User talk:Kunarian

Welcome!
Hi, welcome to Wikination, the Lovia wiki! Thanks for your edit to the User:Kunarian page. Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Ooswesthoesbes (Talk) 16:29, June 24, 2011


 * Hello there! Nice to see you hopping in. Little question: why does your page say 'I am the Kunarian'?  07:05, June 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * There is no reason, I can't remember why I put it there in fact (bit forgetful), I think I put it there to fill space until I got my stuff together. 82.14.55.61 07:49, June 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * I see. Is there a story behind that user name? Not exactly 'MisterHappy99' is it?  06:47, June 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * nickname since I was a kid, but back then it was spelt Connorian (guess my first name!). Cause when I was little I got into lots of trouble and would always tell my mum and brothers that one day I would make my own country and name it Connoria (up until the age of 11). Hell i even got a wad of papers here all about the nation. I then worked with my brothers to create an entire world of fiction at the age of 13 and then changed the name of Connoria to Kunaria (made it more primitive to make it less, my first name with "ia" added on). Again I have a box or two of papers on these nations, I even have a half completed novel. But now that work is piling up I just don't have the time to work on it. But yeah thats the long story. Short story is - I made a nation called Kunaria. One day I got steam and so made my username Kunarian because its my nickname. And so I am the Kunarian. Its so individual nearly everything I've joined I've been able to use it in its raw form. Kunarian 00:00, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * How I love user names with a decent story behind them, a little personal history. Thanks for sharing with me.  11:12, June 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem, happy to share. :D Kunarian 12:03, June 29, 2011 (UTC)

Lukas Hoffmann
Since no other party is willing to do this, I would like to add Hoffman on the Congresspeople Act on behalf of the Conservative Nationalist Party, replacing our Congresswoman Reinhardt. The Master&#39;s Voice 19:04, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * This would mean your party would have an official seat in Congress (1 of the 100) and would have a say in voting, albeit a small one. Agreed? The Master&#39;s Voice 19:05, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes that would be great, thanks! sorry I was away, I went to visit a family member over the weekend. Kunarian 20:16, July 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, never mind. You, in the person of Mr. Hoffman, are now a member of the Congress. But I must ask you to write a nice article about him soon. Success, and enjoy politics and writing! The Master&#39;s Voice 20:27, July 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you, ever helpful Kunarian 20:40, July 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I am sure you'll like it. Lovia is one of the best nation-wiki's around, it has a very long and interesting editing history, and a great set of colourful users and editors. The Master&#39;s Voice 20:46, July 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * If you like you can also have my Matthew Grant character who's in Congress at the moment, as long as you keep him as an independent. I always felt new users didn't have enough to do. By the way: welcome to Lovia! --Semyon 20:49, July 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, btw when you say independent what do you mean, do you mean i can't make him CNP? and thank you for the welcome! Kunarian 21:00, July 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, I have nothing against the CNP, but we only have 2 independents at the moment, that's all, and I like independents. Also I saw you got into a bit of an argument with Marcus. I suggest you to be a bit more careful - it's very easy to get yourself disliked on this wiki. :) --Semyon 19:41, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok! and by the way I don't try to get into arguments, I just won't be called such things being a real life conservative. Its one thing if I was to argue with him over danish cheese and if it smells more than swedish cheese or something but he was attacking the general conservative population for no real reason. Kunarian 19:52, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * But, it's politics so arguments will come naturally =] Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:28, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Very true! I may have overlooked that bit :D Kunarian 21:53, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Back!
Glad to see you've returned! Like the Lovian Land Army idea. Reminds me a bit of the Brigade, albeit with a more clean-cut, nicer image. The glorious First Consul of Rome 13:51, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

The Lovian Land Army is exactly what they say on the tin, while simular to the brigade they are not in posession of mil-grade weapons, I like them because they can be a casual topic (hunting) as well as serious (riots). Kunarian 13:53, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back! —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 13:56, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! Kunarian 13:58, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Hey! You left. We still need new users around here. We're wrapping up the Civil War at the moment, so there's still time to be involved. After that, we'll go into a peace era. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:19, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

We'd really like for you to come live in Charleston, there is plenty of opportunity here! Richard Creed 23:24, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. . . next time you complain about the government, remind that yourself you should've run for Congress. :P You should return, honestly. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 02:10, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I've been reading, and I've heard you claim to be conservative. That's cool. If you'd like, you can create a character and join Positive Lovia. Perhaps you can ever run for MOTC in the new elections, if you'd like. Either way, cheers! --LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss) 22:28, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

I'm Lukas Hoffmann leader of the Nationalist Conservative Party, but I've been looking over the Positive Lovia party and maybe we could campaign together as we seem to have very common goals. Maybe we could organise a campaign rally to further the interests of conservative Lovia and back each other on certain items? does the proposal sound good? Kunarian 22:36, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe Positive Lovia, the Liberal Democratic Party, and Conservative Nationalist Party would all like to be in a large political coalition of liberal (note to Kunarian: This does not mean leftist, this means libertarian in US terms) parties? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:23, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good, I'll read up on your policies first. Kunarian 23:27, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, we seem aligned enough. And should hold a good amount of voting power. Kunarian 23:30, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, then during the voting session we can all support each other, and make sure all of us are in the coalition in the lame duck period. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:34, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Good, this should get us up and started properly. Kunarian 23:37, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good! --LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss) 15:48, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking about making a new timeline on Conworlds, I know you like Germany and all, would you like to help me get an idea going and you could move NGE to it? I was hoping to get Time, Norton, on board. -Sunkist- 22:23, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

yeah probably I'd have to see what it was first though. Kunarian 22:27, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Well I need help on an idea, I was thinking about a more 'Modern' setting. -Sunkist- 22:30, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

I'd be game for most things. But I like the idea of a more structured gameplay so that it isn't all theory based. Like everett saying it can kill everything, it'd be fine if it managed to earn its way to that point but just to write a page saying that drones destroy all can annoy new players. I think that it would be interesting to do either a ww1 era like game or a space empire type game. Kunarian 22:33, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

I like the 'past' idea, I also like the anti-theory base. I'm just not sure how we can inplace that type of system, what do you want to name the timeline? -Sunkist- 22:38, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

I have a system (albiet a bit complex), If we played I would happily monitor it by myself (so no workload goes onto others) and give information and admin events based on it. The timeline name needs to explain the game simply but be interesting but when you say in the past, when is it set and what makes it different from real life. Kunarian 22:42, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Can you come to Conworlds chat? -Sunkist- 22:44, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Plaza Downtown
Granted. -- 02:52, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

On the Goyou logo that you uploaded, I would recommend you use Helvetica instead of Arial, because Helvetica has a superior capital G (with a tapering tail-thing instead of just a curve) when compared to Arial. If you don't have the Helvetica font, I might be able to do it myself this afternoon. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:38, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, then I'll probably do it on the weekend then. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 00:00, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Lovia Times
Why don't you add a section where people can suggest future entries and submit interesting news, etc.? Also, is there an actual "archive" option where readers can view past submissions and articles? --LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss) 23:10, December 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * If there is an archive, it should always be linked on the actual newspage so that it's easy to reach. It's not fun to have to look for it for hours.
 * PS: Isn't the return of Ygo August Donia pretty fucking big news? The glorious First Consul of Rome 23:16, December 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Feel free to suggest future articles here! plus I have linked the archive and main page together. I have been away this weekend so will need to catch up. Kunarian 22:40, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, that sounds interesting. If it does involve a military though, please keep some of the terms of my original proposal in mind. It would make me very happy. Cheers, -- LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss) 01:47, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

