowledge the event but the head of Police did acknowledge the events by attacking my Brigade. Yes, my Brigade. So did Oos, our Prime Minister. So did representatives of other wikinations. So did at least two newspapers here in Lovia. They all acknowledged the events, reported them, talked about them and acted upon them.
 * As for my terms? Kunarian can, of course, decline them altogether. Arrest me. Put me on trial. But until he either accepts, or declines, hostilities have ceazed. The only thing that has changed, now, is that the Palace has no door, it is empty and surrounded by police officers, the King is housed in another location and the matter of a Monarchy vs a Republic has come to the politicians' attention. It wasn't before. There has to be reason for it to have come back to the public's eye. And that reason, Semyon, is me. Now I will likely end up being tried for high treason. I have no illusions about Kunarian accepting my terms. None whatsoever. But please try not to push your opinion onto others a proven fact. We'll see what happens. I'm fully prepared to take the fall for this. The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 20:42, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

I think this (the entire conflict) is kind of interesting for a change, we should probably keep a version of it in history. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:46, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Yes. It has already had ramifications in Burenia and Tagog, and is a notable part of why the IWO currently is rather unstable, along with the Tagog civil conflicts, Burenia's threatened invasion, etc. 77topaz (talk) 23:26, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Southern Cross Alliance
Could you send officers to Donia Castle to protect it it's inhabitants (mainly women and children) against those crazy hunters from the SCA? The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 11:31, May 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * The Federal Police are securing the property, the inhabitants who were taken are to be taken from Charleston to Noble City and treated as suspects (meaning they won't be held in custody but will be given a place to stay until found innocent or guilty) and I am petitioning to repair the damage to the castle due to its cultural significance (definitely not as extensive as he claims in his post but a few fire bombs and sledgehammers could have hurt its beauty a bit) also those who damaged it will soon be under arrest. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 18:28, May 2, 2013 (UTC):::
 * Now crazy hunters have taken the Crown Prince of Brunant hostage... WTF?! The coup was all fine and dandy but things are escalating. This SCA is getting things out of hand massively. The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 22:02, May 2, 2013 (UTC)

Chat
Come to chat and talk to me. -Sunkist- (talk) 18:12, May 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * I will press charges against the Southern Cross Alliance for the damage done to Donia Castle. The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 18:33, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Education
Hi, you contacted me yesterday about education in Charleston and I agree with what you said. I think that the Charleston Educational Trust should keep its two schools in Charleston and its school in Clave Rock. The schools in Noble City should either be operated by either the State Government or the Department of Education. Or they could be independent, provided they offer a good education to everyone for free.

I'll put some work into the schools that I keep, and perhaps I'll help improve the others.

How does this sound?

Thanks in advance :) Frijoles333 (talk) 16:14, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

I'm going to take them over completely, you (even though you are a charity) cannot be allowed a monopoly on education. I'm glad you're going to take a greater interest in the ones you keep. Also the other schools are going to be operated privately and there will be fees, as they have to fund the quality education they will provide one way or another. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 16:31, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

Ok that's fine by me, and by the way I never wanted to have a monopoly, I just wanted to address a need for schools Frijoles333 (talk) 17:02, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

I understand that, most people just get over excited about things and go too far, it's fine. :) Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 17:14, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

I've just made edits to the schools, and the Charleston Educational Trust saying that the schools have become independent. I will continue to expand the schools the trust still operates. Frijoles333 (talk) 17:06, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

Fantastic, thanks for that. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 17:08, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

Good will offering :P
With suspicion of knowing it will be somewhat rejected, I'm hoping to run on a joint ticket with the CNP for train village. A new party perse for the Train Village area which would support implement your goals for the area. So far it's been going well there and since we both strongly support devolution it might be good. It's up to you. Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:00, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * You want to run yourself with an endorsement from me? if so I'll have to politely refuse, although the idea is nice for areas where you might do better or I might, if we work together with a Labour/CNP alliance in certain states that is. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 23:05, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * No, no not an endorsement at all. Just since I mostly support everything your doing with the state (except the state currency) Why not run together for these local elections as the "Sylvania Party"? We can implement the reforms and such. Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:08, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * We could both run and then after the elections sit together as the Sylvania Party. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 23:10, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a plan. Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:12, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Also the place of residence for the local elections is for the user right? Not the character? Marcus/Michael Villanova 00:56, May 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Of course. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 01:04, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

