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Vote for Ygo August Donia!
Vote for me. These are my political viewpoints:
 * Political stance

Ygo A. Donia is a conservative politician for the CCPL. He is against: Along with everything he considers to be weak. He loves:
 * Abortion
 * Atheïsm
 * Democracy
 * (too much) freedom of speech
 * Girly men
 * Hippies
 * Judges


 * The army
 * Sports
 * Beer
 * Hot women
 * Jesus
 * The Lord
 * Oceana
 * Guns

If you want a total badass in congress, vote Ygo and you'll get the pirate eyepatch in all it's amazing awesomeness for free!
 * The glorious First Consul of Rome 22:58, December 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * PS: If you do NOT vote for me, you are gay. The glorious First Consul of Rome 22:59, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

I like democracy, abortion, atheïsm, girly men, judges, and freedom of speech, so I will not be voting for you. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 01:21, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

I like hot women too. It's a shame you'd have to be against having pre-marital sex with any of those hot women... That was a really immature response, but I just thought I'd throw that one out there. Cheers, --LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss) 02:21, December 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * I do not mind pre-marital sex one bit. People have to live a little first before they settle down in a marriage. The glorious First Consul of Rome 09:44, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Vote for Christopher Costello
When he's not hanging out with the J-Man at Church, doing community service, or giving out free money... he's probably hanging out at your local bar! So suit up, hurry on down and meet the millionaire himself! Take pictures, get free autographs, or come to him seeking advice with the ladies. Maybe there'll even be free cash in it for you! Log-in to Communipedia for a complete list of the bars he'll stop by and the times when you can find him. Ladies drink free. Just remember to vote Christopher Costello for congress in January. Cheers, --LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss) 02:55, December 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Mr. Costello shares my respect for the J-Man and I'm pretty sure he knows how to party. Throw in the ladies-drink-free and the free money and it's pretty much a win-win situation. Can we still vote for three guys? Then you'll get one my votes. The glorious First Consul of Rome 09:46, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the support! :)

Also, I think that I should through it out there that I will be having a personal interviewed conducted in the near future so that you all can know what to expect from me, and how I feel about the "Goyou monopoly scandal", which was only recently brought to light. Expect more from me in the near future, everyone. --LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss) 23:15, December 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * I except the world from you, Mr. Costello. You are well on your way of becoming a living legend, much like I did after the Brigade-controversy and the Galahad v. The Brigade Trial. Scandals are the best way of getting yourself noticed, and expanding your reputation. Bad publicity is good publicity! The glorious First Consul of Rome 23:20, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I've been taking your advice a lot in the past few days. -- LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss - What's up) 02:59, December 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * I noticed. And so did the rest of the nation, which is always a good thing. Mr. Costello will soon dominate all the major newspapers the way the likes of me, Alexandru Latin and Pierlot McCrooke did in our days. Despite all the controversy, I even made it to PM once (untill Arthur Jefferson banned me). Mr. Villanova will have a tough opponent in you. The glorious First Consul of Rome 13:30, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

I think that Mr. Villanova's time as PM is coming to a close. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:44, December 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Probably yes. He basically left the wiki months ago and never really returned the same as he left us. The game hasn't changed but the players have. The glorious First Consul of Rome 14:55, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

No need to say it like your day under the spotlight has come to an end. We're both still here. As for Villanova, I agree. It's a shame how so many great people are intent on leaving and have already given up on Lovia. I'll certainly be here when the PM elections come though. -- LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss - What's up) 15:34, December 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I am still here. But that's about it. I no longer have the dedication and the commitment. I used to have at least a little bit of dedication, but now... not so much. I am not longer powerful or influential and the right is fading away. You should look forward to the 6th of January, Mr. Costello. Then someone much more interesting will return to us. Worse then I ever was. The glorious First Consul of Rome 15:45, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

