User talk:Kunarian

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Regional?
Quote: "We want to introduce a welfare voucher system that will make life better for the poorest and least well off in our society. We also want to protect the poor from living costs and as such we shall not be implementing VAT."

Isn't that more something to discuss on a national level? :) --O u WTB 17:35, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Indeed, I fear that the CNP plans for devolution go too far. --Semyon 17:56, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hardly. Both points are perfectly valid for a regional discussion. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 18:34, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * We might disagree here, for now :P --O u WTB 18:42, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * What do you disagree about specifically? Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 20:59, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * If we want to keep Congress as it currently is, it should have a function. If we devolve things like social security on such a large scale, Congress effectively loses its current function. --O u WTB 06:09, October 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree, Congress needs to have a proper overarching function. But I believe that function to be setting out framework laws, like the educational reform, that give the states flexibility. The welfare vouchers are just like this, what we want to do is set up a comprehensive welfare system, because the current hand outs as described in law have not been implemented (thank god, I've estimated they'd cost us 3 billion or more) and because the current hand outs are not a good system. The welfare vouchers are part of a policy the CNP is pushing at all levels of government. It's not something we want fully devolved. Does that answer your concerns? :) Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 06:31, October 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * It does make me feel more "safe" :P I'm looking forward to proposals already :P --O u WTB 06:37, October 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm glad, trust me, plans for devolution are to give more freedom to the states to handle their own issues, but things that are national issues like immigration, tax and welfare need to have a strong legislative framework provided by Congress. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 06:41, October 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * We'll see :P --O u WTB 06:53, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

@Resident: You áre a resident: Newport (1 Newport Street; ) since January 22, 2012. --O u WTB 18:42, September 30, 2013 (UTC)

Busy?
If not, let me say my famous words. "Please go on chat". Thanks mate.  Happy65   Talk CNP  14:41, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

Clymene
Don't forget that you've got a house there too! :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 16:53, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

What do you estimate would be the founding dates for Kustwijk, Hierland and Steenveld? 77topaz (talk) 05:19, October 16, 2013 (UTC)

^Hey, Kunarian, did you see this? 77topaz (talk) 19:30, October 23, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Kunarian, you might wanna think about checking out this wiki. It's a British one, might interest you actually. HORTON11 : •  21:12, October 30, 2013 (UTC)

We've been working on it for almost a week now, and we've got the places and the sport set up. We're currently working on the boroughs of the capital, Kemburg City, and I think your knowledge of Southern Britain (London) could really help us out. I've only been to london three times, therefore I don't know too much about it.  Happy65   Talk CNP  21:16, October 30, 2013 (UTC)

I live in west London so I could help if needed :) Frijoles333 Marcel Cebara TALK 22:55, October 30, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for being away so much, I started my first full time job on the 7th October and so I've been getting used to it. Getting up at five thirty to get ready and go to work is tiring not to mention only getting home at 6:30, leaving me with little time to do hobbies like wikination, recently though I've been getting better so you might see me around. Tomorrow I'll try and deal with everything from Topaz and his question to this interesting British wiki. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 23:12, October 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * :o I need to get up at 4:45 on Monday, so I've got 15 minutes left to Wikination. It's all in the planning è :P --O u WTB 09:53, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * I get up at 7:15 and am practically still asleep when eating breakfast :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 15:19, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Try cocaine :P --O u WTB 15:20, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * :o 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 15:21, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * You need a number? :o --O u WTB 15:23, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Maÿhaps :o 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 15:29, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Is it okay if the dealer is not active in Gèssel? :o --O u WTB 15:31, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * What the closest place where the dealer is active? :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 15:35, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Limburg :o Or a dealer in Lovia mayhaps? :P --O u WTB 15:39, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Not Limnurg :( Lovia is fine though :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 15:42, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay :P You should go to the Gessle House in Sternaw :o --O u WTB 15:47, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * My recommendation: don't try cocaine. :'( --Semyon 15:51, October 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Bad experiences? :o --`O u WTB 15:53, October 31, 2013 (UTC)

