User talk:77topaz

Welcome!
Hi, welcome to Wikination, the Lovia wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Forum:IWO Games page. Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Ooswesthoesbes (Talk) 20:11, August 19, 2012
 * Welcome! I know you're active in Brunant, feel free to do some editing here too. :P --Semyon 09:57, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks for reminding me. :P You have over 50 edits, so can become a citizen. Three pieces of info are needed: the name, sex and main residence of your main character in Lovia. --Semyon 11:56, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

Okay... Nicholas Sheraldin, male, and his address will be on his page. 77topaz (talk) 12:01, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I saw you spoke Dutch. Assuming you're from one of the Dutch countries, are you Southern or Northern, if I may ask? :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:05, September 14, 2012 (UTC)

I've lived in both, unless you mean Belgium with "Southern". 77topaz (talk) 01:32, September 15, 2012 (UTC)

Funny, I had a vague idea you lived in Australia. :P --Semyon 09:44, September 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've been there, actually. 77topaz (talk) 21:10, September 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Is it because of the times at which I edit? I do currently reside in that half of the world. 77topaz (talk) 21:53, September 15, 2012 (UTC)

Southern means Belgium+Brabant+Limburg :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:24, September 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, I've lived in Noord-Brabant, so I guess "I've lived in both" holds. 77topaz (talk) 21:10, September 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:19, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Sylvanian Coalition (and more...)
Hey I noticed you were thinking about running for Governor in Sylvania. I have a proposal for the Campaign in Sylvania (and maybe for the Federal Elections too should you warm to the ideas I'm about to propose), seeming as we would be running both against the current Governor Markus Villanova and also against each other if you ran, we would both have weakened campaigns in trying to take the seat and raise support. Now should we co-operate and band together then we have a chance of overthrowing him. Now this next bit is a little bit one sided so I understand if you decide against it, if I may have your support in votes in Sylvania for Governor then I can give you the position of Deputy Governor (this means you'll have to run though) as part of a coalition in which you can help preserve freedoms, balance out economic development with the environment and give yourself a boost in getting to new positions.

On top of this I would like to propose that you join the coalition between myself Lukas Hoffmann of the CNP (don't be fooled by the Conservative and Nationalist bit, we are strongly Libertarian), the LDP and PL. While this is currently just a proposal I think that the other parties'll welcome you. We are joined together because we believe in (like your party) freedoms, the truth and liberty in many other manners and while we seperate off on social and economic policies, we normally work things out. It'd be great to have a robust new ally on the field and I'd like to help you get off the ground too along with that. It's a mutually beneficial relationship :) Kunarian (talk) 00:11, September 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that's impossible. : Article 8.3.5: The candidate who received the second highest number of votes and at least three will become Deputy Governor of the state in which he or she participated in the state elections. A Governor can not simply give another candidate the post of Deputy. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 03:09, September 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Seriously? then it'd have to be based upon pure co-operation in Sylvania, if you're still game for the rest of the agreement that is. Kunarian (talk) 06:22, September 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * The problem with this proposal is that is can't be enacted unless Villanova comes third and doesn't get a post at all, which seems unlikely. And more people running (there are two weeks left) is possible, and would complicate things further. 77topaz (talk) 06:28, September 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Then instead of Deputy would you prefer to simply be part of an alliance with me aka voting for yourself but if it comes to a tie break between me and Villanova then giving your support to me as Governor? I'd still like to work with you in the federal elections and beyond but it'd be a good start to work on Sylvania together even if you don't have the official title of Deputy. And I don't think any more people will run to be honest, unless it's another new person and then I think we could continue the coalition with them.
 * But the main questions are whether you'd want to work with me in Sylvania? and whether you would want to work with me and the other parties that I mentioned in the future? Kunarian (talk) 08:59, September 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, okay, that seems reasonable. 77topaz (talk) 09:41, September 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * To be honest, if you two really want to help each other, the best way would be to stand in different states. I suppose you're aware that citizens can own more than one residence, but at the moment you each only own one, in Sylvania. --Semyon 10:07, September 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Glad that you're on board, I'd shake your hand warmly and offer you some of the cake I baked yesterday but the internet doesn't work quite like that :L and Semyon I understand your point but I think he wants to stand in Sylvania specifically, so unless he wanted to try another state (I'd be happy to help him find a target State to campaign in should he see the benefits of this) then we'll play it like this. Kunarian (talk) 11:17, September 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * k. You should still buy more houses though. And yes, pity about the cake. :( --Semyon 12:42, September 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, in the article it says I have a house on Adlibitan Island. But since there's no map for that island, I couldn't give it a more specific address. 77topaz (talk) 20:10, September 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah well, just give your house a name I'd say :P Like Topaz Mansion, Adlibitan Island. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 20:25, September 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * What if i told you i have a solution to this problem User:Crystalbeastdeck09/Politics under section 4. Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:57, September 17, 2012 (UTC)

Green Party
Hi topaz. Would you please reconsider using the currently existing Green Party? I'm sure that no one besides maybe Pierlot would have a problem with changing the history of the party to have never been about drugs, and just a standard Green Party. Changing the existing party is a better option than creating a redundant party, which I think we currently have too many of in Lovia. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:56, September 17, 2012 (UTC)

