Forum:The Pub

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nl:Forum:De kroegro:RoWikicity:Cafenea Welcome to The Pub! This is the general meeting place in Lovia. Inhabitants can make public announcements, have a friendly chat with some copatriots, or discuss crucial issues in Lovian politics or business. Speeches can also be made at Speakers' Corner. All archives of The Pub can be found here.

Holiday
I know I'm spamming the pub quite lately, but I need to mention that I'm going on holiday tomorrow, for three weeks, to Scotland. I don't think (and I don't feel the need to try over there) that my iPod Touch can connect to any WiFi hotspot in Scotland, so I'll probably be offline for the same period as my holiday lasts. SjorskingmaWikistad 18:14, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Have fun and maybe upload a nice picture upon return - and I don't think Scotland is thát medieval. I'm sure they have internet access over there. The place you're staying probably even has a website.  07:00, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I know, I have been in Scotland last year, but no connection or whatsoever. And surely NOT in Skye SjorskingmaWikistad 10:19, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, then my image of our scottish friends is more incorrect than I thought. They don't all wear kilts to, do they? 16:46, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I once wore a kilt. It feels... liberating! Dr. Magnus 16:58, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ha Good!Marcus Villanova[[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 22:40, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Jumping the Gun
I am already taking the census even though the bill has not yet been put into effect this way well have the number ASAP ALso Please until the end of the month do not buy a house it just complicates things! Thanks! Marcus Villanova 20:50, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

'''Also i'll be kepping yall posted and giving you updates like this one: NOble City Population is slightly up! YAy!Marcus Villanova 21:02, July 24, 2010 (UTC)'''

OMFG The population for Kings is 7,041 Just letting you know! Marcus Villanova 21:32, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Not crazy, considering Newhaven is the second biggest city. About buying houses: I've spoken to a new user recently and if he should return to the site he could buy a house, couldn't he? Let's say that people can buy houses, but must always tell you so you can update. 07:38, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Sure! But It's really cool how are population is in the 30,000's! Marcus Villanova 18:36, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Arena Football League
Well i just want to know somthing! It states on some of the orignal teams that they play american football well i want to know if anyone woukld want to start a Lovian Indoor Football League! Or the LIFL so anyone in? Marcus Villanova 20:01, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * As always, I'll pass for the sports. But I do support more variation, maybe we'll be able to compete at the next Olympics.  08:56, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * In London! Yeah! (probably cost to much for me to go tho' :- @Marcus: Sorry, I don't know anything about American football. Semyon E. Breyev 09:27, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Are they in London? Then I only have to cross the Channel.  09:51, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Con il tuo speedo :p Jon Johnson 14:06, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, è troppo freddo per nuotare con il mio speedo! Forse con un mantello? 16:30, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yea it's sad American Football is the dumbest sport but kinda watchable so... no one else plays it but me and my 200 IQ There is a small league in Germany, France, England, and Canada, oh and Japan! And there was a pretty sucseful NFL league Europa league in Europe but most of the teams at the end of the league were in Germany and the Netherlands! Marcus Villanova[[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 20:56, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Update
I have been away for a while and hoped someone could inform me on what I missed? A quick summary of the main issues will do. Harold Freeman 07:42, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, i'm new could you help me too Olaf Engelund 08:07, July 30, 2010 (UTC) //forgot to sign//
 * I wished I could help, but I was hardly here myself. Some of the things I know that happened:
 * Someone built extensive new railways, without permission or so...
 * People built a couple of new towns and so.
 * No new bills were signed into law. Martha Van Ghent 08:18, July 30, 2010


 * (UTC)


 * She is right, but we need new laws like the census law... I won't change July beacuse that's the perfect time! When no one is around, so no one will buy a new house... and i'm on everyday! Marcus Villanova[[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 14:51, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Facebook
Why does the system always wants me to link to my facebook account when I want to log in? I do not have a Facebook account and I am (vooralsnog) nog intending to make one. --Lars Washington 07:54, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * When I log in, it just appears, it is not aggressive if you understand me :p Jon Johnson 07:59, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just another billion dollar business deal between Wikia and Facebook ;) Martha Van Ghent 08:14, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Good to know, so I do not need to worry then. --Lars Washington 08:44, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think it's kinda sad. 09:01, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * What do you mean? --Lars Washington 09:16, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * I just don't like the Facebook logo dancing up and down my screen every time I log in. Luckily I have ticked the 'remember my login'-option. 09:22, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah thet shit was confusing! I have a FB account and was already logged in so instead of linking my account to "Crystalbeast09" it made a new account and then Facebook closed and sayed it did not register! WTF! IDK how to even link it or what the advantages are to doing it! Marcus Villanova[[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 14:49, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