SP logo
Can you make a simple logo? If so thanks. Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:22, May 24, 2013 (UTC)

Actually I have an idea. How bout we take the Farmer's Force, and turn it into the Sylvania Party. But when it runs in the Charleston Area it's the FF. It supports centrist nationalistic policies and such? No? Idk it'd save time an such. Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:25, May 24, 2013 (UTC)

Ministry logos
Reminder on those. About half are still red links. :P —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 18:16, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

=( —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 01:31, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry, I'm just dealing with the local elections atm. :) Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 08:42, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Hey
I registered somebody called Samuel DeHenti for the SCP, but I used Dave Leskromento's residence for him, is that okay? <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  13:52, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

That's great, that's what you're supposed to do, glad to see you back. Also you might want to use this election as a time to show the SCPs policies. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 13:54, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

Chat
Be sure to enter the chatroom. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  13:59, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

I agree. That was roughly what I already was thinking, in fact. 77topaz (talk) 20:12, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

Er....
...my character Ferenc Szóhad has multiple residences, one of them in Noble City for as long as I can remember. I used to be called SjorskingmaWikistad, remember? Cadaro (talk) 14:41, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * O wait, I see now. I misread the rules. I interpreted electoral area automatically as Sylvania. My bad. Ignore this... Cadaro (talk) 14:45, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * I just saw this, no worries this is the first election that takes on this method. Graet to have you participating. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 14:58, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Exchange
Would you exchange minor votes? <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   14:52, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah that'd be okay. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 15:00, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Caught in the act. Vote trading. The Sovereign Democratic Union won't take this lightly :P Cadaro (talk) 15:28, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not really vote trading, I asked him if he would vote for me and he said he would if I voted for him, there's nothing really wrong there. I'm not voting for him just because he'd vote for me, it was either him or Donia. Besides I don't know what you could even try and make of this. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 15:33, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * "it was either him or Donia"... oh, the humanity! The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 15:46, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's okay :'( we can make it work! :P Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 15:52, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Haha I was just joking guys :) Cadaro (talk) 18:04, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well stop it! my heart was racing and the propoganda department was ready to go into overdrive :L Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 18:18, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Can you repeal the ordenance on not being about to vote for the same party twice, it is undemocratic to tell someone there second choice has to be someone else. Basically I can't help but feel since Labour is the only Party with two people running it is targeted against us either directly or indirectly. I hope you change this. Marcus/Michael Villanova 14:00, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * No. It's very democratic to say that you cannot create block votes. It's undemocratic to allow any party (Labour or not) to stand two or more candidates and then just vote for their own standing candidates. It'd be like having a preference vote in the USA where you get 3 votes, and you can only vote once for republican, libertarian or all the other parties and can vote three times for the democrats. This ruling will be held in all local elections to ensure people are there to help the area and not to just vote within their party, I will also be campaigning on this point so that it be within law for all elections, federal, state or local. I support equal opportunity for all parties no matter their size. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 14:13, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

By that logic Britain is undemocratic. In many local councils you choose Three candidates for your council, you can vote Labour-Labour-Labour or Lib Dem-Lib Dem- Lib Dem. This is just taking away a citizen's right to choose. Again how does a classical liberal, someone who is suppose to defend the natural rights of citizens going to stop the right to choose what they want. Article 1A.2 States "Lovia is a democratic and social state, governed by the rule of law, in which human dignity, the citizens' rights and freedoms, the free development of human personality, justice and political pluralism represent supreme values, in the spirit of the democratic traditions of the Lovian people and shall be guaranteed." I have the right to vote as I please no matter what you think, this Party unlike another, hasn't broken the law or obstructed democracy yet that other party is allowed to run!? Again I please ask you change the law, it's undemocratic in many ways. Marcus/Michael Villanova 14:29, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Britain is undemocratic, surely by now you should know that. This is not taking away a citizens right to choose as this also needs to be considered OOC and IC.