State election debates are a go! check them out and make some opening statements (try to keep them short but you saw how well I did) we are going to have clear questions on each topic afterwards :) Kunarian (talk) 22:14, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

77? Please reply to my request. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:07, September 22, 2012 (UTC)

Zackatron/Sunkist
These multiple accounts are always confusing (I have a couple myself :P) but see here. --Semyon 20:14, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

Two things
Hey 77 our new member, im a more senior member since 2010 and was once even PM. http://drichfld.freeshell.org/perlcgi/arch.cgi Is the link for the Parliament diagram where you can make all semi-circle diagrams you want. Also you should adopt the Green Party instead and reform it to you ideas instead of creating a "new" green party. The original Green Party is actually pro-cannabis but isn't a only cannabis party anymore. If your against cannibis legalization you can leave the party neutural on the issue since most regular green parties are pro-legalization. But it's up to you. Hope you take the suggestion :D Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:08, September 22, 2012 (UTC)

Two things in response: the diagram generator just outputs a block of code, and would it be possible for the NGP to absorb/dissolve the GPL and take its seats in Congress? 77topaz (talk) 23:43, September 22, 2012 (UTC)

Never mind the "code" bit, I found the link to the outputted diagram. 77topaz (talk) 00:02, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

I think we could easily 'rewrite history' and say HEMPPAC never became the Green Party, leaving the NGP free to simply be the Green Party. I hope Marcus would agree to that. About taking the Green seats: it's up to Marcus really. --Semyon 12:29, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Vote
Hey, thanks for voting for me! I really appreciate it. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 10:57, October 10, 2012 (UTC)

On the subject of voting - would you please vote for me in Seven? Considering I'm the only candidate, I hope you won't object to helping elect me - unless you particularly dislike me which I hope you don't :P. If you're just waiting for your house in Seven to be made official, then that's not a problem, because the law nowhere states second or third houses have to be officially registered.

I don't usually ask for votes, or even vote for myself, but this is a slightly unique situation. --Semyon 12:37, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm... last year Marcus was elected even though he didn't pass the votes requirement, apparently. Are you in the Libertarian coalition? 77topaz (talk) 19:59, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but those elections were really messed up, and I would in any case prefer to be elected properly. Erm... I'd never even heard of the Libertarian coalition until now, so I guess I'm not part of it. :P --Semyon 20:33, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

The Libertarian coalition is LDP, CNP and NGP (and maybe others). 77topaz (talk) 20:44, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Wait, NGP's in it too? I always thought it was LDP, CNP, and PL. Welcome aboard! —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:01, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Kunarian/Hoffmann invited me (I think because/during the elections). 77topaz (talk) 22:28, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

I thought your party was a leftist party. But it seems it's more a green and liberal party. Is that right? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:12, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

It is a leftist party. And also environmentalist. 77topaz (talk) 23:13, October 11, 2012 (UTC)

Okay. Also, I still don't understand why you are founding a new party instead of joining GPL. It may have drug links but it changed its name to get away from those links. Could you explain that to me? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 01:20, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Well, there's multiple reasons. The GPL's logo, for example, still suspiciously looks like a hemp leaf. The GPL already has a leader, etc. It is more part of the Labour coalition than the Libertarian coalition, and is currently a direct puppet of Marcus, and thereby Labour, in Congress. Also, about the NGP (from its page): "We won't just be a party for the environment, we will be for freedom and the truth, also." A new party also sounds fresher, and the GPL seems to be fading from view, and the NGP has "new" ideals it is pioneering in Lovia, and GPL has had a troubled history and influence from Pierlot. 77topaz (talk) 04:33, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

I posted a suggestion in the section above this, but you probably missed it: 'I think we could easily 'rewrite history' and say HEMPPAC never became the Green Party, leaving the NGP free to simply be the Green Party. I hope Marcus would agree to that.' I understand all your reasons, but I think Lovian politics is screwed up enough already without having a 'Green Party' and a separate 'New Green Party.' --Semyon 08:57, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

So that would mean GPL becomes HEMPPAC and NGP GPL? That would mean, that, for the first nine (?) years of deomocratic existence, Lovia never had a Green Party. 77topaz (talk) 09:12, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

So what? :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:15, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

I thought Lovia was supposed to be a more-leftist-than-usual nation (I think Pikapi/Costello said that). 77topaz (talk) 09:22, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Well, that's true for a part. Even parties like CCPL (very conservative!) are actually left-wing parties, supporting a pro-green policy and socialist laws. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:32, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

For a leftist country not to have a green party would be a bit strange. Also, categories can't be renamed. And the wiki is big. 77topaz (talk) 09:35, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Not necessarily. But, it could be possible they simply didn't gain any seats: the green course was already represented with almost all other parties and there were only a few seats to be given. @cats: that's never possible, not even on wikipedia :) If you want to rename a cat, just tell me and I'll fix it for you :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:38, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Well, we could change it to say you founded the party much earlier. About the cat: there's only 3 pages so we could just edit them and delete the cat. All these problems can be got around. :P --Semyon 09:40, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Also, there was a green party active in Oceana from 1978 to 1994: Green Christians. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:46, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

NGP can't have been founded, say, before 2012, because I, and thus the party, wasn't there. Also, "Green Christians" doesn't really sound similar to the NGP, and I thought Lovia only became democratic in 2003? 77topaz (talk) 10:31, October 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure about how the national politics worked before 2003, but state politics have been democratic since the states were founded in 1905. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:52, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