Oceana
Kunar, could you fill in some names for me here? So we can finally get the State Council up and running again :P --O u WTB 15:15, October 31, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, Kunarian, welcome back! Now that you've returned, do you think you could answer my question about when Kustwijk, Steenveld and Hierland were founded? 77topaz (talk) 06:33, November 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, however first out of interest, why do you want to know? < NOTE: this may affect the accuracy of my answer, because if you're just generally interested then I'll give you the general one I have in my head, if you need it for serious business then I'll actually mull it over and come up with something more accurate. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 09:27, November 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * I was thinking of writing for their articles, since a lot of Sylvania's hamlets are still red links with the only information about coming from your "settlements list" page, and I am the Deputy Governor, after all. 77topaz (talk) 19:09, November 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well then, I'll need to have a few days, I'll try and work out the settling dates for all the places just in case. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 19:19, November 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks! That would definitely be useful. :) 77topaz (talk) 19:29, November 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * When do you think you'll have the dates ready? 77topaz (talk) 09:11, November 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * This weekend at the latest, I don't have much time to work on it in the week, work and all. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 18:20, November 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Do you have them ready yet? 77topaz (talk) 22:22, November 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Not technically however I'm putting it to the pub, we need to discuss the settling of Lovia as a whole and what kind of times things were settled, as they are such interconnected things. Especially as I'm writing a book on this stuff. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 02:43, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Topaz, would you mind going to Forum:Kings State Council and checking out my proposal for a State Government Frijoles333 Marcel Cebara TALK 10:13, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Heh, Frijoles, you messaged me on Kunarian ' s talk page. :P 77topaz (talk) 19:29, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Haha yeah it's because you and him were having a discussion here, and I knew you would see it :) Frijoles333 Marcel Cebara TALK 19:31, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

CTA
There is a vote open in the Clymene Transportation Authority. Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:16, November 30, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, did you see my last post here? 77topaz (talk) 00:51, December 9, 2013 (UTC)

^Kunarian, did you see this? 77topaz (talk) 23:21, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

Clymene vote
A vote is open on extending the franchise, your votes are needed. Marcus/Michael Villanova 11:50, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, Kunarian, did you see the dates/years I proposed here? 77topaz (talk) 05:00, January 6, 2014 (UTC)

Hey
Ministry of Tourism and Sport is the ministry I'm running for this year. Okay with you?  Happy65   Talk CNP  09:20, January 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yup! Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 20:01, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Hey new Clymene Transportation Authority debate in Forum:Clymene State Council. Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:00, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Prime Minister
To be honest, I doubt I'm going to win the race for PM, and Horton's most likely. My candidacy was just competition. (If we don't vote for Justin however, he's likely to give us second-choice ministries, therefore I'm seriously considering switching votes). (If you're online now, please come on chat).  Happy65   Talk CNP  13:41, February 1, 2014 (UTC)

Clymene Healthcare and Referendum
Some votes in the Clymene Council. Marcus/Michael Villanova 13:45, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

Truth Island
Thank you for being a strong man in a nation of cowards. We have two rebellions on our hands, one in Clymene and one on Truth Islands. They need to be dealt with swiftly and in the strongest possible way. You are the right man for the job. I do not care what the government says. To me they are no longer the legimate and legal leaders of this poor state. The people of Lovia deserve better then these cowardly dogs and sheep. King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 22:50, April 24, 2014 (UTC)

Clymene
Marcus has said he will add more developments to the crisis there within the next few days, but I would like to prepare a Lovian force to restore order asap. As Police Commissioner Kalinnikov I would like to see you organize a force of around 250 police officers to be deployed to Clymene and some 25-40 sent to Truth Island to restore order, keep the law and preempt any Marxist action on the Island. HORTON11 : •  16:32, April 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Furthermore it is of the utmost importance that all those responsible for the illegal secession of Truth Island are taken into custody as soon as the Federal Police officers arrive on the island, and that all rebel and Brunanter flags are replaced with the flag of Lovia. This great task we put in your hands, Mr. Kalinnikov. Good luck! King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 16:35, April 25, 2014 (UTC)

Chat
Hey, you haven't been around in a while, please come to chat :)  Happy65   Talk CNP  17:54, April 25, 2014 (UTC)

Coup
Kunarian, do not forget that apart from Sylvanian governor, you also have a duty to the people of Lovia as Member of the Congress and Minister of defense. If you continue with this coup I shall just have to reshuffle my cabinet in order to appoint someone to better manage the police and national security. If you are unwilling to follow the rule of law and upkeep your role as a congressperson we may have to bar you from entering congress. HORTON11 : •  18:06, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