LLCP! Changing for the better!
The LLCP is Beacoming Simplier and becoming the Labor Party! In our new logo and name we have all colors!
 * Red - Liberalism and socialism in Europe and shows our great srength!
 * Blue - Liberalism in the States and the calm seas of Lovia!
 * Green - Showing our Liberal-Libertaranism and our movement for a green enviorment!
 * Purple - Purple is a common color used for liberalism in Netherlands and Belgium showing Lovia's roots from the begining.
 * Any changes to the content too? Or are you only changing the logo/name? 08:42, August 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * --Lars Washington 11:54, August 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * @Yuri- IDK i Joined the WLP! Marcus Villanova[[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 17:07, August 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nice move; it seems the WLP is on the move!  06:20, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I see the has disappeared. Anyone able willing to create this template for the collection? --Lars Washington 10:16, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * There you go. I used a deep purple rather then a bright one, I hope you don't mind? 12:45, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Where is a yellow love? Pierlot McCrooke 14:01, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * My dearest Pierlot McCrooke, You are an absolute *star* . For making this I give you the ultimate .  --Lars Washington 15:45, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Census Act
Well i've listened and here you go the month has changed from July to August! Please vote Yea! or for the Census Act in the Second Chamber! Thanks from Marcus Villanova 18:29, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Politics
Does everybody need to join a political party, because I think everybody does Olaf Engelund 16:34, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't at first, but the cabal made me do it (haha) This is really funny you know--Lars Washington 16:38, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Check out List of political parties! Marcus Villanova[[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 16:41, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * You don't need to, but if you want things get done, it could help to join a party, please check out CPL.nm, maybe something for you Jon Johnson 18:08, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Or the WLP we're better and awesome! LOLZ! Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 20:56, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * @Marcus: I don't deny the WLP is an awesome party (as is the CPL.nm) but to give it the classification of 'better' sure is a subjective judgement.
 * @Olaf: It is easy to join a party these days; a small outlay:
 * Liberal/Democrat but economic right = join the LD
 * Social-liberal/environmentalist = join the WLP (formerly libertarian)
 * Post-Soviet communism/socialism = join the CPL.nm
 * Conservative/christian moral = join the CCPL
 * Those are the main parties. For extremists of the right we have the (inactive) IGP and there also is a minor radical socialist party, the NLS. 07:15, August 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, thanks, I'll join a party then, since all together is better then one apart Olaf Engelund 11:48, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Joke Political Party
There's been alot of talk about joke political parties in Lovia. AND WE NEED to make one! We've all been up tight lately and we need to laugh! So any ideas? Anyone can join the party and still be in a real political party. So any ideas? Just leave your fake party and your sig, and maybe we might have two, like funny rivals! Marcus Villanova WLP 16:40, August 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * (Here's an easy one) Surprise Party - Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 16:40, August 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Dream Changing Party Pierlot McCrooke 17:38, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Very good! Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 21:29, August 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Fancy Hollywood Movie Star With A Big Heart For Animals Not For Profit Party - 06:54, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Love it! Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 16:07, August 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Revolutionary Conservatives: change to preserve! - 07:29, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Politicaly Inccorect, lol Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 16:07, August 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Italian Movie Party - politics get dolce! - 16:05, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Love it since i'm Italian! Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 16:07, August 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Goat party. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 06:06, August 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Main Man Party, a tribute to Dustin Jon Johnson 10:43, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * D-U-S-T-I-N, my main man! 11:01, August 7, 2010 (UTC)