You don't need to have to be founded in 2012. If it fits with history in makes sense, old history can be changed under some conditions. Adding political party founding dates before their OOC founding is perfectly fine. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 10:56, October 12, 2012 (UTC)

Unless you have a very strong objection, I think we should rename the party. As TM points out, IC founding can be before OOC founding (e.g. LCP), so I wouldn't worry about that. And even by Lovian standards, having two Green parties is screwed up. Environmentalism isn't a large movement after all. --Semyon 12:05, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Clymene
Hey, according to my statistics you only have one house, in Sylvania. Perhaps you could buy a second one in Clymene and vote for George, so he'll be elected deputy? --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:30, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

I actually have three houses: see here: One in Sylvania, one in Kings, and one in Seven. 77topaz (talk) 09:34, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Dehdeh... Time to update the citizen list... --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:37, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Mmm.. Not sure whether your secluded mansion can be used as an official residence. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:40, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * I could make that owned by his family or something. Then I'd have an "open residence". 77topaz (talk) 09:42, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

Article 3 - Constitution - 1.2.3: His or her domicile (permanent residence); this being a full address of a residence in a Lovian city or town. It's not an official residence, so you're not an official inhabitantof Seven. As you haven't voted in Seven, perhaps you could buy a third official house in Clymene still? :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:42, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

Isn't that what I said above? 77topaz (talk) 09:43, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, you could interpret it like that as well :P I'd say: go ahead and buy one more so we'll have everybody elected who can be elected :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:45, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, done. Strangely, there's just about no free space anywhere in Sofasi. :P Also, will this mean that I'm the only person running who won't get elected? 77topaz (talk) 09:59, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, some areas are overpopulated while others are nearly deserted.. Mmm.. Perhaps you could work together with Semyon after the elections and take up some sort of deputy role? --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:01, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm... okay. That would be interesting. 77topaz (talk) 10:03, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * You already have a private family mansion on Adlibitan Island, so why not? :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:04, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Also, where are those nearly-deserted areas? 77topaz (talk) 10:07, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Train Village (esp. Clave Rock and Nicholasville), East Hills, the appartment buildings all over Lovia (though less, because I demolished some of them this year :P). --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:13, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Clave Rock has only three open spaces. :P Also, I have a project planned which will involve Train Village, Clave Rock and East Hills, so that could help. 77topaz (talk) 10:16, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * TV is a lost situation I believe. In Lovia, towns thrive when they are taken care of. Nobody seems interested in TV: the name sucks, it lacks a proper history, there's nothing there... Could all be changed, but it'll be a hell of a task. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:23, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * My project will involve one building/apartment per settlement, so it may not change that much. :P 77topaz (talk) 10:27, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * No :P Housing shortages isn't the problem, population shortage is. The town needs something special that isn't typically idiot as it is now :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:30, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, the project, at least in its current form, wouldn't be building new buildings. The project is to open NGP-funded community/youth centers and NGP meeting places. In NGP tradition, at least some of them would be in apartment buildings. :) It would kind of be similar to the top floors of Drake Town Mall, but more multifunctional etc. 77topaz (talk) 10:37, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * You should rebuild Station Mall. It's just a few empty squares. I'd say: raze it to the ground and build something good on its place :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:40, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, the project will be called Free Society. What "building type" do you think its buildings would be? 77topaz (talk) 10:45, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd make them multistory buildings. They should have enough room for all the facilities needed. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:52, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * No, I mean it as in: what background colour should they have on the wikicode maps? 77topaz (talk) 10:53, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ow... Administrative: #DCDCDC. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:56, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

Voting
Thanks for your vote, friend! Wabba The I (talk) 09:30, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

Huh? I voted for TM, not you :P 77topaz (talk) 09:32, October 13, 2012 (UTC)



New member
I'm interested in joining your party. Will you accept me?--George the Greek (talk) 11:07, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm... yes. It would be valuable to have another user in the party, probably. Welcome! 77topaz (talk) 19:03, October 14, 2012 (UTC)

Shall I design the NGP logo? Give me your ideas!--George the Greek (talk) 14:59, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

Our Mission Together
I'm sorry if the first few weeks of my Governance does not breed huge amounts of co-operation by the way, I'm starting by getting the affairs of the State in order, then moving onto actions. However I hope you will be patient enough to bear with this minor delay as after that I'm going to hold a meeting for all parties concerned in Sylvanian governance (CNP, NGP and Labour) to discuss the plans of the state. After this meeting we will be able to efficiently and effectively carry out the work that we planned to do before the elections. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 23:37, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

Oh and here's a little present I threw together when I was just playing with some things today I hope you like it. ;) Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 23:53, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

Wow, nice! I'm guessing you read George's talk page? :) 77topaz (talk) 01:02, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

I did however I left the logo for you to design, this is just a nice adverts that I think'll be of use to you. :) Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 01:44, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

I like the design very much (also it'll be very easy to remove the word 'new' in Paint :P). Two minor criticisms: there are either some missing full stops or some unnecessary capitals, and (which is much more important) there aren't any quotation marks at the end of the text. --Semyon 21:45, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