Who will you use to bar him? All of this men are loyal to him, we all know that the PM is corrupt and his men know that the most. You work for another nation! The King should step up and grow a pair and remove you from office! -Sunkist- (talk) 18:15, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

Please come to chat Kunarian. -Sunkist- (talk) 18:19, May 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * You fail to make the distinction between The user horton11 and the character PM Justin Abrahams. The PM never sold Truth Island to Brunant or supported that. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 18:22, May 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * Or should you also be branded a traitor since you were PM of Brunant? I see no sense in that. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 19:16, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

Now, I do not want to see further unfounded escalation, bloodshed and division among the Lovian people. I, Justin Abrahams, would be willing to step down from and sacrifice myself so that Lovia's congresspersons are freed, you refrain from continuing with your coup and return to obeying and working with congress, the constitution and the rule of law. HORTON11 : •  19:16, May 4, 2014 (UTC)



Chat again
Come when you can, you might like to hear this. HORTON11 : •  13:21, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

I'm on now. HORTON11 : •  19:18, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

When you can. HORTON11 : •  15:22, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Come to chat if you can. Some key things to discuss. HORTON11 : •  15:13, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

A few juicy items but come asap. HORTON11 : •  16:12, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Ok, yhe Brunanter ship is sailing over and so is the jet. HORTON11 : •  18:35, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Hey
UKIP WON!!!!!! :) I forgot you support UKIP so the message is slightly late.  Happy65   Talk CNP   06:26, June 11, 2014 (UTC)

You are on here? Neat! I am just getting started. 09:33, June 16, 2014 (UTC)

Sir
Heyyyyy, come to chat!

Now that I may become the MoFinance, I would like it if you could create a seal for the Ministry. I see you have done the seals of the other Ministries, and I would love if you could do one for Finance. Thanks, 15:36, July 31, 2014 (UTC)

RE:
If I reply here, hopefully you'll see it quicker. Hey, I need to talk on chat.  Happy65   Talk CNP  20:30, August 11, 2014 (UTC)

chat
Please come to wikination chat

Edit wars
Please see:. --O u WTB 17:46, August 15, 2014 (UTC)

please
please come on chat.  Happy65   Talk CNP  09:28, August 16, 2014 (UTC)

chat
Please come on chat, me and Rex are on. :) Thanks <font color="Blue"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  19:13, August 16, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Support
Voted. And no problem. 19:26, August 29, 2014 (UTC)

Potential project
You're the head of the Dept. of Defense, so you might wanna check this out. HORTON11 : •  16:23, November 4, 2014 (UTC)

Governor
First, congratulations! :) Second, please make sure to update List of Governors of Sylvania and Sylvania and any other pages. --O u WTB 08:38, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

PM
I'm going to run for Prime Minister in the upcoming Federal Elections. I just thought I'd notify you! <font color="Blue"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  10:38, January 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * Which Federal Elections are these and who will be supporting you? Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 21:04, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
Come to chat please. <font color="Blue"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  10:25, February 1, 2015 (UTC)

You still alive? :o --O u WTB 14:04, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Your transition to tomorrow seems to take more time than average though :o --O u WTB 10:47, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

Hello
Finally you're back. Thought you'd be gone forever. Can you please work on the convention now, please.... Happy65 17:12, March 20, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
It seems chat isn't working too well for me right now, so maybe we could chat later today instead? --QytokantFRÅGOR??? 09:54, March 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure, send me a message and I should be able to get online. I'm doing something at 6:30 but before that should be fine Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 09:58, March 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * Could you come on chat when you're online? --QytokantFRÅGOR??? 13:15, March 22, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
Come to chat - there's already four of us here. Happy65 17:15, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

Ministry Seals
Could you make the rest of the ministry seals (plus a new one for the ministry of finance) like you did for the others at some point in the next few weeks? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:20, March 25, 2015 (UTC)

Reminder
The debate will start shortly. --Semyon 18:57, March 27, 2015 (UTC)

Train Village West
Can I readd Train Village West as a former halt Pierlot McCrooke 13:43, April 4, 2015 (UTC)

Hello
Good to see you back. :) You should probably archive your talk page, btw. (I strongly recommend you don't resist. :P) --Semyon 17:26, April 8, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the votes. ;) —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:51, April 14, 2015 (UTC)

I'll take a while
So... :P --O u WTB 12:48, April 15, 2015 (UTC)