Wikia Staff Blog: Achievements
I discovered this on the Wikia Staff Blog: http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Sarah_Manley/Announcing_Achievements_-_Edit_your_way_to_the_top. I thought it intriguing, so I shall share it with you all. -- 07:57, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds like modern day diseases have found their way to wikia; it is obviously based on a cheap psychology of reward. This so called 'friendly competition' will lead to a cult of status symbolism and the suffocation of creativity. I don't like the new plans. 09:58, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * I edit Wikination too much anyway . Semyon E. Breyev 13:57, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Help?
Since the LD is gone and I do not have the needed vigor to make us liberals a new home I hoped anyone had an idea on where I am to go now? Is there a plan for a new liberal party or should I join another one? Harold Freeman 09:27, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Walden, or you can refound the LD Pierlot McCrooke 09:30, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I guess the CPL.nm doesn't really sound attractive to you but you are welcome. You should just read some programs (Walden, CPL.nm, CCPL). 09:34, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * The LD is gone and there is a reason for that. The classic liberal party does not score well with the Lovians and as a grown up man I must accept that. I will read some programs as yuri suggested in the hope to find a match. Harold Freeman 09:36, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry to disagree, if I may. The only reason the LibDems failed, was lack of identity. No leader, no good image, a dull party program, silly anti-communist propaganda (hello, McCarthy?)... There could have been place for true Classical Liberals, I'm sure. But not in the LD. If you find another hardcore liberal, you could easily build up a storng dark-blue party. If that's what you want of course :) 17:14, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, please. How can my commie party thrive without an image of the enemy threatening us? ;D 17:16, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Haha . I have a notion that the Federal Elections in January will turn out more interesting than all past elections combined! 17:17, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * This LD party was one big sham; inactive, dull and without much originality or 'new concepts and ideas'. I am suprised it took so long for it to fall apart, too. BastardRoyale 17:20, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I am confident the left will do just fine... 17:25, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Of course we will. We will Crush the Capitalist Beast and turn the whole world red. BastardRoyale 17:27, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Come with us :p Olaf Engelund 14:32, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I do like the communist party because they have a nice page and some very capable people. The only problem is that your program is too radical for me. Harold Freeman 08:05, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Good try olaf, but next think of the fact that he's an ultra liberal :p off course we could re-educate him Jon Johnson 08:07, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I am not that ultra liberal my friend. I am just not into big government control. Harold Freeman 08:13, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think what you just said is the main ideology of political liberalism Jon Johnson 08:16, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yes I am a liberal but I do not mind taxation or payments for the unemployed. Harold Freeman 08:19, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * This are again some economic aspects you see, i try not to confuse economy and politics Jon Johnson 08:33, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Do communists not believe that those two are tied together? Harold Freeman 08:36, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * They are tied together but I (calling myself more socialist than communist) think the two should be split up or at least economy should be a level beneath politics and not as it is now one above Jon Johnson 08:39, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * What is a communist anyway? I am not that much of a philosopher but my personal experiences are what I base myself on and maybe this individual approach makes me a liberal. Harold Freeman 08:42, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * It could of course, my definition of a communist is rather a skeptical one: it are those willing to believe that Marx was right and try to work to an ideal world which Marx provided, of course the central marxian idea couldn't remain so many variants came up and the so called communism is one, i'm not saying that those fighting for it are idiots but they are naive in my opinion; i'd rather see some state control not to many and yet freedom for the people themselves. My focus lays especially in the social aspect: I'd like to provide equal social standards Jon Johnson 08:48, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Communist is a stretchable concept but a marxist is someone who believes we can satisfy everyones needs by organizing society upon principles acquired by reason. Educating the people to give them the means to use that reason and emancipate themselves is the true goal of any marxist. Thát is the core of Marx' teachings. 08:52, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed, well explained, you see i'm more of a socialist. Btw i found a great modern version of the bandiera rossa!! Jon Johnson 08:54, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * So Jon is a social realist and Yuri is a naive red crusader? Sounds like the CPL is a fun party. Harold Freeman 08:55, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Naive but noble. We sure are a unique bunch. @Jon: really? Is it in Italian? 08:56, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's what we are Jon Johnson 08:57, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm now downloading it, i've also found a modern oh bella ciao version too, yes it's in italian! Jon Johnson 09:00, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Banda Bassotti right?  09:06, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yaps, great! Jon Johnson 09:07, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Liberal Union
I created the Liberal Union out of the Capitalist Party and the remnants of the LD. All who call themselves liberal or sympathize with the liberal views are welcome. Our main goal is to be a blue counterweight to the socialist and conservative parties in Congress. Harold Freeman 10:32, August 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * I wish you good luck; you'll need it. After all, we do intent to Crush the Capitalist Beast, so beware... BastardRoyale 10:45, August 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * I do not like capitalism because it acts as if it is okay to make a war in a distant country to raise the oil prices. Liberalism is more than just economy, it is about personal freedom.
 * You are like Archie Bunker: a live and let live type of guy! BastardRoyale 10:50, August 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * I do not know him but his philosophy sure sounds fine. Harold Freeman 10:52, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