I did quite literally 'throw' it together I was just hoping you wouldn't spot my mistakes :L Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 22:09, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

Haha, no problem. :P I hope you fix the quotation marks at least. --Semyon 22:10, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

I thought Kunarian had meant it to be like this, so I didn't mention it. :P 77topaz (talk) 22:11, October 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * I could easily fix it for you :) and by the way topaz, I'm going to bring in a reform soon that you should really vote for. It'll reform the States and give you a chance to have a proper position within the Sylvanian State Government. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 02:29, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * You do realise I'm not a member of Congress? 77topaz (talk) 02:35, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Does the GP not have seats like it says on their page or are they controlled by someone else? Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 02:36, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * TM controls one of them and Marcus the other. see here 77topaz (talk) 02:41, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

Rename NGP
Hi, could you please re-read the "Vote" section of your talk page? Semyon and I both strongly urge you to consider changing the name of the NGP to GPL and removing the old GPL from history. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 02:15, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

There's many, many GPL links, the NGP is increasing in prominence (including its name), and there's even NGP pictures now (and GPL pictures, of course). 77topaz (talk) 03:10, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

Those can be changed. GPL links can be reverted to HEMPPAC, while can be reverted to a pro-cannabis PAC. 77topaz, please, let us do this. It's NOT too late. Trust me. And the pictures I've seen so far don't seem to hard to change (except for maybe getting the correct font). —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 12:59, October 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Dear Topaz, listen to them. We should change the name. In my opinion we shouldn't be a green party. This doesn't mean we will totally change our ideology. For example we could name it United Socialists, Radical Left Party, etc and keep our environmentalist ideas.--George the Greek (talk) 17:10, October 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * United Socialists sounds a bit too much like CPL.nm. Radical Left sounds a bit too... radical. Not sure people would vote for a party with that name. Environmental Party, maybe? Freedom Party (that risks sounding too Oceana-ish). 77topaz (talk) 21:29, October 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Whatever you rename yourself to, by the way, I'll make you a new poster. And have you ever thought about the name - Peoples Land Party? it's a name I came up with a while back while thinking about minor parties to create and you could keep the leftism and the envrionmentalism in the name. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 21:42, October 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds a bit like an "indigenous people" sort of party. :P 77topaz (talk) 21:47, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

I see Semyon has jumped the gun a bit with the election map. :) 77topaz (talk) 22:12, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

I'd say just Green Party (of Lovia). :) Give me the OK and I'll start the fixing. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:16, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

That would take a long time with just one person, so I'll help, I guess. But okay. Though the history of the party might be an issue. 77topaz (talk) 22:18, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

Oh great. Wikia won't let me move the GPL page to HEMPPAC, which means I can't move the NGP page to GPL, which means the whole thing can't be done, it seems. 77topaz (talk) 22:21, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

Admins can move pages over redirects. Don't worry. Even if admins couldn't, we could always copy-paste... —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:44, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

I've moved everything I could think of, which probably isn't everything. :P Only took 33 edits. --Semyon 23:01, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

You forgot the HEMPPAC logo and the NGP images (Wikia won't let me move images; all the images concerned will need to be edited). 77topaz (talk) 00:37, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

I think the article name should be Green Party of Lovia, but if you don't want to, that's fine. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 00:49, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Semyon's the one who moved everything. I suggest you talk to him. 77topaz (talk) 00:46, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

He reads this talk page. ;) —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 00:50, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, would you like to have an earlier IC founding for your party? The way I was intending it to work was for GP to be founded before the Special Federal Elections, 2011, so that all the seats of HEMPPAC can be removed from history and changed to GP. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 12:52, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Hey Topaz, check out my citizen. :D ((ლ( (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ( 01:15, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Coalition
Hey, just wondering, because I know that the Green Party and Positive Lovia share the allegiance of the CNP and the SLP, does that mean that we are we working together as well? I'd be very happy to consider the Green Party a political ally. — Christopher Costello  (Pikapi • Chat  • What's up ) 14:03, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Hello
I don't think we've ever talked, i'm a -more- senior member Marcus Villanova. I wanted to know how you are distributing your seats if we form the [{Sylvania State Council]]. Just wanted to know if you were giving them all to the Green Party or to other parties. Again, hi :D Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:19, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

But we're not doing seat distribution of real users, Marcus. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:13, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Am I supposed to respond to this or not? :P 77topaz (talk) 02:57, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Hi
Please have a look on Forum:Political Coalitions to talk with me and Kunarian about the Green Party joining the CNP-PL-SLP coalition.  Happy65   Talk CNP  19:12, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

Notice
To Nicholas Sheraldin

We are currently looking for a better name for the CNP-PL-SLP-GP coalition and we would like to ask you to see if you have a name. If you do have a name, go to section 6 of the Forum:Political Coalitions and leave your name idea.