Working on those ministry seals? :o —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 13:45, April 22, 2015 (UTC)

CCPL
Why don't you support us anymore? :'( --O u WTB 08:42, May 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure it's because of Happy. :P 77topaz (talk) 10:24, May 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * I think we need to discuss how we gon' fix this, so we are one rightist front. We need to stop AMWM and SLP :P --O u WTB 10:59, May 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * I thought CCPL was conservative, but leftist. :P 77topaz (talk) 11:17, May 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * You patronizing me? :'( --O u WTB 11:21, May 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * No, I'm just surprised at your sudden change in policy. :P 77topaz (talk) 11:24, May 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * I think we need to discuss how we gon' fix this, so we are one conservative front. That better? :P --O u WTB 11:26, May 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * I suppose, but I still don't think Kun would support Happy. :P He might support you if you were standing, but I talked to him earlier today and he did not seem inclined to support Happy. :P 77topaz (talk) 11:29, May 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm pretty sure he would prefer a nice old friend over a communist, so he gotta talk to CCPL about this :P --O u WTB 11:31, May 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * You might be his nice old friend, but Happy sure ain't. :P 77topaz (talk) 11:32, May 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * Then why doesn't he talk to us? :( --O u WTB 11:34, May 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't know, I guess he isn't online right now. :P 77topaz (talk) 11:35, May 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * He could've said it earlier to me though :o --O u WTB 11:39, May 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * That's true. I did see him in the chat earlier; I suppose only Kunarian himself can explain that. :P 77topaz (talk) 11:40, May 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * Then this is a request for explanation, as well as discussion to solve this issue :P --O u WTB 11:41, May 1, 2015 (UTC)

Vote split
The CCPL vote is split, and if we don't do something about it, then Katie Conroy and the LF will get the PM office, since she leads with 42 votes. Right now, Neil Hardy is in the lead within the CCPL with 32 votes, and you behind with just 19 votes. If you sacrifice the office of PM and merge your votes with Happy's, then we can get a 53 vote total, and beat Conroy and the LF while keeping the CCPL in power. The others who voted for you will fall in line if you decide keep the CCPL vote unified. So what do you say? Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 16:03, May 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * Indeed, I'm sure this is a plan that Kun can get enthusiastically behind. :P --Semyon 16:18, May 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * I won't fall in line. Kun must be PM! :o —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:41, May 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well we can either will the vote or lose to Conroy. I'd like to see this plan work. Flag of the Xanian Empire.svg Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 02:41, May 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * She doesn't have nearly enough votes to win, though. You need 51, no less. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 13:27, May 6, 2015 (UTC)

Our discussion in chat
Sorry if TM and I annoyed you earlier. In case you suspected otherwise, we weren't trying to do that; we just got caught up in the debate. Personally, I found the discussion both interesting and enjoyable, so thank you for having it. :) --Semyon 23:54, May 6, 2015 (UTC)

Leaving
I don't fully understand your rationale for leaving the wiki. I'd like to discuss it further with you in chat, or on the wiki, preferably when Oos can be there. --Semyon 20:58, May 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey Kun, I got an email from Oos. He's in Copenhagen at the moment and can't edit. He very strongly wants you to stay at least till he gets back. I hope too you can stick around and talk through any issues rather than disappearing. No-one on the wiki wants you to do that, I hope that's clear. :'( --Semyon 23:16, May 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * I have to say I'm quite fed up with it too. You been practically only excluding me, which also leaves me with a decision to make. You effectively make the Government even more useless than it was before by doing so, and I think my term in Congress will not be a constructive one due to this. --O u WTB 09:22, May 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree with the above. At least we don't have to wait a full year - it's May already :). Happy65 09:24, May 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * It's roleplay. I want to be clear that *I* don't want to exclude *you* or anyone else, but that the character AMWM wants to exclude CCPL. Although it's irrelevant now, I would have been absolutely ok if the opposite had occurred. I thought that it would enliven our rather dull politics and that you, Kun and others would accept the separation between user and character, but that's clearly not the case - and it's entirely my fault for misjudging the situation. As I don't want this to inflame any personal tensions between users or prevent people contributing to the wiki, I'll resign as prime minister within the next month and a more satisfactory government can be elected. --Semyon 18:39, May 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * You're going to resign as PM? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 18:42, May 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Effectively, you could've enlivened our politics using AMWM, but not on this way. --O u WTB 11:42, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * @TM: don't be a sis :o --O u WTB 11:43, May 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * @Oos: clearly. --Semyon 16:07, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