The importance of family... law!
It was about time we had a decent legislation surrounding marriage, as recently remarked by several users. I wrote a Marriage Act on my sandpit and threw in legal cohabiting and parenthood/adoption. Soon we will all be able to found our own little wiki family. Please comment! 09:55, August 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes! Finally! Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 16:39, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Offer
To all people from the book business or those interested in just any kind of business, Libertan Goodwin Publishings is about to publish ''[http://stad.wikia.com/wiki/Kopstuk._Leven_en_tijd_van_Mama_Luigi Kopstuk. Leven en tijd van Mama Luigi] (English: Top Dog. The Life and Times of Mama Luigi''), the biography of Mama Luigi, who former Wikistad-users will know of, a big mob boss who was involved and executed during the Second Civil War in Libertas. Perhaps one or some of the Dutch users here would be interested in translating the book for Lovia??? Goodwin is an international publisher (which actually started in Lovia) but is always interested in working together with others (and has done so for instance with the Libertan publisher Esdoorntje). Have a nice day ;) Echo cho 12:51, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Top Dog. The Life and Times of Mama Luigi would make a fine novel, I am positive about it. For as far as I can read it it looks very promising. What about a film, or a mini-series? Aim for the stars! BastardRoyale 16:05, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * That could be interesting as well, seeing it turned into a epic Lovian film instead of having the book translated into (Lovian) English. Especially since the movie business in Lovia seems to be doing more than okay. Thanks for the suggestion, BR! K_gitaar.png Echo cho 16:47, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well thank you! New(ly returned) members are always more then welcome, expecially if they bring with them ideas like these. Famous Lovians could play parts in the movie and help funding it, to make everybody excited about this movie. Maybe you could even ask the King to play a major role, or you could try and make an actual trailer and upload it on youtube (Villanova & Freeman over here have done that several times). Good luck! BastardRoyale 17:42, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

*not Freeman, but McCandless. 17:59, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think my last video beat his but his did include Eddie/Intothewild music but then again my included 3 seconds of PUmp it from the Black Eyed Peas and some actual footage of real peeps! Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 22:30, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * I want to make a vid too but the concept never seems to work out well. I don't get further then some scrappy paper notes... 07:43, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sounds like a lotta work too :p I don't know, I might one day try and put sth together. Anyway, if any movie production company is interested in Top Dog here, they are more than welcome to begin production! ;) See you around! K_gitaar.png Echo cho 08:10, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Perhaps its better to translate the novel first so that the story gains some recognition. Then after a few months, make the movie. :-) BastardRoyale 08:44, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Poll
Okay I don't care if you vote twice or whateves this poll is just for fun and i'll put it on the HEMPPAC page as a nationwide poll!