I'd created the Lovian Coastal Police so that they could assume the roll of a navy, and I'd be their naval leader. That's sort of been my dream for a while. Oh, and after these elections, I might very well get voted in by majority. Heck, I might even hold multiple seats. Do you doubt that I'll get voted into Congress? What seats do you currently hold? Sorry I'm so frank, but it would be stupid to have so many armed men at Lovias disposal, and than to have a whole other army formed. The idea seems inconsiderate. -- LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss) 01:57, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

I was not in the last election, my seats are numbering "one". But the law is on my side and I cannot allow one user to hold such power look what almost happened the last time it was so. Kunarian 02:03, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Plus you seem to have missed the LLA who have been around since before the civil war but I'm not intent on militarising them. I want an armed forces that no one person can manipulate for their own ends. Kunarian

RE:Lovian Economic Union
Sure, I'd love to join! Put in Goyou and Ventex. --J&bull;t 18:49, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Great! that makes Kameron Industries, Goyou and Ventex. If we get Plus Company it should work! However be ready for them to refuse, we may just need to out compete them. Kunarian 18:52, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Lovian Military
I get what your trying to do, but damn it calm down! No one can keep up with you posting shit about the Special Forces here and there. Granero still doesn't understand your argument, but I offered to help him and have taken the liberty of removing the Special Forces from the Federal Police, and making it where they dissolved after you started pressing them. Now you have no one to sue. And don't try to press charges because of their activity after the war, because there truly is no evidence that they even were active after the war. What could they fight for? That is all, I'll give you the time to drop your charges. -- LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss) 01:11, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

All charges dropped. Sorry but Lovia will never get an armed forces that way, its more damaging to the campaign than you think. The entire argument over it simply made it worse. I have no problem with members of the special forces joining the Lovian military when we set it up and the same for the coastal police but in truth we need a Lovian Military completely seperate from our police. We need to start from the very bottom and build up with the military. Who knows we may even need a new office called the department of defence. This is all achievable but we need to act together with forces but we also need to make heavy compromises on the new bills we make for the military, every failed bill damages the chances of a military being established. 82.18.203.83 01:23, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not giving up on my vision. If a separate Navy is formed, it will surely put the Coastal Police out of business. If it has to be this way, let the best man win, but hopefully, we will truly be able to work together on the same side one day. -- LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss) 01:31, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

You think it could backfire? I don't see your reasoning. -- LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss - What's up) 02:31, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I hear what your saying. I just hope you don't try and beat me to it. :) -- LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss - What's up) 03:01, December 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * That's a big discussion your guys are having! Keep it coming! :P The glorious First Consul of Rome 14:01, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Electorial Support
Is this fraud? If not, okay. --J&bull;t 01:47, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, then, I will vote for you. --J&bull;t 02:29, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Kunarian, where are you? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 13:40, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

I forgot--which day were you going to come back? Voting is open, by the way. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:36, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

You Decide 2012
You Decide 2012!

Hello,, it's time to vote! If you already did, great, but here's some tips for everyone.

Tips

 * Don't vote for "abstentioners". PM Villanova has stated this in his outgoing campaign speech, and voting for them just makes everything worse. So don't do that. :P
 * Take your time and decide carefully. Voting closes at January 21, so why fret?
 *  I ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE A BUDDHIST  - No sectarian crap, swy. ;(

Respond here for anything about YD2012. -- 16:48, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

I responded to your question on my own talk page, but you're still working on that defense force act, right? It is going very well. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:53, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

So you're quitting this Coalition because we can't decide on who will be Minister of Defense? Come on, Kunarian. There can still be a good solution to this. (And why are the leftist candidates better than LDP or PL?) —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 19:08, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oos will make an excellent Prime Minister. :) The glorious First Consul of Rome 19:13, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Well, that's right. I'd be willing to consider an alliance with the conservative christians but I'd prefer not, because I don't want them to make Christian policies into law (I prefer secularism). And even if you want to stop working with PL, I (the LDP) would like like to remain in an alliance with the CNP anyway. You, Pikapi, and I should all come on this chat. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 19:55, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

So yeah, I'd like your votes back since we can still ally. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:27, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I will give them back but only as a support vote atm, I need to keep some balance in the game for the time being. Kunarian 17:44, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I think we're continuing the Coalition, so can you please restore your old votes? Also, Torres needs more votes than anyone else in the Coalition. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:46, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Until I can be sure we have resolved the Defence Seat then I will remain out of the coalition. It is simply politics. Plus Pikapi doens't want to compromise and is on the stance of the seat being "his seat and only his seat", And when I have explained my policies without saying anything to him, he comes back to try and have a go. He needs to compromise or find a seat that suits him better before we can progress as a coalition again. Kunarian 16:54, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

I'll wait until your act is finished before I give a decisive answer. I don't know what kind of stuff you'd throw into your act in order to belittle my position if I was to accept. I'm sure that you can understand that. --— Christopher Costello (Pikapi • Chat  • What's up ) 00:57, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Then can we restore the Coalition or not yet? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 01:04, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

After I finish my act then, we will have the meeting deciding the future of the coalition. 82.18.198.107 01:08, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

You know Mandarin Chinese?
If you know it, please tell me what "我的妈呀. . . " means, as a fluent speaker. Otherwise I will remove your statement on Lukas Hoffmann saying you know Mandarin. -- 16:19, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

You cannot remove it, thats like saying I should go and purge everyone who says they know German on their character pages, I don't know why you think you can do that. My character knows mandarin not me. Kunarian 16:23, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

>:-( I do not like that argument. It still is not a plausible choice. I will remove the "Mandarin Chinese" part if you do not respond within 24 hours. -- 17:00, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

You do not have the right to do that. Kunarian 17:03, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. How far would you take this, Jeff? Would you remove the statement on Yuri's page that he speaks Russian, so he had to change his entire character? --Semyon 16:00, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Btw, Kunarian, would you be interested in joining a conservative coalition? It would seem to make a lot more sense than Labour. Your choice, of course, tho'. :) --Semyon 16:00, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

@Jeff: My broken Chinese knowledge says it has something to do with your mother :P The three dots at the end make me think it would be something like "oh my god..." :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:10, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

I thought it was "your mum" :P Kunarian 20:03, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Query
Kunarian, can you clarify if you prefer to be classified as liberal or conservative? TM and I are having a slight dispute in the pub. :) --Semyon 21:24, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Conservative in Lovia is both conservative in social and economic issues, and since he is mostly libertarian, he'd be a liberal, which does NOT mean leftist... —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:28, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Of course I know liberal doesn't mean leftist, I'm not an idiot. --Semyon 21:37, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, I'm asking Kunarian, not you. --Semyon 21:38, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

I can't. It says "View source" instead of "Edit". Daembrales 21:51, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

hmm. let me check. Kunarian 21:57, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

I think I just don't have enough days of being on the wiki. Daembrales 22:13, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe it's a Wikia thing for new users. Daembrales 22:28, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