Font
What font is used on the Party for the Northern Territory logo? Happy65 15:12, May 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Tahoma. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 15:20, May 9, 2015 (UTC)

Acts
Hi Kun, please keep in mind that I mean no ill will towards you (at least OOC ). Would you consider writing some acts that you wanted to pass (they were written below your government proposal), please? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:20, May 20, 2015 (UTC)

You gonna make the new regionalist CNP for Kings and the noni-regionalist CNP soon? The non-regionalist could be User:TimeMaster/Lovian Democratic Alliance (which I created because I think we have a void in our political views there), if you have any interest. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:38, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

Can a party post more than one list per region the local elections? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 11:09, June 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes. Kunarian TALK 12:53, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
Please come to chat. <font color=#101590>Neil Hardy 07:24, June 6, 2015 (UTC)

Shouldn't CNP get a new leader? I propose Christopher Ried. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:34, June 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Shh.... Leadership elections upcoming... Kunarian TALK 21:35, June 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * :o —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:41, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
Please come. <font color=#101590>Neil Hardy 19:17, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
Please come to chat. <font color=#101590>Neil Hardy 18:03, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

Hey?
Could you please come to chat? <font color=#101590>Neil Hardy 17:14, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
Please come to chat. :) <font color=#101590>Neil Hardy  10:04, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

Kun.
Whenever you're online, please could you come to chat? <font color=#101590>Neil Hardy 18:18, June 21, 2015 (UTC)

I need help
Because I am making the Noble City Bus Transport Company for public transport, so will need your help. Thanks,  UnfazedEveryman  [-] Annoy Me 11:11, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

Lovian Culture Test
Because the other guy said no, then what should be in the test?  UnfazedEveryman  Annoy Me 10:10, July 14, 2015 (UTC)

CNP

 * 1) I'm being partisan so I can get the Governor position in the upcoming elections.
 * 2) I'm not much of a conservatism/nationalism fan.

Don't let that stop you, FictiveJ (discuss) 08:38, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

State elections
Is there any change in the state election plans. Do you still plan to run where you mentioned earlier in the year? <font color=#101590>Neil Hardy 15:05, October 19, 2015 (UTC)

Can you come to the chat perhaps? <font color=#2980B9><font face="century gothic">HORTON11  20:31, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

CNP
What are your policies about the separation of church and state? What about drug use and gender rights? MyOwnBadSelf (talk) 06:45, February 10, 2017 (UTC)

Long time, no see
It'd be great if you could come to chat and discuss these new proposals. Thanks. Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 20:57, February 11, 2017 (UTC)

I asked about the Maps feature but it seems unlikely it'll be possible to enable it. Probably for the better though; we shouldn't be reliant on WikiFeatures as Wikia Fandom powered by Wikia seems to remove them regularly. Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 19:11, February 12, 2017 (UTC)

Please come to chat when you can do so. Thanks. Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 12:25, February 13, 2017 (UTC)

Ok, where do you think these policies should lie in the political spectrum? I'm thinking about centre but it varies. A few ideas but needs expanding of course, where do you think these policies should be placed? Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 12:55, February 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * A slightly progressive tax rate balancing rewarding hard-work and redistribution of wealth
 * Greater allocation of funds to pensions and social care for the elderly rewarding hard working individuals.
 * A small contribution to benefits to balance social security and encouraging people to work.
 * Support for skilled immigration to help industrialise the Northern States (particularly places like Sofasi, Novosevensk)
 * A national healthcare system to fix the mess at state level.
 * Equality and no discrimination
 * Further devolution and redistribution of powers to states, particularly Oceana.
 * The creation of an animal protection law with strict jail times
 * More funding to education benefiting both individuals and businesses.
 * Working with small businesses to find unemployment and skilled immigrants.
 * Potentially a referendum on republicanism but a neutral stance towards the issue.(?)
 * Scrap the Mobility 2020 vanity project at state level, particularly the plan to connect the rural Adlibitan Island with Clymene.
 * Pro-abortion but only under 12 weeks unless special circumstances, anti-legalization of marijuana.
 * Establish bicycle sharing systems in Noble City and Newhaven
 * Protection of Lovia's national parks.
 * Ensure there is investment to replacing outdated infrastructure before investment in megaprojects.
 * (And reduce tuition fees)