001. Would you support Cannibis Legalization?
Yes - 53.85%

No - 46.15%

002. Would you support Medical Cannibis Legalization?
Yes - 75.00%

No - 25.00%

so the poll is done! Voting is done Thnx! Marcus Villanova WLP 17:02, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Comments!
Can vote Until August 20th of friday This poll is apart of LIP! Marcus Villanova WLP 21:50, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Stations
I saw that people want to delete the few stations that are not in urban area. I think those stations are actually useful. When I was in Scotland, there were even more remote stations, mainly intended for some farms or even just only for the purpose of hiking in otherwise inaccesible area. What harm can it do if those stations keep existing? SjorskingmaWikistad 10:22, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * In lovia you can do every thong by foot! Lovia is a small archipelago!! And besides trains and stuff now belong to a national company so they will decide Jon Johnson 12:44, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * PRC is the national company, Yuri and me decided. SjorskingmaWikistad 12:48, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * No it isn't, only congress can decide, and their busy wright now! Yuri isn't holy Jon Johnson 12:49, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm part of the ****ing congress. SjorskingmaWikistad 12:57, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Then vote! Jon Johnson 13:11, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * There is no vote on stations or something like that. I spent hours on making a railway map and writing railway articles, and you guys want to delete it all. Btw, why can't we keept the Pacific Railroad Company, since it's already owning all railways, and owned by the state. It's silly to estabilish an whole new company that is only different in name. SjorskingmaWikistad 13:50, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not owned by the state, and thanks to unify the railways, thanks to make a gorgeous looking map, but some stations did not need to be added (no voting, no need, no...) you work really hard but we need to communicate on everything we do! Jon Johnson 15:16, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * This is easy: we have two companies and at the moment Congress is voting to make it one public company. Only Congress has the power to decide. 15:59, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't fell like getting involed but I support SW, we don't have that much highways andtrains are green-ish! Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 21:23, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Yuri. Btw: Sjors, please don't violate my right to ownership. PRC is only and only owned by Walker Inc, of which I am the primary owner. And yes, ONLY CONGRESS has the right to decide. We were all elected to Congress: that doesn't mean we can all do whatever we like... 21:58, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Medina Sod
The newest of the newest, let's go bowling at medina sod, find a partner and win the contest! Jon  THE DUDE   Johnson  13:57, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

NBFV
If you like bowling with your buddies and want to do something to save the world, than join Nihilists Bowling for Vietnam! We like hanging out with our friends down the ally and throwing a ball to make this world a better place. No obligations, just fun! (we will also send a team to the above mentioned competition) 15:21, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Haha . Funny things, fellas! 17:20, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

More LIP Polling
Yes - 57%

No - 43%

So vote! from LIP Marcus Villanova WLP 19:30, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oh almost forgot... this poll ends August 27th so Vote! Marcus Villanova WLP 19:13, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Okay Polling's done! Marcus Villanova WLP 00:12, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Tonight in Portland!




Facebook
Folks, I have a question about this linking thing of Wikia and Facebook. I have tried everything to get rid of this advertising (my personal interpretation) to link the facebook and wikia accounts. Without success as you might well image... As I stated before, I have no intention to make any facebookaccount. Furthermore, I have been reading in the newspaper (Fdelaplace will be happy to read this !) there is now the "places" link on Facebook. Meaning, friends of friends not familiar with the site settings know where everyone else is living. This is what I call schending van de privacy. I hope all of you know what y're are doing when combining the accounts. This is serious businezz. --&#123;&#123;SUBST:User:Aesopos/HT}} 11:52, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * It is important to be careful with FB and its privacy policies. I want to stress, however, that:
 * there's no obligation to link your Wikia with your FB. I don't do it and I think many don't.
 * the "Facebook Places" option is only in the US; also it is an option: you don't have to participate.
 * But you are right that FB is on the edge of violating our privacy... 14:19, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Glad to note my concern is taken notice of. --&#123;&#123;SUBST:User:Aesopos/HT}} 14:30, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * As a side comment: the CEO of Google recently admitted that they register any move you make. All pages you ever visit, the very words I'm typing here,... Big Brother is watching! The article (in De Morgen) even suggested that some people wont be able to get certain jobs due to their former online activities. 07:05, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I must admit, in some cases this is a good thing... (diegenen die het niet zo goed met ons menen) --&#123;&#123;SUBST:User:Aesopos/HT}} 07:37, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I was just thinking: I say a lot of crazy things out there that could turn against me... but then again I never liked conformism too much anyway.  07:40, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * @Yuri- smae thing with some high schools and colleges checking your IP and looking at what you post, somtimes it gets scary! Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 17:52, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * It is like expelling or firing someone because they said they didn't like you. It may be stupid because you know they are going to find out but it still remains quite fascist. Why can't we dislike someone but still have respect for that person? 06:32, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * yea like we do to you! ! But it did happen, if you see WLP Video 2# the taller boy person-friend almost got expelled for having a Youtube account!...Schools can be so stupid! Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]]
 * Luckily I live in Europe, they wouldn't dare to kick you out for having an account. 06:34, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

State Elections - It's time to get serious!
(I posted this on another page)