The rules say new users need 4-day and 50 edits of activity before being made citizens. But, they all live in Europa and will soon be going to sleep (like me), so you would have to wait until tomorrow. HORTON11 : •  22:32, January 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Right, I was just looking at the constitution. doesn't give a day count on there I don't think. Kunarian 22:36, January 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's a site-related problem, not a citizen-related one. Anyway, with SOPA coming up, I do advise you guys to pack all your belongings and move to Europe :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:06, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

You still need to write the names of your congresspeople and their political parties on the page. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:01, January 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * I am don't worry. Just making the people first. Kunarian 16:03, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Categories
Hey, could you please make sure that when you create new articles, you add categories such as "Living person", "Politician" etc? Thank you :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:31, January 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * Wilco. Kunarian 16:17, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Kunarian, you still have to finish your National Congressperson Order. Would you please make some of your remaining 3 slots be for the Progressive Conservative Party? Thanks. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:06, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Supreme Court
Yes? No? Do you want to be the next Supreme Court Justice? Vote here now! -- 15:21, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Ministries
Hi Kunarian, would you make logos for all the ministries, please? The Ministry of Defence one looks superb. It's not a dire need, though. Just take your time and make every logo good. And they should all be seals and say Ministry of X on them. Thanks in advance if you're willing! —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 01:50, February 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Be happy to Kunarian 02:44, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, you're logos are nice. What program do you use to create your images? Also, how is your military act going? — Christopher Costello (Pikapi • Chat  • What's up ) 16:00, February 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Artweaver is the program I use, its no photoshop but it does its job. And the military act is coming along fine, just a little more time. Kunarian 16:11, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Do you to add anything to the Job Bureau Plan Pierlot McCrooke 16:06, February 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll see if there is anything I can add. Kunarian 16:11, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Honestly
Through all this confusion, Nice seals on the ministry pages :D i really like them, did you create them or get them somewhere. Anyway, there's still really really nice. Good Job :D Marcus/Michael Villanova 01:33, February 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much, I do make them myself, takes about 30 minutes to an hour to get nice clean edges however. Hope that the confusion can end soon so we can get to government. Kunarian 14:13, February 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * Fancy joining in this W.W. 1 game on an this Althistory site.86.24.14.57 03:05, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Fancy joining in this W.W. 1 game on an this Althistory site.86.24.14.57 03:05, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Seal
Really nice seal on the Foreign Affairs page, Kunarian, I love it. :) --Semyon 19:02, February 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah real nice, Can i have one for Tourism and Sport? Marcus/Michael Villanova 19:06, February 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Wilco but I'm currently doing some work, will try today if not tomoow. Kunarian 19:09, February 24, 2012 (UTC)


 * You make good seals. Will you make other seals from other ministries and villages who needs also a seal but at ease! You have time and if you not like my proposal, somebady other does it. Wabba The I 20:37, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

Attack Ad
Hey Kun, I'm working on an attack ad against the Labour Party (not to be taken seriously, just making it for fun). It'll be a slideshow with sound and text and such turned into a movie. Any suggestions? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 01:14, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Supreme Court Judge
Hey, could you consider nominating a character to become on of three Supreme Court Judges here? (btw: if you plan to bring a court case in the near future, please don't do it, because that causes problems.) Thanks. :) --Semyon 10:14, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Bretherland
Check Bretherland! I have add a newspaper (Brethish Times), political parties (Conservative Party of Bretherland, Green Party, Social Democratic Party), politicians (Joseph Honest, Freya Conway, Samuel Davies), a radio station (RealMusic) and others (Caroline Smith). Wabba The I 12:16, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

Delete kane Publishing?
Hi Kunarian, I saw you haven't edited the stub Kane Publishing for a few months and wondered if you would mind if it were deleted. --Semyon 13:34, May 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * No, it's integral to the Kameron family history I'm just in exams at the moment and so am finding it hard to get all my smaller articles up to size. Kunarian 16:17, May 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem, good luck with your exams. :) --Semyon 20:14, May 23, 2012 (UTC)

Hey
How's your National Guard article coming along? Just curious, it was a while ago that anyone last discussed it, I think. — Christopher Costello (Pikapi • Chat  • What's up ) 00:21, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Technically if I just pushed for one or two more days I could probably finish it, however exams have stopped me in my tracks, luckily exams are over completely next week which should give me free time to finish it completely, I still support the idea however I am more realistic with the armament needs now. Kunarian 07:39, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Citizenship
Hey, I just noticed you're not yet officially a citizen of Lovia, probably because you haven't yet bought a house. This means technically you shouldn't be in Congress. :P Could you buy at least one residence somewhere in Lovia, so we can add you to the citizen list?

I guess you've finished your exams now - hope they went well! :) --Semyon 14:54, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

I do have a house and 50 edits I have everything! :D Hoffmann is a citizen through and through :L Kunarian 20:29, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I'd better add you to the citizen list though. :P Where's your house? I searched for it but couldn't find it. --Semyon 08:26, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

I swear hoffmann is already on the page, can you link me it :P the house is in The Mall neighborhood in Noble City Kunarian 10:33, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, so you are. :P I feel like an idiot now...:P --Semyon 11:47, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

No worries, at least someone is at least checking these things, imagine if I was running around in congress without citizenship, that would be both funny and deeply upsetting that no one had noticed :L Kunarian 12:50, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

2012 Federal Police Reform
I plan on proposing a new law, the 2012 Federal Police Reform to congress and I would like your input and hopefully your support. If your not away, get back to me! — Christopher Costello  (Pikapi • Chat  • What's up ) 01:19, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Working on the Federal Police reform
Alright, I've been checking out your progress on the Federal Police article and I noticed that you made some changes to the rank structure that are not a part of the ranking system in the proposed reform. I'm sure that you know what you are doing to an extent, but the system I proposed was good because it was very linear and in accordance with what you see elsewhere in the world, only integrated to better suit a national police force. My system was based on the traditional nine officer pay grades plus the additional commander of the force "special" pay grade, commonly found in militarized forces. Lieutenant ranks, for instance, are also common in most police forces, yet you removed them for some reason. Keep in mind that we are collaborating on this. Can you please give me the purpose of these added ranks? Also, are there any changes you would like to see made to the bureaus? — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello  (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 16:49, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