Okay. Give me some time to respond. Kunarian TALK 12:56, February 13, 2017 (UTC)

I also left out limited free market/mixed economy leaning towards free market with control in some key industries. I am yet to make a definitive judgement, but this might help you form an opinion about the position on the political spectrum. Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 14:06, February 13, 2017 (UTC)

Replies:

Tbh lots of this depends on how you go about it. I'd say that there's conflicting stuff in terms of right and left wing support but it's not that bad in terms of ideological consistency. If this is party position ideas then you may want to compromise to come down more on the left or right, however that may cause other issues. Currently I'd say this program straddles a lot of gaps. Kunarian TALK 14:22, February 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * Progressive tax - centre-left in the way you described it. I think the centre is too vague because a tax system that's somewhat flat would be considered centre-right. Centre is too undefined for me in politics, so for this and all the others I'll be clear about which side of the isle I feel it leans.
 * Rewarding Pensions and Social Care - centre-left still. Due to the reliance on government to do a lot of provision and make decisions on how people's work should be rewarded.
 * Small contribution to benefits - Not sure, you'd have to describe this more.
 * Planned immigration to the northern states - Quite hard left tbh. I'd be incredibly opposed as it's literally obliterating their communities and cultures for economic reasons.
 * National Healthcare, Repeal of State Care - centre-left. However the CNP of tomorrow will not be for centralization in an actual national health service unless it's simply a national insurance system.
 * Equality and no discrimination - centre-left according to the way I'm reading that. The right tends to support equality without changes to the law.
 * Further dev and Oceana - right on dev, left on oceana. Special status is more left wing, right tend to favour one system for all.
 * Animal protection - technically left but would have wide support depending on sentencing.
 * More education funding - left wing. Right favours private payment for education.
 * Small business unemployed and immigrants - left wing. Right favours leaving it to the market.
 * Republican ref - it's been done recently and was left wing in origin. Right wing parties tended to favour retaining the monarchy full stop.
 * Scrap Mobility 2020 - State issue but it would be right wing to scrap it. It would be left wing to scrap it at a national level because it would be intervening in state politics.
 * Abortion - very right wing stance there.
 * Anti-marijuana - right wing.
 * Establishing by-cycle sharing systems. More of a state issue and centre-left.
 * Protection of national parks. Centre-left if you plan on expanding them slightly, centre-right if you plan to keep them the same size.
 * Replacement investment. Centre-left but can gain widespread support based on the cost.
 * Reduce tuition fees - Left wing. Right tend to accept their existence.

I assume you're using the American model? How would the below change the position?
 * 1. The progressive tax rate is slight and wouldn't be too different from a flat rate.
 * 2. Ok
 * 3. A benefits system that people can't abuse, provides some social security and encourages work.
 * 4. I didn't mean planned immigration (i.e. to certain areas). I intended controlled/somewhat restricted immigration for skilled workers, highlighting places like Sofasi and Novosevensk. Novosevensk was founded by Russians and benefits from the influx of Russian workers who are well integrated into the culture in that area? Perhaps should drop the last remark to avoid confusion.
 * 5. Ok.
 * 6. Ok.
 * 7 Intention was devolution throughout the country, though perhaps extra powers for the Oceana government to control things like preservation of the language/culture?
 * 8. I indeed voted pro monarchy in the referendum, hence the (?) and another referendum is a consideration due to the inactivity of our monarch. I'll mull that one over.
 * 9. Ok
 * 10. Ok
 * 11. This restriction is the norm throughout Europe. Is it really very right wing?
 * 12. Ok.
 * 13. Ok
 * 14. Ok.
 * 15. Ok.
 * 16. Ok.
 * 17. Ok.

Right:


 * 1. Then it's much more centre-right.
 * 3. Based on that explanation right wing but tbh it all depends on implementation whether it's right or hard-right.
 * 4. Still a very controversial topic. It would face strong opposition from anti-immigration and cultural absolutist people. Even minor targeted immigration is left wing and tends to raise eyebrows from right wingers.
 * 7. Tbh Oceana already has support for that (I think in the law) and can do things on a state level to support it. At best it would be a welcome bit of help, at worst it would be viewed as intervening in the state or favouring their culture over other states.
 * 8. The monarch might become an admin controlled neutral I think. Best way forwards I see.
 * 11. It's only right wing because in general right wing parties tend to have the most consistent opposition to its legalization whereas left wing parties tend to be in favour or indifferent. In Lovia it's practically already legal.