Okay so we kinda talked about this in the past but we need to have state elections, We're almost done with state reform and summer Vaca is almost done! So anytime is good for me but what times are good with all you! I say the month of November! I think that we finalize candidate stuff in October and get it all set! Do we need to get this approved by congress? If so were all set! Dimi wants October, Medev wants November, so this is up to everyone so lets vote! Just put a and Sig next to the Month you want the elections to be in! Marcus Villanova WLP 16:34, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

September

 * -- 17:50, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * I definitely prefer September if I'm not the only one. Semyon E. Breyev 20:49, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * BastardRoyale 09:08, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

October

 * , tho' if September is seriously possible, I would prefer that. (The sooner the better ) Semyon E. Breyev 17:01, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * 17:07, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * This poll has no official meaning. Congress can only decide. 17:07, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * True but it gives congress somthing to think about! Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 17:12, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 16:34, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * You changed, Marcus? Semyon E. Breyev 17:35, August 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Jon  THE DUDE   Johnson  19:24, August 24, 2010 (UTC) it's my birthday month, partying twice would be nice
 * 06:10, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Perfect compromise: we start the candidacies in September and start voting in October. 16:12, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * --&#123;&#123;SUBST:User:Aesopos/HT}} 16:30, August 25, 2010 (UTC) I follow the majority.
 * SjorskingmaWikistad 08:12, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Martha Van Ghent 08:39, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Final Comments
So I think congress Should start Candidatures in September and start Voting in September?It seems most people want that! Marcus Villanova WLP 16:47, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

LIP is back with Degrassi?
Nah not Degrassi (But i want seasons 1-10 on DVD!) but hears a random question, with sports legilation on the table and i was earcing arcives to see and here is a random poll about sports

Lovian Boules - 38%

Rugby - 8 %

Soccer - 8%

Basketball - 8%

Somthing Else - 38%

polling done September 5th!!! So vote! Marcus Villanova WLP 21:03, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * I want table tennis as our national sport, it is way underrated. Harold Freeman 07:46, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's lol, really? Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 16:50, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * So were done! It seems like people liked Lovian Boules but Every other sport combined got 62%, so there you go thanks for voting! Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 15:51, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Concert #2
Okay who doesn't Love Music? And it's sadly becoming the end of Summer, so how about a Summer Never Ends Concert? And artists from throughout the world! Making music, Hip-hop, rap, Rock, Jazz or anything if you want a band here put it down, please only four artist per country! -
 * K'naan
 * Wyclef Jean
 * B.o.B
 * M.I.A.
 * Fox Force Four
 * Toyko Hotel
 * Lady Gaga
 * Sean Paul
 * Lee 'Scratch' Perry
 * Paulo Conte
 * Tom Pintens
 * Paramore
 * Enrique Inlesias
 * Rammstein
 * Party Squad

Marcus Villanova WLP 22:48, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why always Lady fucking Gaga? 09:08, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Would you like to? 09:09, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ha. Ha. I just don't like her. Eccentric mainstreamist. 09:14, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * It is like Marcuse says: she is übercasual in her being-eccentric. 09:16, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * No no no. God damn you Yuri! You fuckin' asshole! Everything's a fuckin' travesty with you, man! And what was all that shit about Marcuse? What the FUCK, has anything got to do with Marcuse? What the fuck are you talking about? 09:19, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * You'll probably start about my frame of reference now but I think the one-dimensionality as put forth by Marcuse is the best way to explain the Lady Gaga phenomenon. 09:21, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * You could be right . As you know, I haven't read that book. (I'm off now, gotta help in the kitchen.) 09:23, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Tokio hotel :S who's kidding with us JON   THE DUDE   JOHNSON  10:49, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I want Lee Perry to come too!! 11:45, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Who removed Tom Pintens? I want him to be present! And also paulo conte.
 * Let me make this clear, my life is Music, Sports, Politics. I Love music the most, not to sound chessey but it is a way of Expression! I Love Lady Gaga, and I Love the song Monsoon by Tokyo Hotel! Music is Life! Lol. Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 23:17, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * You can of course listen to whatever you like. More people will agree with you than with me but I dislike popular culture as it manifests itself today. 06:32, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * I never held you for a scratch-fan, yuri! Harold Freeman 07:47, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not really a fan, I just thought he is the kind of artist I would like to see on a summer-never-ends festival. Come on, lads... 08:39, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * May I suggest: Rammstein from Germany and Party Squad from Holland? We've got that crazy funky style! BastardRoyale 12:44, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Theme
Doesn't this festival need a 'theme', something that binds the artists all together? I couldn't possibly imagine Lady Gaga, Tom Pintens, K'naan, and Tokyo Hotel on one stage together... :s 14:41, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * What about tom pintens stays and the rest goes  JON   THE DUDE   JOHNSON  15:33, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * No theme, and they won't share a stage i have it all planned out. Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 16:30, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * I know the perfect theme: "artists that have absolutely nothing in common and couldn't possible share a stage IRL (which we solved by not letting them share a stage)". 16:37, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * No it's more or less like a small version of "We are the world" Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 16:47, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, add Pink Floyd, Kraftwerk, Dance 2 Trance, Paul de Leeuw, Europe and Tila Tequila, and we are complete. :) SjorskingmaWikistad 10:15, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Tila Tequila is a slut, I have no idea what Dance2Trance is, Paul and Kraftwerk again no idea and Pink Floyd is cool but are 50 so maybe. Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 15:42, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * You mean those Germans that yell like traumatized victims of gruesome violence? I don't like their music noise. 14:42, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