 * IC, we work by party list systems, it is simply asking you which Labour party list you prefer, Marcels or yours, people have currently chosen marcel more but your list will still get representation. If we worked by voting for individuals then everyone should be allowed to stand ten fake candidates one for each position. I wonder if anyone would vote for a candidate that wasn't their own then?


 * OOC, we need to clamp down on this thing you and a few other parties have a habit of doing which is standing a load of candidates, and then voting only within your party so that you don't have to vote for anyone else. Half of these candidates never even vote or do you support how inactive the current congress is? We need to make it unprofitable for people to just spam candidates that never vote.


 * And don't be silly, the constitution can be interpreted any which way anyone wants, the only parts that matter when it concerns actual proceedings are the finer details such as how we elect state legislatures and their powers (a reform utterly blocked by parties that spam candidates that are never here). And you CAN vote as you please, maybe you should try standing a single candidate you can throw your weight behind rather than spamming.


 * Anyways I've yet to hear an actual reason backed up by some good logic why it's undemocratic. And don't throw the multi-interpretable bits of the constitution at me, I've read it enough times. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 14:42, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Well, the problem with that sort of party list in character thinking is that people might just make two separate parties that are exactly the same, allowing them to bypass it. Other than that, I think you are correct. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:09, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Honestly every system has it's flaws. But we can further arm against that bypass by simply making some requirements when it comes to operating your party, very simple things but things that would stop people who have no intention of sticking around. Plus that sort of regulation would fit in IC, it's just an idea currently I'm sticking with my only vote once policy but it is an idea. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 15:13, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't get the whole "ten fake candidates argument". Your voting for a person with a party which translates into seats and other candiates, and the voters know that. What's to stop me then from runing as an independent and just switching Parties? Fine I'll do it. I mean you are simply stoping me from supporting from wanting to see my representation in congress (by me I mean through the power of democracy). You also claimed it is for inactivity reasons yet it is your side creating it! You can't deny the fact most on the right have been inactive by doing just that, supporting MCP or LMP or CDP and other conservative/classical liberal candidates. I've proposed an actual solution in terms of state elections to stop that because it plauges our system. Your saying "oh this will take away the incentive to stop support inactive candidates of the same party" but my party has two active politicians, and I want to support them.  The logic backed by my argument is the basic definition of democracy "the right to choose politicians which will best represent my opinions in a legislative body" and that is all I want. Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:23, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * The ten fake candidates arguments relates to your IC argument. Also again you aren't voting for a person, you vote for a person in the Governor elections, not within the federal elections or these elections, you vote for party lists. Also the sentence about representation in congress I couldn't understand what you meant there.


 * And here we go again, Marcus people are going to (and already are) sick of your whole blanket argument stuff. "My side"? seriously? This kind of thing isn't about left or right, this is about making congress full of committed people who are active and contributing to Lovia. Your attempts at political points scoring aren't going anywhere here.


 * You've proposed a solution? where? seriously, you have nothing written, write something and then we can talk but currently I am testing a solution and it is going rather well at the moment, I have something, I have evidence.


 * Also you have two active politicians? who are you counting there? because Frijoles is semi-active, we will see how much he can contribute after the Train Village Local Elections, when he has a seat and has responsibility. And you can vote for them and support them, but now you can't stand all your users characters there and just vote for them, which would defeat any workable election system (and especially local election systems where there are less users with less votes so more room for abuses).