I saw that the was designed to be applicable to both military and police it would seem however for the sake of civility as well as stability I thought it better if we did not so openly declare a need for such a system. And I understand that part of your aim was to make them compatible with foreign forces. And I'm sorry for changing it without talking but I had energy and you know how little of that you find nowadays. The new ranking system was made so to give each rank a more specific task. The cadets were a brilliant but simple idea on your account which I expanded, and then the Corporal ranks were to be the standard policemen, the Sergeants command them in teams of four (Sergeant included), The inspector then commands a squad of three teams with the Chief inspector commanding the 1st squad which will act as a more experienced unit within the local Bureau which will be headed by the Superintendent who will be under the command of the Chief (commands the Precinct). The Commissioner is the big boss and the assistant Commissioners are the big bosses of each Bureau. I find it to be a much more fluid system for Lovia, as it has a direct and simple rank structure and will seem less like a militarised police. The Bureaus? Security Bureau is A-ok along with the Coastal security Bureau and the Traffic Security Bureau however I would prefer if we got rid of the counter terrorism bureau and combined it with the Investigations Bureau, this'll make it simpler and plus it falls partly under the same area and would allow us to have one big tough bureau that can tackle things a little bit bigger than the ordinary seecurity can handle. Also the Royal Guard, I think we should expand them, make them a fully fledged Bureau with more officers, this way we can have a proper Lovian defense force which protect the Royals and government in times of peace and can be used to protect Lovia in times of conflict. Kunarian (talk) 17:15, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for clearing up the ranks, it makes more sense now. One problem I have with them, however, is that you seem to have "Precinct Chiefs" in the Federal Police staff chart. Precinct Chief isn't a rank, so it appears that those who run the precincts are outside of the standardized rank structure, which doesn't seem right, or I might just be misunderstanding it. On a separate note, I agree that it would be a good idea to combine counter-terrorism into investigations, so I'll be on that as soon as possible. I don't think that it would be wise, however, to give the Royal Guard much responsibility. Its only a "bureau" in title, because it has a unique responsibility to protect the royal family (and sometimes government officials, though I disagree with this personally). It seems safe to say that the Royal Guard is probably only about the size of a platoon and that they are more for ceremonial purposes at that. If its a military you want, I think that it would be best that you stick to your National Guard Act for now because I don't think that any branch of the Federal Police could suffice for a military defense force. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello  (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 17:46, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

Precinct Chief is actually just a Chief, what I must have mistakenly written is something in bad grammar. I'll agree as the main thing is the overhaul of the police but the Royal Guard are of course going to be just like the Royal Guard of the UK, nice to look at but also deadly should you try anything funny. We'll see how things develop on Lovia's defense in the future. Kunarian (talk) 18:00, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

We probably should just keep this conversation on one talk page. So your saying that the individuals who lead the Precincts are Chiefs, and that the people who lead the bureaus are Assistant Commissioners? That is kind of sloppy because that would mean that I'm the Assistant Commissioner of the Federal Police, but the Commissioner of the Federal Bureau of Coastal Security. Also, there would be an five different Assistant Commissioners of the Federal Police, one for each bureau, if you do things that way. I am thoroughly confused by this. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello  (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 18:21, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

Right. and yes that is what I'm saying, and the reason it isn't sloppy is because you need people who focus on a national level and those who focus on a regional level, especially considering we have two things to add rank to (Precincts and Bureaus, Precincts being regional and Bureaus being national). And you are the Assistant Commissioner rank which means you command a Bureau, it happens here in the UK, as in we have at least 4 Assistant Commissioners that I know of which are just known as Assistant Commissioners but have their own department or bureau that they lead. It really doesn't mean more confusion in the big picture but a distributed work load as well as a garunteed group of people ready to take the helm as Commissioner should the call be sounded. Kunarian (talk) 18:46, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, so does that mean that my title also Commissioner of the Federal Bureau of Coastal Security? — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello  (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 19:06, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

Yes. :) Kunarian (talk) 20:44, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

I don't know
I don't think i've heard your opinion on the reform in the first chamber about state legislatures and empowering sttates. I need all votes I can get, please support it. Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:40, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Other people have problems that seem to be quite legitimate, rattle them down by dealing with the seemingly added bureaucracy and uneeded complexity and you'll have my support, I'm going to look over it now to see what's going on. Kunarian (talk) 15:45, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Well, It's state government. As a "libertarian" It takes away power from the centralized government and to the states. I took away the check and balance of the two to leave the states with more power. Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:49, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

But the note of Bureaucracy clashes with this benefit of devolution. I'm going to read everything over properly before I give my true and final verdict. Kunarian (talk) 16:49, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Seals for the remaining ministries
Hi Kunarian. When you can, could you work on the seals for the remaining ministries? You can visit the pages of each ministry. Those with a broken image link have no seal. Make sure to upload them to the image names in the articles. Thanks in advance. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:30, September 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sure I can do that Kunarian (talk) 22:35, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

Please don't do such edits without consultation first. It's okay for now, but perhaps another time it'll not be okay :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:53, September 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sure will Oos, I was just trying to get some stuff out of the way. Kunarian (talk) 17:04, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem, the user's been inactive for way too long. But there could be other plans with the area and then it would be unhelpful to place your company where other things will be built :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:10, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's mainly why I'm trying to make it so that I only have 1 place taken up for each company, instead of 17 that I don't even know where they are or why they are there. Also I think I'm currently employing 510 Oceana people, which is just above 1% of people in Oceana, I don't know if you like statistics but the idea of that is just awesome to me :) Kunarian (talk) 17:28, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm the wikistatistics man: :P I'm glad you want to be bring "a few" jobs to Oceana; we can use that :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:46, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Awesome, I do enjoy a good taste of statistics :D I know it's not much but they are secure jobs if anything :) Kunarian (talk) 18:04, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, unemployment just dropped about 10%, so it's pretty much I'd say :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:08, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Good! speaking of which what is the current unemployment/employment rates in Oceana? :P Kunarian (talk) 09:16, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * It was 9,8%, but I think it would be something like 8,4% now :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:31, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I geuss that's a good improvement, how do you work that out though? If you could tell :D Kunarian (talk) 09:41, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've got all excel files on Oceana on my computer :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:21, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

Firearms
While we're working on the production of firearms, I just got Costello Enterprises Munitions up and running. How would you feel about the Federal Police adopting the CE P12 as a standard-issue weapon? I was also be interested to know if Kameron Armaments might be interested in coordinating and working together with Costello Enterprises Munitions. We're working on designing Lovian cartridges, and it might be easier if Lovia standardized its ammunition like you see with NATO and other weapon manufacturers. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello  (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 15:32, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

I saw, and I'm suprised that we'll both be using pimp your gun for our weapon systems :L I'll be honest, I don't feel comfortable with it being adopted over the entire force. However I think that it may be of use in a specific part of the force such as the Coastal Security Bureau due to it's carbine-esc nature which as you might know is useful at sea however its cartridge is a neutral to drawback situation being unique and all which in the guns business isn't always a pro, if you could meat out the statistics of the weapon (nothing too big just the standard things you might see on a wikipedia page) we could progress a bit further. And on co-ordination I have a nice little idea that I'll keep as a little surprise that should make you and me and some people in train village very happy. However on more instant co-ordination Kameron shall consider the offer. It's not a bad idea, however Kameron produces remington-clone cartridges which work fantastically (and can load Nato cartridges as a result albeit at lower performance) and all of its older weapons use them too so it's not a good decision for Kameron Industries really unless you want to standardise to remington levels too. Kunarian (talk) 15:49, September 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well I'm not happy to be using such a simple program, but as I'm sure you know, I don't have any decent software to be original with. If you have photoshop or anything better suited for designing guns, I think that you should use it. As for the ammunition issue, I definitely like your idea that we should stick with the almost-universal Remmington design. I'll change the CE P12's ammunition to your cartridge. I'm hoping that with our alliance (and to avoid redundancy), that we will be able to manufacture cartridges that will be compatible with each other's firearms. What is your company's name for these Remmington-clones? If we are going to be basing our ammunition on universal designs, I'd like my company to produce a rifle cartridge that's essentially identical to (and interchangeable with) the 7.62×51mm NATO for use in DMRs and sniper rifles. Also, we should making pages for our companies ammunitions, weapons, etc. — Beer.png <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 18:07, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Neither do I so Pimp my gun it is! :D Yes the Remington will be a brilliant idea, after all, it has the advantage of us being able to sell to people who don't use our weapons and on top of that they are proven, effective and cheap, great for big old Corpies. We should both release a new weapon system that has the ability to interchange cartridges or update old ones to fit the cartridges, it'd be a good start in a Lovian Economic Union (I want to come up with a newer cooler name so I'll get back to you on that) that I talked about a while ago with others (Costello Enterprises wasn't quite established yet). Well KA 5.56×45mm sounds good! And btw, Remington has a cartridge for that too! I do love Remington, way better than the silly Nato cartridges. I'm going to make two, Weapon Systems and Ammunition. Kunarian (talk) 15:01, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