My opinion

 * Train Villlage needs some serious reworking. even with bucus plans the town failed. Maybe only 1 neighborhood is needed.
 * City status could be granted by someone (governor or king) regardless of how many meighborhoods it has instead of automaticaly given when a town reches 5 neighborhoods. Pierlot McCrooke 17:15, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * I've already put forth some planing in the chamber, but it won't come after the Elections and probaly won't be done until December, It involves joining together Nicohlasville and TV and making it smaller, possibly i hope it becomes a Hamlet. Sorry, but since there isn't alot of people in the two towns together it should just be simplier to do this. Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 17:19, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * I really like the six pointa system. UI hope it will good for Elections. Will it be used at the stat elections? Pierlot McCrooke 18:28, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think so, but ask the king, he'll know it JON   THE DUDE   JOHNSON  18:33, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

Plains
I don't like how things are going. Plains existed earlier than Portland. Though, the latter one is the one which is not "subject to removal". Why? SjorskingmaWikistad 10:12, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Because Congress decided so. I suppose each MOTC had his/her own reasons to vote pro or contra. Mine was demographics: Kings has a high population and definitely needed more space. Plains on the other hand - and this is just my opinion here - was fair but not really needed. 11:32, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I still haven't seen any official vote. And btw, there is one city in Kings, one hamlet, and one town. Clymene has two towns and one hamlet. So IF there is a state which needs the town more, it's Clymene. Why can't both towns stay existing? I spend so much time on it. SjorskingmaWikistad 12:13, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't be offended, but 1) how you see things on this matter really gives me the idea I'm talking against an robot: I did my work in good faith, and 2) I don't like the block you, Dimitri and Jonson are making against me. I know you know each other IRL, and probably have planned Portland together, but that doesn't give you the right to try to delete other towns which existed earlier. SjorskingmaWikistad 12:46, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

(1)
I only want one GOOD reason why Plains has to cease to exist. (And a "congress" vote is not a good reason, because at that time I probably was on holiday)SjorskingmaWikistad 12:46, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I had planned an expansion of King's infrastructure for a long time and when Jon came along he had a project that fitted our needs. I disagree that Clymene needs more room, but that is my opinion. A voting in Congress has made clear most people share my view. I do think you do good work but this is how democracy works. 12:55, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I still don't have seen any voting. Please give me a link. SjorskingmaWikistad 13:05, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm starting to become a bit fed up with you. Novosevensk can stay, Portland can stay, but Plains cannot. Wtf is the problem if Plains would stay existing?? SjorskingmaWikistad 13:13, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep it cool guys. I believe Yuri is reffering to these two:
 * First chamber poll
 * Second chamber voting
 * Harold Freeman 13:31, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah c'mon. Sjors speaking from a citizen of Clymene We probally could have worked out a compromise like saying Plains would become a Hamlet? Novo stayed becuse of Seven's Low population a raised it a good 800 citizens. Portland stayed again beacuse it raises the population a whole bunch, Plains should have stayed! But Again... Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 15:33, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Good point, Marcus, good point. SjorskingmaWikistad 10:02, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