Kunarian TALK 14:52, February 13, 2017 (UTC)

Ok for all except I did not intend targeted immigration so will retract the statement about Novosevensk and Sofasi, instead a single Lovian controlled skilled worker immigration system. Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 14:56, February 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * Don't take it that way. It would just be something that would be very wrong for the federal government to do to one or two states. If the Governor of Seven or Clymene began a system to encourage skilled immigration to their states that would be different. Kunarian TALK 15:22, February 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * No, I genuinely didn't intend for targeted immigration. It was intended to be more of a 'Look how skilled, controlled immigration has benefited these places. We should opt for a nation-wide controlled, skilled immigration program'. I am against targeted immigration; it bears a striking resemblance to the proposal by Sadiq Khan for London-specific visas, and would cause chaos. Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 15:26, February 13, 2017 (UTC)


 * Do bear in mind I wrote this up quickly when I saw you come online, and that is why what I wrote was largely confusing and unclear. Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 15:28, February 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * Course. Tbh I'm interested to see what the final product is! Kunarian TALK 15:29, February 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * Edit conflict but I was about to expand. Further context was that I plan to run in either of the Northern States, and wanted to get across how skilled immigration (but of course it would be through federal, nationwide level) would benefit them. Anyway, I should start on a platform (centre?) Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 15:34, February 13, 2017 (UTC)

How is supporting special treatment for Oceana left wing? Several of the right/left issues you noted are not really a right/left thing. Politics is on at least 3 dimensions, not just 1. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 18:55, February 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, I'm more left-wing than I expected. I understand what you're saying; supporting treatment for Oceana is not inherently left wing, though Kun seems to be using the tendencies of Lovian parties to determine whether something is left or right wing. Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 19:00, February 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * And it was just a basic idea going off limited information and a very quickly drawn-up plan. If I'd have said I supported a ban on marijuana unless used for medicinal purposes, he'd have probably positioned me more left wing, for example. Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 19:06, February 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * He asked for left or right and I did the best I could. Kunarian TALK 20:46, February 13, 2017 (UTC)

I guess it depends on if you think CCPL and its satellites (most Oceana based parties and minority parties) are left wing or not. Left/right is too simplistic, a 3D model with economic views (the traditional left/right), "traditional" social views (abortion, marijuana), and cultural views (immigration, state autonomy, for example) is better but even that can be too simplistic because you can mix and match within though and it can exclude stuff like green politics and others. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 19:10, February 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * For Lovia I find the Confederate-Unionist, Traditionalist-Progressive, Free-Regulated Market triple axis the most accurate. For example CCPL is a Confederate Traditionalist Regulated Market Party while the CPL at the last election was a Unionist Progressive Regulated Market Party. It shows you why despite CCPL being economically centrist and sometimes left wing, they are not the best bed fellows with some of what would be considered Lovia's left wing parties. Kunarian TALK 20:46, February 13, 2017 (UTC)

Like this: ? Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 19:13, February 13, 2017 (UTC)

Note the above is not my views but those of the former RWCP. Happy65 (Talk) (Contribs) 19:15, February 13, 2017 (UTC)

FWIW, I thought your list of views was very centrist (even your abortion and immigration views weren't far from the centre; I have to disagree with Kun there). Though I agree with TM that many of the issues can't be straightforwardly classified as left or right. --Semyon 19:29, February 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * Disagree? ... I thought we were friends :  ( Kunarian TALK''' 20:46, February 13, 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, sorry, sorry. :'( I was misinterpreted. I agree with everything. Of course. --Semyon 21:00, February 13, 2017 (UTC)

RWCP was takaviki and in particular "government size policies" is not something to have but yes, similar to that. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 19:31, February 13, 2017 (UTC)

Just to make sure, you have the text of the interview with Chand saved on your computer? 77topaz (talk) 10:04, February 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * I do however I'm at work so don't expect the interview to be up until later today. Kunarian TALK 10:12, February 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay. I was just checking whether I needed to save it separately just in case you weren't able to, but if you've got it than that's good. 77topaz (talk) 10:16, February 14, 2017 (UTC)