Villanova's reform
Dude, can help us vote against Villanova's new reform? It'll force us to restructure the police again amongst other things. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello  (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 02:06, September 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll speak to Villanova but if he doesn't remove that part of the proposal then we can deal with it and go Contra (although I do know how complex it is so he may just go no). And I think that I'm going to devolve Police powers and give Governors power over their Local Precincts, so they'd have powers over their Local Security Bureau, Local Traffic Security Bureau and Local Coastal Security Bureau. However the Investigation Bureau and the Royal Guard would remain wholly federal. I think this would be a good idea, however its future would rely on me being Minister of Defence next year (going for it myself! I love this job! :L). Kunarian (talk) 15:13, September 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * I do think that it would be alright to break down the Federal Police where the governors have some power over the individual precincts, but only as an alternative to creating separate, state police agencies. Investigation is essentially Lovia's regular detective work agency, meaning that it should remain closely-tied to the regular security bureaus, and should go with the others if they become local. My plan for if a state police law is passed goes: we set up each of the state police forces with a security and investigation bureau and leave maintaining them to their respective governors, dissolve the Federal Police's Security and Investigations Bureaus into a single large-scale counter-terrorism bureau (much like in the US), and leave the Traffic Security and Coastal Security with the Federal Police because they generally operate in between states and major cities. That wouldn't be a horrible backup plan. — Beer.png <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 16:41, September 30, 2012 (UTC)

Clymene
Hey, according to my statistics you only have one house, in Sylvania. Perhaps you could buy a second one in Clymene and vote for George, so he'll be elected deputy? --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:30, October 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think I actually might. I've just brought a house in Plains, 10 Athens Avenue, a nice retreat from the bustle of the Sylvanian City don't you think. :) Kunarian (talk) 09:51, October 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure it is :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:01, October 13, 2012 (UTC)

Train Village
I was looking at 1 Noble Alley, Train Village as a temporary house to try and get demand into Train Village? Am I allowed a temporary house for the next few months or are you not allowed to change? Happy65

btw, thanks for your help so far.

Temporary housing is fine, and so is moving. I hope you enjoy your new home Mr. Leskromento! Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 18:47, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

I was looking to start a business in one of Noble City's big malls? Are there any restrictions. I'm doing this just to start getting used to this wiki. Dave Leskromento


 * There are none. You can just purchase any property. In Noble City only the Noble City Mall is big; most of the others are rather small. The only other big mall is Atrium Center. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:22, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Heya
Settling in now. Just wondering if I could build another railway route system termini Noble City- Clave Rock for my company (I forgot it's name!!) Happy in the House! Shout!


 * Now, when it comes to certain things such as a railway or other things those are less shall we say instantaneous in creation, it'd have to be proposed to Congress probably and would require a large amount of money to do it. You could try a private enterprise to build a railway but then you'd need my planning permission as Governor and a realistic way of funding it. Certain things in this wiki are treated more realistically otherwise we wouldn't have politics because people'd be elected then we'd "poof" in everything magically. And while that'd be easier it'd be more annoying. :L Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 16:15, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion
As a fan of your politicial party now I've found out what you do, I have a suggestion to get people to move to another city other than the overcrowded Noble City.

I thought we could bring back Muza and add 2 more settlements now Train Village Downtown is almost full. (Plus this is in the city guidlines). This way, shops will be intrested, (Well, mine certainly will be). Turn it into a developed area, shops, beaches, arcades.

Once it is granted the city right, it then can be called a more commercial name. Train City.

Happy65
 * First fill Clave Rock and Nicholasville I'd say, before we create new neighborhoods in TV. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:06, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * I certainly think development of TV is a good idea, but I'm not sure that expansion is the best way to do it. :) --Semyon 08:08, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd have to agree with them I'm afraid, Sylvania has empty homes in need of filling all over the place, Noble city being the only slightly overcrowded place in the state. However as it has been said development of TV is a good idea and I support private enterprise there however a more detailed plan is needed before we can commit. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 17:14, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Private enterprise should be more present in Train Village, though the state should take a commanding lead in any development. Expansion is not necessary for TV, but to address the issues in NC we could perhaps look into creating a suburban community outside the city, or simply just enticing others to move to TV (more business there can=more opportunity). BTW what happened to Bretherland? HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:32, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Private enterprise should be supported everywhere and should be encouraged to take the lead however in Train Village state involvement may be nessesary. And we will mainly entice people to move. And Bretherland? I'll continue it at some point however a growing work routine, Lovia and a dwindling social life are taking up my time. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 18:01, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Planning Rights
Governor of Sylvania, Lukas Hoffman, CNP.

I ask for Planning Permission on 1 Noble Alley on something will attract tourists and be a great home for me. We will also accept tours in this building and it will be a wonderful place.

It will look like Burj Al Arab in Dubai but a little bit different. The building will be called 1 Noble Alley. It will be lime green instead of blue and there will be no other major differences.

I have sufficient funding to make this as I won the lottery as you can see on the history of the Dave Leskromento page.