Dave Leskromento Coalition Messenger

While I'm somewhat partial to the SLP and PL, I think it is a good idea, this way the GP can get a foothold in the political world of Lovia with the backing of time-tested parties to support us. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 20:07, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

Ah sweet! What can I do now? I know I can vote, but is there anything particularly awesome I can do? Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 23:30, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Well, what's the process? Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 23:34, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Ah, okay then. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 23:41, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Gotcha, thank you very much Topaz. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 23:46, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 23:55, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Sure. :) Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 00:16, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Excellent. I think I'll try running for Prime Minister if I can. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 00:20, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Sure, go ahead. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 00:23, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Crystal. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 00:37, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Not yet really. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 01:07, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

I'll plan out my strategy in the near future then. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 01:20, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Not yet. But as I stated before, I'm a bit busy with other matters, so it may take some time for me to come up with some. I have users from other wikis asking me for help, four wikis that I'm running, and three others that I have a commitment to. Now that I think about, taking part in politics may not be the wise thing to do at the moment. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 01:44, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Cool. I'll do that first thing tomorrow. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 01:50, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

How about tomorrow night around the same time? Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 02:02, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Well whenever your avalible then. Though anytime around 15:00 Central time is good for me if your avalible then. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 02:09, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

09:00 PM UTC. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 02:16, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

I left my comment. :) Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 22:00, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

I like it. I'm pleased with the way things turned out. Thank you for the interview. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 22:24, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Show your Support
Show your support by reading and signing in the support section of Head to the Ministry.  Happy65   Talk CNP  10:03, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Federal elections
Ummm, what federal elections?? Sorry, I didn't have much time due to school. Please tell me more.--George the Greek (talk) 13:09, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I just got my computer back, so I'll be voting for you in the elections when they happen. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 01:40, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Nah. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 01:43, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for the disappearance. I'm not a good arguer, but I would welcome the possibility of sitting on the senate for the GP. However, the position of Prime Minister seems more up your alley. Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 19:25, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Ah. Well when I feel I am ready for that, I'll just stay outside of politics for a little, watch everybody else, and then strike while they sleep and become the Grand Poobah of All Lovia. :P Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 19:40, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Serious dedication
Congratulations, I hope you didn't stay up too late submitting that application. :P --Semyon 09:07, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

No, I didn't have to "stay up" at all. 77topaz (talk) 09:10, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

OK, that's good. I don't really know what time zone you're in. --Semyon 12:11, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Hey
Where do I put candidancy??--George the Greek (talk) 23:39, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

I think you, Chris and Time managed to handle it, it was well refuted as an IC thing. However OOC we must simply I think be aware that the active people will be passing laws and simply vote for them. Marcus may have a point but I'm glad we dealt with the IC move against two of our coalition members. Thanks for throwing me the heads up too btw. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 19:53, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

Colon guide
A
 * B
 * C
 * D
 * E
 * F
 * D-reaction
 * C-reaction
 * C-reaction-reaction
 * C-r-r-reaction
 * Reaction to C-reation etc.

--O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:44, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

That puts the reaction to C far away from C if the F-chain is long or there are many responses to D or E or F. 77topaz (talk) 10:46, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

System proposal:

A

B

C
 * C-reaction (made after D)
 * Newer reaction to C-reaction
 * C-reaction reaction
 * C-reaction-reaction reaction

D
 * D-reaction (made after E)

E

F

77topaz (talk) 10:57, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

It's exactly the same. The illustrated the colon-less system:

A

B

C
 * C-r (and now, if I want to react to this reaction??)
 * C-r-r (?)
 * C-r-r-r
 * C-r-r-r-r

D (which is in fact a reaction to C)

E

F

It really isn't any more helpful - arguable even less helpful - than the colon system... --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:59, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, that was what I thought. As you can see, the D reaction is still far away from C. It just switche C-r and D... In fact it only takes up more space, because between the lines there is a larger opening... --O u WTBsjrief-mich 11:00, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

It takes up less space, since the indent does not increase as rapidly. 77topaz (talk) 11:03, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

That's not what I'm talking bout. I'm talking about the space in the wikicode editor. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 11:07, December 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Haha.  Happy65   Talk CNP LogoCNP.png 11:54, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

Please
Please don't change the pages yet on MOTC seats like you did to GP. The elections have closed but the government (new) hasn't started yet.  Happy65   Talk CNP  07:38, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Coalition
Hey, I was wondering whether GP was in favour of devolving powers down to State: bringing democracy closer to the people, giving governors (and State Councils when we implement them properly) more powers to help their local economies and cultures. It'd be great to have you on board in a coalition, especially as you have quite active members in your party. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 16:20, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. 4 votes for TM. :) Vivaporius says: "I don't need a slogan!" 14:48, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Gay equality
Hello! Namaste! Greetings!

My name is Elk Punarbhava and I am a member of the new social movement, Reboot, to which you are very much invited to join. We would be happy to have a new, people and nature loving member in our midst!

I want to introduce a bill in the 1st Chamber on same-sex marriage and gay equality. Before I write it, I am looking for a broad coalition of partners that will support it. I would like to make sure that all the rights that mixed-sex couples enjoy by law and in society, are also granted to homosexual couples. I am also adamant about defending the rights of these people and fighting all forms of discrimination. If possible, I will include this in the bill.

Can I count on you and the party you represent to stand by my side in this battle? Lovia needs change in the right direction. Making sure nobody is discriminated on the basis of sexual preference, or who he or she loves, is the first thing on my list, and hope it's on yours too. Let me know if I can count on you.

Thank you so very much, Punarbhava (talk) 13:50, February 6, 2013 (UTC)

Car accessibility?
Dear Nicholas Sheraldin, Secretary of the Environment,

I believe we both deeply care about the environment. As you may have heard already, I am currently doing some reorganizing in the village of Clave Rock. With the Governor's permission, I am trying to make Clave Rock a beautiful and healthy place, full of life and in harmony with nature.