 * Also we all should have the right to choose politicians which will best represent our opinions, however this is a wikia with characters instead of people and users in control of multiple characters we need to consider how that affects the democratic system. If we were to be just like real life then surely (retrying the fake candidates argument with you) I could stand as many characters as I have votes and just vote for them? everyone could do that, no, we need to be serious about stopping candidate spamming and ensuring that this is a wikia made by actives, for the actives and of the actives. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 15:51, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * But you do vote for a person thats the thing. You vote for a person in these elections too, like how I voted for Myself and in translation a vote for who I want to bring to congress. You can't even  run with ten characters, you run as one main one, thats the whole rule of this game, and it's worked, don't act like it's otherwise. But your side is the one. It's not point scoring, it's not trying to gain on something for my benfit, it's trying to point out the hypocracy. You state theres a inactivity problem, yes I agree with that. But you can't call out others when it's those closest to your party, who get support from those closest to your party who create the inactivity problem supporting inactive politicians. But then it doesn't help when you impose the new "one vote per party" rule and it only effects us in these elections, and parties with more than one member. It's easier to state it when you don't have nobody else in the party.
 * By what I meant was at the state level was the sentance in the first chamber. I have a problem with inactivity no matter what party or politician, and that's my solution not beating up on democracy and those who recieve support from the populous. Yes, and I'm for the actives, you suggest penalize those who are because they are ideologically close. It's just sad. You of all people know that you can't run more than once in an election so don't act like you could by saying you'll run "ten candidates". The plan that works would be allowing full fledged democracy for the citizens of the nation to vote whenever and however they like, and allowing all to run. But removing those who are inactive and replacing them with active users. Your plan is control the votes, control the politicians. I get the politicians part but why take it out on democracy? Marcus/Michael Villanova 16:39, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * No Marcus, you vote for characters, and users at that by proxy, but IC you vote for a party list. And I see you still haven't gotten the point I was trying to make.


 * And yes it is point scoring, and no I'm not hypocritical, you're quite ignorant if you think that another persons actions are mine, most people will agree I'm one of the most active users who has rarely missed a chance to vote and is working on vital legislation that without, this country can't even function.


 * And yes I can call you and others out on it, because again Marcus you and your brainwashed mind are at fault, this isn't about left and right I repeat (and please let this get through), this is about commitment to principle and commitment to making Lovia a more active place. Honestly it seems like you want me to throw this rule away so that you can compound more votes into your party.


 * And Marcus when you say "that's my solution not beating up on democracy and those who recieve support from the populous" you still haven't given me a solution, you've waffled, you've tried to attack my position but no solution. And by the way I hardly think that it's popular support you have if you are only getting votes from within your party, that's another reason why this rule has been instated. And again (this is getting tiresome) you seem to have misunderstood my fake candidates argument, at least Time understood it.


 * One last reply to your last point, you are a hypocrite and this big talk you're trying is failing. You do not want all to be allowed to run, you threatened to stop the IGP from running, because you didn't agree with them, how is that democracy?! I allowed anyone to run and I simply put a rule in that is a counter part to only being able to vote for one candidate. And don't play strawmen with me saying that I (like this is all some sort of conspiracy) am trying to control the votes and the politicians, what I am doing is stopping parties from spamming candidates. Seriously sort out your argument. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 17:09, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying your actions are yours, but the fact is, and that's why I said "around your party" ideologically, support those who are inactive. The point that was tried to be made was, don't call me out or those who try to defend democracy when it's those on you side, yes your ideological side who have ruined the system with inactivity. Your so brainwashed you don't realize when there's an attack on democracy. I want people who I think will best represent my views in Congress, and your saying that this is some how brainwashing? Again disgusting, you've just told me "And by the way I hardly think that it's popular support you have if you are only getting votes from within your party, that's another reason why this rule has been instated." So even if your ideologically opposed to someone you can't tell them not to vote for those within there own party, you can't make them not express there freedom by telling them you can't support your own party no matter what you think. You've forgotten that.
 * You've also forgotten the law is something you need to abide by, the supreme court ruled the party undemocratic istelf and to vandalize and ruin the wiki. But then again you'r land army fought along side them in the Civil War so I understand the agreement with letting them in. The law however, didn't outlaw facism in speech, but the party for it's infringment on other's rights. The UNS was law abiding so it was allowed. "Spamming candidates' give me a break. Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:48, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Are you trying to say I support those who are inactive? because if TimeMaster, Topaz and Oos are inactive then hell yes I do. Ideologically I'm around them too, in fact I've had a coalition with all of them at some point in some form. And again your whole argument is based on trying to point score with your silly "left right" thing that always seems to be going on in your head.