Your Sincerely, Dave Leskromento

Dave, you do not need to ask permission to build something. Unless it is something utterly ridiculous like a gold palace it should be OK. HORTON11 : •  15:17, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Horton's technically right, but Lovia is a very small country and large skyscrapers just aren't realistic. We had similar projects before (e.g. Hotel North) and it had to be demolished, so I wouldn't advise you to create a building like that. Your edits are appreciated, though. :) --Semyon 15:27, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Semyon's said all. I like your ideas though, keep them coming, just tone them down. :) Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 17:16, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Economy
Is it alright if I interview Mr. Hoffmann for the Economy newspaper? I know what your promises were in your campaign, but I would like to know what your plans are now that you have been elected. HORTON11 : •  15:24, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Now that you are elected governor, will your plans change from those promised in your campaign?
 * 2) Will you commit to spending on green initiatives?
 * 3) What is your stance regarding expenditure and taxation for your plans?
 * 4) Will you ensure the state or state bodies be responsible for carrying out you projects and objectives, will the private sector be given a free hand? Or, do you hope to form a balance between the two?  HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:29, October 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sure, post the questions and I'll answer them. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 17:11, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * No, we will keep to our policies, like Abrahams says 'A promise made is a promise kept' and that's exactly how we are going to operate. We will maintain our focus of helping the poor with relief in the form of fighting taxes and giving welfare, growing our currently strained education system and expanding the rights of the states to make their own choices so that our plans can be furthered in the future much more easily. These are cast iron guarantees and were not made just to get us elected.
 * We will definitely commit to green initiatives, we hope that our ally the New Green Party will join us in this and build upon the sustainable cause in Sylvania. However we will not commit heavy spending to it unless there is a truly valid and heavily supported reason to do so. Our main commitments remain to those promises I made when we started the campaign.
 * While we hope that soon states will be able to tax for themselves they cannot at the moment and until that changes we cannot answer that side of the question. Spending can be much more easily detailed however and I'm sure that people are just as concerned as to whether too much spending will be done or whether not enough will. Currently the only things that will be big spending projects are going to be the re organisation of the education system and the stimulus planned for Train Village, however we are sure that these will pay off in the long run and I believe that the only people who would oppose these measures, which are not only beneficial for local communities, Sylvania and the Country as a whole, are people whose opinions are quite frankly either ill informed or very very wrong.
 * The only area we strongly believe will require a completely state headed initiative to get things moving will be in Train Village, when it comes to the education re organisation we will co ordinate and assist private companies in the expansion. However on our other policies things remained a bit mixed and we believe that this is good because each situation has it's own needs, you can't apply government to everything and nor can you apply private enterprise to everything, we understand that to solve a problem you must aproach it with the right tools. Our Welfare plans and our Social and Business Start-up programs will be government led however the actual construction of the secondary and tertiary industry we want to support will be managed by the private sector. So for now it's a harmonious balance and it looks like it will be kept that way.

I hope that's answered your questions. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 18:32, October 17, 2012 (UTC)

Before I decide
One last question about the State Elections? Say if I joined the PL and the leader, Chris, was the Sylvania Delegate, he went in the elections. Would I still be allowed to enter the Seven elections (having a house) or can there only be one person per party. Dave Leskromento


 * There can be as many people per party entering state elections. Technically you could enter two people into the same state for the elections.


 * So if your party leader was the Sylvania delegate and entered the elections there and you were the Seven delegate then there would be no problems at all with you entering the Seven elections. Hope this helps. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 16:24, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

In the Party
What is it like in the CNP? Dave

Just kidding. Never mind that question. It's a hard one to answer. I will apply for CNP Seven delegate. Happy65

I was having trouble there, it is definitely a hard question to pin down. :L sure we'll have you, remember to read up on our 2012 policies as well as our up and coming 2013 policies when they come out (you can disagree with some policies as we give our people leeway but of course you wouldn't be in the party if you didn't agree with the basic ideas). Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 16:54, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

I have. When shall I read out my MOTC speech. Mr Dave. Leskromento will certainly agree with the basic ideas Why wouldn't he? :D

Go to speakers corner and do it when you want! I'll give you Victor Kozaks seat in Congress, you can now vote on Congressional matters. :D Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 17:06, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

NGP
Did you upload the logo of New Green Party?--George the Greek (talk) 08:34, October 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * No just a poster for the NGP. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 10:56, October 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, pal!--George the Greek (talk) 11:55, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

Meeting
Do you think we should have a CNP and sylvanian-affiliated parties meeting? I think the small parties could benefit and we could benefit from their ideas. Dave Leskromento (Talk)


 * We will! however two things must be done first: I must get Sylvania in proper order before we do anything with it and you must apply to be the Seven Deputy. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 10:56, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

RE:
I thought Seven already has a Deputy Governor, if I can still apply somehow, where? Happy65


 * I don't quite know at the moment, hang on in there, at some point today I'll try and get things organised. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 11:19, October 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sure. If you need help on something, feel free to contact me via my talk page. Happy65 LogoCNP.png
 * roger roger :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 12:12, October 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * :P I'm just reading the already done part of the 2013 CPN Policy. Let's try and get some more seats next year in the Congress. Happy65 LogoCNP.png
 * We will believe me. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 12:33, October 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Do you support the Porcine Party? hehe. Happy65 LogoCNP.png
 * haha :L I think my answer can be defined by saying that I thoroughly enjoy a full english breakfast :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 12:52, October 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * :| Anyway, see ya, I'm just going to do a bit of editing Happy65 LogoCNP.png
 * The Porcine Party is one of my proudest creations on this wiki. Porcines all the way! --Semyon 22:25, October 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Definitely one of the few things on the wikia that made me chuckle upon discovering it :L Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 22:39, October 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * ^^ Happy65 LogoCNP.png

Yeah
I'm used to citing so I marked Lars as leader but with [1] with the citing: The decision is up to TM. Happy65

Funnily enough I didn't notice them, I need more sleep. :L Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 10:10, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Our coalition
Now that time has indoctrinated combined the LDP into the new SLP, where does our coalition stand? Are we alone now, because I have a feeling that they became a whole lot more leftist. I'm not opposed to working with Time, because I know that he is a reasonable guy, I just wanted to know. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello  (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 20:03, October 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * We are still going to be working closely together even if he does emphasise a more leftist swing on things (which I don't think he will), I just think that the Libertarian coalition is now the CNP, PL and the Green Party. Personally I think that the LDP has a lot of support from active users (and therefore so will the SLP) and Labour recognise this and want a strong ally in congress (something they lack by trying to get everyone to join their party), lord knows that Labour would be down 10 to 15 seats if it wasn't for the old guard voting for them. All that's happened is that Time has rebranded to something more appropriate and Labour are swooping in to make gains. We will adapt. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 20:10, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Where did you come up with this? SLP and LDP have basically the same ideology. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:04, October 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well I knew that you were progressive, but your old party didn't have "social" in the title. lol — Beer.png <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 20:29, October 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't worry Costello, he is (as his parties name suggests) socially liberal not socialist so don't worry, CNP and PL are socially liberal and economically to the right while the SLP seems to be economically centrist. Nothings really changed with the ideology, don't worry. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 20:32, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Just so you guys know, the Greens are further left than the SLP is. It's not a libertarian party, it's just part of our little coalition. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:08, October 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think they are definitely economically left. However within our Coalition it's been the social policy that has united us. We all believe in a sense of freedom, equality and truth. On top of this where we overlap we generally support each other and coordinate which is much better than simply going it on our own. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 21:21, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

British Joke Party
Have you ever seen the best british joke party? The Official Monster Raving Loony Party. People vote for them just for fun. Happy65


 * I think my brother voted for them once, being an actual a member of a political party (which I will not disclose). Their leaders gone now but they're still a fun party to vote for. :L Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 15:47, October 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * I have. The Porcines is inspired by them, though obviously not entirely. You could say there's an additional 'smoky bacon flavour.' :P Btw Dave: are you British? (note: you don't have to answer, I don't want to force people to give me their personal information) I am, and I believe Kunarian is too. :) --Semyon 15:50, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah. I am british. There's suprisingly at lot of european people here instead of the normal lot of americans on wikis. Happy65 LogoCNP.png
 * What what old chap, good old british boy here! Yes there are a large amount of europeans and I enjoy this, closer cultures (yet still so different) and all. Costello is american and I think he may be the only active american too. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 15:54, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * :P and Dimi (I think) if you count him as 'active' Happy65 LogoCNP.png
 * Dimi is Belgian actually. --Semyon 15:57, October 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Horton, Marcus and TM are all Americans, I think. Until recently, most people were from the Netherlands and Flanders because the site was originally founded as a offshoot of the Libertas wiki. --Semyon 16:00, October 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed, couldn't have said it better :) Still, nearly all of us (the active ones) are British, American, or Limburgish :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:06, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * So basically dutch speaking areas, Netherlands, Flanders, Brussels- Capital Region? Happy65 LogoCNP.png
 * Brussels is largely francophone :( --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:16, October 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's all the Walloons isn't it? Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 16:21, October 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, apart from a few Dutch, Limburgish, Luxembourgish, and German speaking areas, most it francophone. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:23, October 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, pity really. I would hope to visit Brussels properly one day, I've been in Belgium before and had some of the fantastic chocolate! it's been delicious! :D Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 16:28, October 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Brussels used to be fully dutch before french immigrants came, and why do french stop you from going to Brussels Happy65 LogoCNP.png