To achieve that goal, I have been reverting some stand-alone houses and villas into share homes (e.g. The Share Home, Chaparral House), and we're also working on some new natural and city park areas. One of the things I would like to do, is close off the P. Auerbach Alley for motor vehicles. The new alley would have a large bike path, pedestrian trails, and green spaces. We might create a small parking lot on the edge of town.

Your Free Society has its offices at the Auerbach Alley, and unlike all other establishments in the street, it would be impossible to reach the building directly from the street by car. Is that something you are concerned about? If not, I would like to go on with "greening" the Auerbach Alley. The people working in your offices would still be able to reach their workplace by foot or bike. In fact, the railway halt is only a 2 minute walk away! And it would definitely improve the scenery!

Thank you very much, and have a good day! Punarbhava (talk) 16:28, February 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey, could you please answer when you come online . Thank you! Punarbhava (talk) 12:00, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. Don't really know too much about the IWO to be voting in favor of it. :P Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 02:18, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

No. No I did not... -_- Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 13:57, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Party logo
Hey Topaz, do you know anyone who can make two party logos for me? It's not related to Lovia, but I was in search of someone who could help out. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 21:09, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. So anything particularly interesting going here? Future World got rebooted over on Conworlds, so you could come back with the Vanev if you wanted too. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 21:17, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

Alright then. Thanks for all the help again. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 21:23, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

The Ultimatum Stands
Take Note. Kind regards,

The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 20:56, April 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * Peace is now the goal. I repeat: peace is now the goal. And a pardon for me and my Brigadiers. The situation, military and strategically, is rather hopeless. It seems at this point all is lost and and the battle cannot be won. The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 21:16, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

And of course I voted for our party. :P Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 01:37, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

Oh course. And sorry I haven't been to active around here lately. I've just got a thousand and one things to deal with at home and on the other wikias I'm on. I'll see about getting back to Lovia and Tagog in the near future if I can. :) Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 01:43, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

GP Growth
The Green Party needs to pursue an active policy of agressive recruitment and marketing. We're too small, but have plenty of excellent ideas, yet, we have few supporters are the CCLP continues to dominate Lovia. If we're to have any success in the future of getting Nick into the Prime Minister's seat, we need to push the GP into the front as best we can. Your thoughts? Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 02:11, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Well, so long as we're promoting ourselves. I plan on establishing an Islamic party simply for the flavor (don't plan on running as them or anything), and have them represent the small Muslim community in Lovia as their lacking much weight in the government. Hopefully, I'll be able to establish a hamlet or town somewhere in Lovia, and then slowly but craftly merge my party with the GP to boost its membership and influence. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 03:58, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Why didn't your plan work? Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 04:11, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Well I can certainly understand why the plan didn't work now. Hopefully this one will pull through. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 04:19, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, and where would I develop my hamlet idea? In my talk page? Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 04:23, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Just to add in, on the Local Elections page, you put the residence bit as your residence not the character you are using to stand there. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 11:20, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Merge
The political climate is always changing fast in Lovia. With one of your members leaving and our similar support for social democracy and the envrionment, why not merge? Justin Abrahams (and his crew), Labour and your Party. Without it nothing will happen but I still understand why you wouldn't merge. Still hopefully you merge to united the left. Look in Forum:The Pub for our various logos and names and such. Marcus/Michael Villanova 01:38, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

Topaz I implore you to stay independent from this, knowing you you probably will but just in case I'd like to ask that you stay as your own party with your own independent views rather than become part of some big uni-party for the left where you will be a minority voice in the party. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 09:26, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

I'm glad that you agree. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 20:22, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

Minor vote
As you can see, it's yours. Now how about we make this a proper swap and you give me yours, too? The sun does not rise for nothing my friend. Also, good luck in the elections! The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 07:39, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Possibilities
The GP and Labour are suffering. The left, getting crushed. Once upon a time Progressive parties made up about 60 seats in congress, now its about 30. The recent elections right now have shown that...so how about support vote for support vote just to get you and Labour some support. Leftism isn't on the upswing and we need to stick together not fight. Marcus/Michael Villanova 00:01, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey the CNP is progressive, all parties views themselves as it. If you're talking socially liberal then CNP, LP and GP are all on the same track. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 08:46, June 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * In the leftist sense, but we need to stick together in these elections to even get on the map! Marcus/Michael Villanova 10:54, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Hey, there's a vote taking place on ConWorlds for two new admins. Super and I created it since UP and Woogers have been spotty recently in their activity. We need some more votes before we approach Wikia for help on the matter. Check it out if you have a chance. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 00:27, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

So I take that as a noMarcus/Michael Villanova 11:53, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Are you talking about the Train Village elections? 77topaz (talk) 21:05, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Blast. I only live in Kings. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 22:38, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

I was planning on building a second home for Rakham, but I'm still on the fence as to where to place it. I'm thinking about Oceana because of its radical attempts to seperate from Lovia, but I'm still unsure. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 22:44, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Awesome. I'll move my dude there with his second house this week. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 23:02, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

I'll do it today then. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 00:15, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