(2)
I really want to reopen this discussion. Can everybody who reads this, give his or her opinion about the in my point of view unfair coming-soon dleetion of Plains? SjorskingmaWikistad 10:04, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright, here we go:
 * Our nation is limited; therefore we must limit building and prevent over-building;
 * Our neighborhoods are largely unoccupied; therefore we need to rework them first and not expand other areas;
 * To decide which projects may become real towns and cities, Congress must choose;
 * All choices are arbitrary to a certain degree; they are based on relative and subjective convinctions of the choosers;
 * The majority of Congress was convinced that the relative value of Novosevensk and Portland was greater than that of Plains; the reasons herefore you must ask each individual MOTC;
 * Since the majority of a democratically elected Congress democratically agreed on this issue, concluding that the existence of Portland and Novosevensk may be a positive thing for Lovia, and Plains being of a lesser quality (in their judgment), Congress was convinced that when we must limit town building it is best to allow only the very best projects;
 * So. I understand that you disagree. Some others in Congress or in Lovia might disagree as well. But the majority didn't. And one of Congress' goals is to limit over-building; and so they did. 11:17, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Don't be silly. You guys (Jon, you and Regalorium) just backed each other up for Portland. There will be no extra towns anymore. Just let Plains stay. It's a fictious country, right? SjorskingmaWikistad 20:34, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * You actually held the vote when I was on holiday. I call that undemocratic. I couldn't even defend the case of the town. SjorskingmaWikistad 20:35, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Happy couples?
This is a strange request but if my piece of marriage legislation would pass, are there any users or fictive persons that would want to make use of it? If I remember correctly the King still has a fiancé? Of course we need to wait until our new governors are elected. I'm curious if all the work was actually useful or if my laws will just serve for decoration? 15:13, September 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Again only 13, can't be married. Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 15:40, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * @Marcus: Your character "Marcus Villanova" isn't 13, is he?
 * @Yuri: Yes, I will be wedding Mary Elisabeth Nelson in October. 15:23, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * great, am I invited :p JON   THE DUDE   JOHNSON  15:33, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * You will be soon :D 15:35, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Great I'll find myself a costume then :p JON   THE DUDE   JOHNSON  16:12, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * You better do. Get yourself a fiancee/date too, by then! 16:14, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes 13, "Marcus is the chairman of the sea-side hamlet Adoha. Marcus is the youngest congressmen ever elected and is currently a member of Walden. " So yeah It would be kinda hard to marry. Marcus Villanova Walden [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 17:14, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * @Dimi: I don't like puffy costumes and classic man-woman dates, but I'll do my best to fit in. That is, if I'm invited of course.  06:15, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I, Philip Bradly-Lashawn, son of Arthur III and nephew to our current monarch, the Great and honourable Dimitri the First, would like to inform you of my upcoming marriage. I have discovered the infidelity of my wife Malia Vensterdorp and now I wish to marry professional model and fellow Buddhist Yunus Xuan. I wish to divorce my wife, then take Xuan as my second wife if she agrees (highly likely since we have known each other for several years as members of the same temple and have been secretly seeing each other since five months prior to this day). I would like to use this message of yours, dear comrade Medvedev, to:


 * A: Ask my dear Yunus to marry me, and:


 * B: Express my best wishes to my nephew the king, and wish him a good marriage and may his wife bare him many sons and may the fruit of his loins be many in number and fruitful and successful.

Comrade Philip has spoken. Back to you, Yuri,

BastardRoyale 07:40, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Those are two wonderful marriages in the making.  09:46, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Spotlight
We really need a wikia spotlight. Otherwise we never get 100 users active simultaously (sorry for spelling errors) Pierlot McCrooke 17:44, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure we need so many... We can hardly check all pages now. Martha Van Ghent 17:59, September 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's right. Now this Horton guy showed up, I have not been able to wikify all his article - and they need it... 07:45, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * A 100 is maybe a bit too many, but some more might turn out as benevolent JON   THE DUDE   JOHNSON  07:56, September 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well sure, but we need to finish off a lot of things first. This wiki is - speaking of community infrastructure - not ready for more users. E.g.: we don't have a body that constitutes the rules of this site, except for the site admins themselves. 08:09, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

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