 * No, money stops me from going to Brussels or more precisely a lack of it :L Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 16:38, October 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Money does not need to stop you going to Brussels. Ever heard of Megabus? They sell overnight bus seats for £1 from London to Brussels, if you book early enough. That also means you don't have to book a room in a hotel or hostel. :) I have a friend who went there for a daytrip. --Semyon 19:32, October 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * No, never heard, I might look into it though :D although I might prefer to stay in the city longer just to take a proper long look around. :) But a daytrip might be something to quench my thirst for adventure for the moment. :L Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 19:48, October 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've had a daytrip (or more precisely a few daytrips) to Brussels too. Even visited the "behatèd" European Parliament :P The inner city of Brussels isn't that large actually. One day really is enough :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:55, October 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, I may take my family too, we'll stuff ourselves probably, we enjoy the food services a place like brussels can provide :L Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 14:35, October 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * Then you could better drive another two hours and your in Limburg. The food's way better here :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:45, October 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * Really how is it better? because to be honest I'm not an expert on the food in Brussels nor Limburg :L Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 14:52, October 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's more and it's cheaper :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:10, October 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm in :D Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 15:11, October 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * Wait? £1. This sounds great, I will one day go to Brussels! Happy65 LogoCNP.png
 * Everything is close in Europe. In the US we had to drive several hours to get to DC or NYC, but here we went to Charlemagne's capital in almost no time. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:12, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

Bretherland
What happened to Bretherland. Btw, can you go to Bretherland Chat room (by turning back to wikia skin for a while) Happy65

Thanks. I kind of guessed as much. :3 ((ლ( (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ( 20:14, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

Quick
Quick! Go back to the chat. The wiki is getting slower and slower for me. Happy65

If you're here
If you're here, feel free to go on bretherland chat. I'm on. Happy65

Now you're back, can you? It's important. Happy65

Bus service Oceana
Hey, shall I also create a bus service from NC to the Oceana mines? A lot of Sylvanians work in the Oceana mines, esp. in TV and Clave Rock :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:01, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * I amsorry for stealing your answer Kunarian, but couldn't we make it a rush hour extension of the regular NC-Hurb line? Pierlot McCrooke 14:33, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I believe we could use the train for that, don't we? :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:56, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * I would think that it would be best to create such a bus service, after all workers can't work if they can't get to work! :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 17:05, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll add it to the list :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:24, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

chat
Bretherland Chat, sorry if i'm wasting your time and getting annoying Happy65

Bus service Sylvania.
Should we start a bus service for Sylvania? It would be realistic too have one. Marcus/Michael Villanova 00:49, October 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Already started: User:Kunarian/bus_service however I need to make minor settlements (which I am doing now) to be able to do the bus service correctly. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 01:10, October 27, 2012 (UTC)

Hello
Hi, go to the bretherland chat. I hadn't finished last time and you suddenly disappeared. :| Happy65

Bus Service
Would you live to use InterBus as the public transportation service to Sylvania? It would seem they already have a large schedule and if you would like them to add or delete something for Sylvania it can be done. Marcus/Michael Villanova 13:15, October 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * There are going to be a few different companies operating the lines (to avoid monopoly and encourage competition) and so I'll definitely use them as a company to operate some lines, which ones would you like to operate? Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 13:20, October 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * We have a list being complied on the InterBus page. Marcus/Michael Villanova 13:33, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

When I said that I loved you earlier, you know that I was just joking right? I'm heterosexual. This whole wiki just got so awkward for me. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello  (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 21:46, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

Man that was mental. I just need to sleep and wake up to a calm and peaceful wikia. :) Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 21:51, October 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * You got so pissed. lol — Beer.png <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 22:45, October 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I know, and I haven't been that angry in a long long time, and I know some annoying people. jesus, I just need some sort of relaxant when people like that come onto the wiki, or a lot of beer. :L Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 22:48, October 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * I can toast to that. — Beer.png <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 22:50, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

2013 Federal Elections
I know that this is early, but I am wondering wether you plan on running for Prime Minister in the 2013 elections, or wether your party just going for multiple seats in Congress. I'm asking, because I have ambitions for the upcoming elections as well. I am certain that I will be able to convince my friend Matt (Therider) to run for seats in congress, and personally, I was considering running for PM. Get back to me so that our coalition can collaborate, — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello  (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 01:34, October 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Just hopping that you see this even though its pretty far back. — Beer.png <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 20:02, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * No I'm looking for certain departments that's all, if you get enough seats and want to run for Prime Minister, I don't know, you'd probably have to compete with Krosby and Oos, and that's a hard match. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 20:06, October 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, I wasn't aware that Time was running. I suppose that if I did run that that would cause a schism in our coalition. — Beer.png <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 20:20, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know if he is, if you want go and check with him, I still don't know though, Oos is a good Prime Minister, he mediates and maintains stability however for now check with Time, at least you know I'm not running at the moment. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 20:22, October 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm happy to count the CNP as one of the PL's closest and strongest allies. I do think that we share the same political outlook, and if I was to run, having your support would definitely mean a lot to the effort and to me. — Beer.png <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 20:33, October 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll vote for you if you decide to go for it and Time doesn't. The coalition with SDP would probably collapse and they are a big party. I'll be focusing on the seats. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP LogoCNP.png 09:07, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

Speaker's Corner
I'm going to get started in the Speakers' Corner in a few weeks? Should I or should I wait until the end? <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   12:45, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Just wondering <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   17:59, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Feel free to start whenever you like but make sure you have the endurance to see a campaign through! :D Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 18:11, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