I haven't pinned it to any town yet. I was planning on placing the estate in Thameen as a neighborhood in one of the major cities. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 20:12, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Okay then, I'll place my minor vote on one of the non-threatening parties. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 20:28, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

I feel stupid now. I make the change now. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 12:08, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

I couldn't find the page, and my attention was called somewhere else. Sorry. Link please? :) Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 22:31, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Sylvanian Residency
Due to new State Laws, I am required to ask you to give me information so that you may be given Sylvanian Residency which is now required to stand and vote in elections in Sylvania, these include:
 * Election of Governors
 * Election of State Councils
 * Election of Local Councils

To obtain Sylvanian Residency you must give me the following information:
 * All your legal residences in Sylvania the date you began living in them
 * Your name

Sorry about this being a bit late :L

Thank you for your co-operation. - From the Governor of Sylvania, Lukas Hoffmann Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 15:50, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Wouldn't you just be able to check the Citizen registry or Sheraldin's page for those? :P 77topaz (talk) 20:45, June 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * No, seeming as the Citizen registry is not completely up to date and user pages aren't always either. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 21:01, June 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well then, Nicholas Sheraldin's residence in Sylvania is at Seawater Apartments, 1 Democracy Avenue, Bayside, Noble City. 77topaz (talk) 21:38, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

When are the elections going to begin? Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 20:29, June 24, 2013 (UTC)

Helping out with the hamlet
Kunarian has stated that we are allowed to create hamlet pages in Sylvania, so your best bet is to start working on one of those. Kunarian has already made a rough outline of every hamlet here. Cadaro (www.tonefactory.lo) 10:42, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Meh, none of the state polls represent my interests. Its basically the same question over and over again. never any new candidates. How long as Ilava been prime minister? Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 22:52, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Well, I've been looking at the same list of politicians for the longest. Somebody should shake up the establishment just for the heck of it. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 23:04, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations on the highest polling yet for the Green Party. 21%! one away from a tie in 1st. :D Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 12:14, July 6, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, but I've been deciding whether it should be Kings or Noble City. However, I feel that the former would be more attainable. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 11:51, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

Cool. Oh, if Rahkam fails, would he be permitted to shift the voters' attention to your guy? Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 20:55, July 8, 2013 (UTC)

I meant if we ran together in the same state. But I just remembered that you said you were running in Sylvania. I wasn't paying attention. :/ Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 17:29, July 9, 2013 (UTC)

Sylvanian State Elections
State elections are currently starting for all of Sylvania and everyone is encouraged to take part either as a voter or as a candidate for the Sylvania State Council! This small information pack should get you ready to participate and contribute to the event!

The State elections are divided up into two elections, one for the Council of Representatives and one for the Senate. The election of the Council of Representatives concerns all Lovians and Sylvanian Residents. While the election of the Senate largely concerns only Sylvanian Residents.

There is help at hand so try to take part even if you're not sure, you will be pointed in the right direction and will be given assistance to help things run smoothly.

~ Election of the Council of Representatives ~

What's up for grabs?
 * All 40 of the Council of Representatives seats are up for election

When and how do I stand for election?
 * Today is the 15th of July, the first day on which you can sign up a candidate list for election, act now because on the 21st the candidacy period will end
 * Go here and sign up a candidate list in the correct style however to stand for election you MUST have been a resident of Sylvania for at least two months prior to today
 * You can stand as a candidate in as many as five Districts, so choose those that matter most to you

When and how do I vote?
 * Sylvaniarelatedareas.pngg will begin in a weeks time on the 22nd of July and will end on the 28th of July
 * You will be able to vote in each and every district, as each are like their own mini-elections
 * As long as you are at least a citizen you can vote however the amount of votes you have depend on your official residence
 * If you have an official house within a related area and are a Sylvanian Resident then you are eligible to vote with a major vote, a minor vote as well as a support vote within all districts of that related area
 * If you have an official house within Sylvania and are a Sylvanian Resident then you are eligible to vote with a minor vote as well as a support vote in all districts
 * If you are a Lovian citizen then you are eligible to vote with a support vote in all districts
 * Go here to vote but REMEMBER you can only vote for any candidate once, if you are confused however simply cast your votes and we will be at hand to help smooth out any problems

What will the council do once it's elected?
 * It will propose legislation to the Sylvanian Constitution and the Sylvanian State Law
 * It will vote on legislation in the Sylvanian Constitution and the Sylvanian State Law
 * It will have an influence over how Sylvania is governed
 * It will advise the Governor on actions to take in Sylvania

~ Election of the Senate ~

What's up for grabs?
 * All 10 of the Senate seats are up for election

When and how do I stand for election?
 * Today is the 15th of July, the first day on which you can sign up a candidacy for election, act now because on the 21st the candidacy period will end
 * Go here and sign up a candidacy in the correct style however to stand for election you MUST have been a resident of Sylvania for at least twelve months prior to today
 * You can stand as a candidate in as many as five Districts, so choose those that matter most to you

When and how do I vote?
 * Voting will begin in a weeks time on the 22nd of July and will end on the 28th of July
 * You will be able to vote in each and every district, as each are like their own mini-elections
 * As long as you have Sylvanian Residency you can vote however the amount of votes you have depend on your official residence
 * If you have an official house within a related area and are a Sylvanian Resident then you are eligible to vote with a major vote, a minor vote as well as a support vote within all districts of that related area
 * If you have an official house within Sylvania and are a Sylvanian Resident then you are eligible to vote with a minor vote as well as a support vote in all districts
 * Go here to vote but REMEMBER you can only vote for any candidate once, if you are confused however simply cast your votes and we will be at hand to help smooth out any problems