 * Also seriously I cannot understand your second point about asking people not to support people ideologically opposed to you. And don't talk to me about law, you seem to think that a court can change the law, it's undemocratic to ban a party and therefore completely against the constitution, if you did take the IGP to court you'd be paying their lawyer his wage by the end of it. Marcus to be honest you aren't even making sense, you've gone completely off topic with this one and are clearly getting irate about this whole thing. Don't reply to this without showing me your solution in detail or I'll delete the reply. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 18:20, June 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah and I didn't say that. Frankly a system that works is one in place + making laws to remove inactive politicians, not your plan to stop democracy in hopes it solves the problem. In your solution people would only make political parties to keep themelves in it and have no other users in it and then just support each other, we'd have 10-12 parties. Yup, and i'll keep you too that, considering all the votes are going to the CNP and IGP there won't be must dissagreemnt, try it on a larger scale when you have three times as many people and when the votes are largely more distributed to more inactive people (like from those smaller inactive parties) Marcus/Michael Villanova 16:47, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * The system we have already has laws to remove inactive politicians, making that more extensive really won't change much. And really? "My plan to stop democracy"? by not allowing you to vote just within your party and create a block vote no one else really supports?


 * And more strawmen arguments, And by the way what is wrong with people having their own parties? or are you afraid that it would mean you couldn't get a bit group together and try to revive the days of Walden and CPL.nm where you ousted perfectly good people who were doing the wiki good from their positions to replace them with your loyal party members and where you silenced descent by not allowing people a voice in government.


 * So now because votes are going to parties that might (dare I say it!) agree with each other occasionally. And can I just say that on a larger scale of course a few votes would go to inactives, no system is perfect, but this system would completely make spamming candidates pointless and therefore would mean less inactives. Anyway I'm kind of fed up with you throwing strawmen at me so reply with your solution in detail or like above, I will delete your reply. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 18:20, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your support vote! :) 77topaz (talk) 22:35, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, I was told by Marcus to alert to the fact that Rahkam built a new residence in Sylvania. Just letting you know. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 20:36, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Awesome. Thanks for the info, I'll hold on till then. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 01:08, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Offer?
Well the offer still stands. If you want the whole Sylvania Coalition for the city can stand to pass your legislation for the town. Also any polling this week? Marcus/Michael Villanova 00:48, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

Polling being done now, and may I suggest the coalition be called the Train Village Coalition. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 13:40, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

works for me! Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:17, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

Well the people mostly agreed with it. And I already have two bills ready for TV (one with a purpose, the other for nonsense) Marcus/Michael Villanova 14:56, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Remember the local councils have limited power, mainly limited to executive action. Big spending is less of a thing too, more of directed spending. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 21:39, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Hey for the next Lovian Times Polling can you do a flavour poll on who you'd vote for in Clymene (RLP-SCP-GP-OTHER)? Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:22, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * YES! WILL DO! finally some one else uses the unique private polling that only the Lovian times can provide. :D Spread the word, your polling solutions come from us! Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 21:39, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Haaa will do xD just wanna see the early situation for the RLP and what we could do. Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:09, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh and two more things. If you can add the polling to be in done in part with Clymene Today and holding polling for Seven as well since CT sells there which would be most likely Ind.-SCP-CDP? Marcus/Michael Villanova 14:25, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Ah yes, here you go. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 22:35, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Al-Asmari Estate, July 1, 2013
 * Rakham Tarik Al-Asmari

I'm sorry, I have yet to come up with a location. I was planning on the estate being in Thameen, but until one of the politicians allow me to place in as a neighborhood in one of the cities, I'm at an impass. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 14:41, June 22, 2013 (UTC)