User:Crystalbeastdeck09/Hamlet Maps
Look at the page^ it's a hamlet I made on another wikia but the wikia failed. Would it be okay if it could be added to Sylvania? Any comments? Concerns? I think it would be somewhere in East Sylvania, just saying Marcus/Michael Villanova 16:30, October 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * The settlement in it's theme (apples and all) is good however it has a lot of problems. First of all, it's called thousand apples and has a large population however how could this be if it's founder is french-german (so considering the multi-lingual Sylvania he would probably name it something from those languages) and if it was founded in 1923 considering most large settlements have a base from the very start of Lovia. Also I don't like this political lean you've injected into it, a rebellious town that is progressive and disobeyed congress? I don't think so on that insertion of progressive and disobeying of congress. Also the town somehow unionised in Sylvania where most farmers are self employed? (in case you don't know this is due to a huge lack of corporate power over primary industry in Sylvania, this is not only historic but literal, there are barely any farming corporations that have fields outside of settlements). Honestly it seems like this town could be renamed the Labour Party Town. And by the way this specific politicising is not something I just oppose in this case (I mean I like the kind of classification that noble city gives it's citizens) I also don't like this Train Village leftist tag that's been given to it, I want to word it better so it's more along the lines of say socialist and liberal (like the way that Noble City is described to be split between liberals and conservatives) and not tying it to a party. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 17:27, October 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Most of it is adpated from "islands wikia" is i just changed the names and all, upon your point on cities being political. If you go to some cities and town most are politically different and driven. Liverpool and Manchester vote heavily Labour while London gives it's fare share of Conservatives and Labour Party members. I've deleted the stuff of unions and progressive leaning but kept the politcal history. I don't know about you but, If your a party you know your bases. Frankly, I'd say the CCPL goes well in Oceana along with the CNP. In Sylvania, Labour and CNP. In Kings LDP and PL. In Seven CCPL. And Clymene goes Labour. So yeah i don't know what your talking about because Oceana is a "rebellious state" and has always been, well here's a city that is. Marcus/Michael Villanova 19:12, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

PL has no significant presence in Kings. . . they don't run in state elections, and they seem pretty spread out nationwide to me. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:29, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Just on this quickly I think CCPL rules Oceana. End of. :L Sylvania is a liberal state, Kings is a liberal state, Seven is Conservative, Clymene is about as socialist as it gets. all in all CNP would do pretty well in Sylvania and Kings and maybe a teeny bit in Oceana but honestly I think we'd do better in Seven than Oceana. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 22:34, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Well, the only reason that Clymene is socialist is because only Horton and George run, and they are both leftist. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:45, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Concerns - Comments
Article 5 3.1.1 " to protect the state and its inhabitants from whimsical construction plans." the word whimsical reminds me something sheldon cooper would say, not 100% sure what it means.

From what i'm getting it's almost like the Congress answers to the states, which i'm not really for.

Article 8 3.1 I advise you for the sake of the law (which i'm for) don't add this. Each state should have the right to set the number of councilers. It was something I added in my law, but failed and was called out for. Just say each state council can set the number of councilers, but it can not exceed 50 and not have less than 15 members.

Personal want: I actually like that someone could run in two states. So that instead of me just caring of what goes on in Sylvania I can also care what goes on in Clymene. Otherwise. PRO :D Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:42, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

right: But I'm glad you support it, I have been considering the option to have variable seats but it seems less important than actually getting power to the states. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 22:53, October 29, 2012 (UTC) right 2: Once again glad for the advice. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 23:11, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) That's already in the Constitution I did not make that change.
 * 2) Not true. Re read, the states do not have power over congress.
 * 3) That would add too much bureaucracy in my opinion, I'll see what other users say though.
 * 4) I don't think that's a good idea in all honesty. It would only make sense if Lovia was confederate.
 * 1) Makes me question the original author
 * 2) just what i though
 * 3) Im sure states can handle the size, not a make or break but i'd like the states to control this. Like how seven can have 20 councilers meanwhile how does Sylvania much larger than Seven in population still gets 20.
 * 4) What do you mean by confederate O_o Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:02, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) I don't think he's here anymore
 * 2) don't worry I understand it's a bit too long winded to explain but Congress will not be answering to the states.
 * 3) It's more for equal representation within the states. However I'd be happy to change this if at least one other person raises that specific concern.
 * 4) Confederate would mean that States would have most powers, but still answer to Congress and Congress would be basically where they would agree on laws that needed to be applied to all the states.

3.Okay 4. I'm again for the two states per person for more build up in the states, but again. Not a make or break. Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:16, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

right 3: Just need to raise awareness and support now. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 23:21, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) So these two are dealt with?
 * 2) So these two are dealt with?
 * 3) Good
 * 4) Again going to say what I said for three if someone else raises it as a specific point they want then yes, but if I remember there was opposition to it in your bill and so if I meet the same opposition I'm afraid I'll stick with 1 state per person.

Get your side in a row and i'll try to get mine xD Leggo! Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:26, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

I would think the Coalition would support this fully. We just need to get the inactives to vote too. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 23:37, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Important Notice
Hello Kunarian. Please go to Bretherland chat by turning to wikia skin for an important politic notice. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  16:32, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

New York Flooded
I wonder if Costello has been affected by New York City's power loss. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   18:05, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

I also live in New York, and it's been stable so far, but depending on were he lives, like in downtown, then no. Marcus/Michael Villanova 18:15, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah. I heard all public transport has been cancelled <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  18:19, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

No give up!
Seems there have been alot of problems and issues and so far (mostly) they&apos;ve been resolved. This seems to be another one. On tax and spend, If the federal government isn&apos;t taxing (for all serious purposes) then who is? I have no problems with councils but would need to see how the powers are to be split before maing a decision. Also, taxation needs to be addressed. I will introduce a comprehensive public health bill, but I feel the state should raise some of the necessary money instead of putting all of the burdern on the feds. HORTON11 : •  18:59, October 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) I&apos;m sure you are working on the tax and spend bill in one of your side pages ( i see) and it&apos;s looking fine so i&apos;m guessing that will pass.
 * 2) I&apos;m sure you are aware of the Wales assmebly being someone from Britian. Like most devoluted assmeblies they recieve most of there money from the federal government and spend it. But unlike the scottish assmebly they can not tax. Many Welsh Lords and MPs have expressed concerns over this because simply it&apos;s the only assmebly in the world (it seems) that is can spend, but not tax or at least they don&apos;t have the obligation to. This is a make or break for me. It seems everyone agrees on the idea of a council but aren&apos;t on point with the powers. Marcus/Michael Villanova 18:53, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

I have not given up, and the only one causing problems at the moment is Horton. I have delayed it (at worst until next week) to let Hortons concerns be dealt with and so we can have some breathing space between his attacks (which were done without even having read the reform) and the putting forwards of the bill.

And on tax. I might add a state income tax to deal with the "no tax" but "yes spend" policy. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 19:03, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

My only issues are with division of powers and voting. If you can address these (or reach some compromise) you&apos;ll have my support. HORTON11 : •  19:07, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

An appointed governor normally has greater overall support than a governor which wins through first past the post. And being from Britain I can tell you how much support some of our politicians have, and it rhymes with cluck fall. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 19:18, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Then don&apos;t uses fptp, it often isolates a good minority from their leader. There are many viable alternatives to electing the governor, such as a 2-round system or Contingent vote, for example. HORTON11 : •  19:28, October 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * With two candidates in most states, I don&apos;t think that&apos;ll be practical. Personally I think it would be easier if you agreed, we are maintaining Governor powers and considering your points if someone else supports them then I&apos;ll add in the direct election of the governor and the proportional election of the Council, okay? Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 19:36, October 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * It makes no sense though, to have two seperate elections. Because the same two people would be runing. The majority still agrees for the original Marcus/Michael Villanova 19:44, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

Federal Elections
How many seats are the CNP aiming for in the federal elections. It'd be good to know so I can work on getting some. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   19:33, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

We aim to break 10 seats :) Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 19:40, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Okay. I'll try and get at least 3 :) <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  19:41, November 4, 2012 (UTC)