What will the council do once it's elected?
 * It will vote on legislation in the Sylvanian Constitution and the Sylvanian State Law
 * It will have an influence over how Sylvania is governed
 * It will advise the Governor on actions to take in Sylvania

~ Extra Info ~
 * For more help concerning this issue contact Lukas Hoffmann, the Governor of Sylvania

Thank you for your time. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 16:51, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Topaz, we have a map game over at Conworlds going on, and I wanted to know if you'd like to join? Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 23:31, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

Forgot my sig. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 23:31, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

I've only been in Sylvania for about three weeks now, so I won't be able to participate. As for the TEP, the other player said that they are willing to part with some of their territory as the game hasn't started yet, and I can add another island to the map, as I did for the green island in the southwest yesterday. So you can choose and I'll handle the rest. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 13:46, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Our Campaign


Expand education, Create services, Sponsor Business, Support Sylvania

What Have we Done?

Here in the State
 * We have worked hard to ensure that democracy is strong in Sylvania, we have devolved powers down to local levels so that people who care about places can have their say on what goes
 * We have established the very state council we are now electing members to, so that the Governor cannot act in an authoritarian manner on issues important to all
 * We have worked on expanding information about the State, such as road maps, railway maps, what settlements are like what and have worked towards documenting a colourful and detailed history of the state
 * We have worked across the party line to establish a much needed railway line to Charleston, ensuring that it's economy can grow and prosper and that transportation is more accessible to all
 * We have revived the fruitful, interesting and varied culture of the State, and are asking others to help us in this revival
 * We have started the repair work on Train Village and are planning further works as part of the local government to improve it as a part of the state

Across the entire Nation
 * We have updated our national police so that they are a modern force that can combat the problems Lovia faces, the new potential of our police has been proven recently and stability is at it's highest since before the civil war
 * We are working with parties across the spectrum to establish vital legislation that Lovia needs or else it will be inable to run as a modern and liberal nation
 * We are working towards supporting Unions so that all workers have the chance to defend their livelihoods however protecting Unions from being exploited by unhealthy interests as well

Our Policies

There isn't much time until the November State elections, and each round of proposing and voting on legislation takes two weeks, so we are setting out three main points we want to work towards. This is to allow time for other issues and to hopefully get one Act passed a month.

State Education Act
 * Legislate for the establishment of a school support system, including a voucher system to expand choice and school start-up grants, to help get the necessary schools started so that all Sylvanians can be assured of a quality education
 * Should the private sector fail to make use of the grants, I'd like to build community owned schools using State funds, operated by the community and for the community

Public Services Act
 * Legislate for the establishment of a proper healthcare system, which will include the funding for the creation of clinics in all major settlements (villages and above), so that every Sylvanian knows they can get care wherever they are
 * Legislate for the establishment of a Sylvanian fire service, which will operate out of every major settlement, work to expand knowledge about fire safety and assure protection for all Sylvanians
 * Legislate for the establishment of a Sylvanian waste service, which will operate out of every major settlement and keep Sylvania's streets clean and ensure that as much recycling is done as possible with waste produced
 * Legislate for the establishment of a Sylvanian water service, which will operate in every major settlement and will provide clean hot and cold running tap water for all of Sylvania

Commercial Activity Act
 * Legislate for the establishment of a business support system, including a start-up grant system, to generate more independent businesses in Sylvania and allow every Sylvanian the chance to pursue an independent life in business

So if you like what we've done, like what you see us planning to do then and want Sylvania to have a better education system, better public services and more support for businesses then VOTE CNP! Give us your Major, Minor or Support, anything will do, because a vote from you means another voice for you in government and another ear for you to speak to

More Personally
We run on a generally similar bandwidth on what we support or at least I've found that as we've gone through our time in Congress together, in the interests of a possible coalition at the ends of this, I'd like it if we can both show each other some support. I hope you'll consider voting for my lists, thank you. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 13:44, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

I'm hoping to form a coalition with you, PL and CCPL definitely and with LP (or UL whatever it is at the time) and Abrahams if they want in. Would you also be up for a reformation of the Libertarian coalition? Even if it only contains PL, CNP and GP, hopefully SLP would also want in but I don't know. We could work together in the State Elections and also in the Federal Elections (coming up with 4 or so bills that we'll pass together over the course of the next government. I know this is a lot at the moment but I'd just like your considerations on the matter. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 19:45, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

The Libertarian Coalition does sound like a good idea, but in the Sylvania elections, if you'd add CCPL in, you'd have every single party in the coalition, wouldn't you? Isn't that a bit strange? 77topaz (talk) 20:11, July 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Glad you're on board with the Libertarian Coalition. On the coalition, not so much in Lovia, we have a culture of co-operation (admittedly fostered more recently under conservative governments), plus we'll have items of debate besides what the coalition aims are and who knows we might end up with a completely weird coalition in Sylvania of GP, CNP and UL, which would certainly be interesting :L Hoffmann LogoCNP2.png Kunarian TALK 20:20, July 26, 2013 (UTC)