I say you should be more optimistic. Everyone saying that they're losing their enthusiasm sets a melancholy mood for the project. Thin of it like this, whenever you have the time to put in a little bit of political effort, you'll probably be right back in all of the action. We've all heard that you were making a comeback. I'll definitely support you if the coalition I'm in doesn't take all of my votes away. And who are you referring to, who will return in January? -- LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss - What's up) 16:02, December 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * There is nothing wrong with a bit of melancholy every once in a while. Longing for the past, thinking of the good ol' days. I am still optimistic about the future and that is for a large part do to people like you and TimeMaster and Jeff and Kunarian joining in. Flesh blood. That's what the wiki needs to stay alive, and so far, it has kept Lovia alive for almost 5 years now! The guy who will return in early January is McCrooke. The one and only. Read some old articles from La Quotidienne and his character's article and you'll see he's an interesting fellow. One of the baddest dudes around, but very experienced. The glorious First Consul of Rome 16:10, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Everything will be A-OK!
Good day,
 * I am Bill An, the CEO and the Chair of Goyou. Even if we have made a monopoly, we fully support well-defined anti-monopolization efforts. I myself would request a vote of any kind to Bill An. Why? Even though we at Goyou have been claimed to be a monopoly, we have attempted to satisfy everyone. Please, vote for Bill An of Positive Lovia.

--J&bull;t 03:34, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

You've got my support, bro. -- LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss - What's up) 22:12, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Why not Juche?
Hi I'm Lee Feng a Juche believer. I Like Kim Il Sung and he is the Great Leader! Pleas for me give a vote. I give you peace on Lovia. I am the Lovian Peace Party candidate. --J&bull;t 03:34, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Because in your political party's article, you gave us plenty of reasons why the Final Peace Party has bad intentions. :I -- LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss - What's up) 22:10, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

I Warn All Citizens Of Lovia To Not Vote For Lee Feng He Is The Great Evil In This World He Will Destroy Lovia. --Concerned Citizen 21:32, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Vote for me!
My viewpoints:
 * Decrease polarisation in Congress - the left and right must work together. Party politics must not allowed to reach as great an extent as in the first 2011 election.
 * Impose social democratic policies which however must allow economic growth to continue.
 * Increase power of states slightly, so as to make them worth having, and possible creation of state councils.
 * Conservative attitudes to gay marriage, abortion and euthanasia, while retaining a willingness to compromise with others who don't hold these views.
 * Join international organisations such as OAS, UWN, UN. Enter NAFTA customs union. In particular, foster closer relations in the USA, while retaining independence.
 * Create and improve articles related to Lovian culture and history, which are sadly lacking
 * Abolish or reform the abstain option in Congress. In essence, it's just a nicer form of contra.

If you have any questions, please ask! :) --Semyon 20:17, January 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah, whoops - the poster says May. Just read it as January. --Semyon 20:19, January 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * May I ask, mr Breyev, three questions. what is your opinion on the establishment of a paramilitary force within Lovia after so much strife and turmoil do the people not deserve a force that will be far more capable of protecting them than anything Lovia has had before? Do you value socialist ideas over conservative even in the case of polarisation, and which parties are of most interest in polarisation? And would you support the confederacy referendum and if so do you support the idea of a confederate states of Lovia giving greater power to the people? Kunarian 21:16, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

I am against abolishing the abstention option. It may be a nicer form of contra, but I like that it's nicer. It doesn't seem to mean "not a chance," like contra does. It means "I have this doubt. . . please fix and maybe I'll go pro. . ." —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:29, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

@Kunarian: Some answers. :) I hope these are satisfactory. --Semyon 10:37, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Although a defence force is not really necessary IMO, it is a nice idea and I would support a good proposal for it, as long as it didn't exceed about 250 men (around the size of Monaco's). I would also like to consider the idea of a defence treaty with the USA.
 * 2) Generally I value conservative ideas over socialist ones. When I say I am against polarisation, I mean that I want the left and right to be able to work together in government, so no users are excluded, while of course maintaining their differences.
 * 3) By 'confederacy referendum' I suppose you mean a referendum on giving more power to the states? I don't think referenda are really useful in Lovia, because almost all users are members of Congress already. However, I certainly support giving more power to the states.

Brilliant! glad for the great answers. Kunarian 12:28, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

I did vote outside of the box. :D — Christopher Costello (Pikapi • Chat  • What's up ) 01:54, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, but not for me, so it doesn't count. :) --Semyon 12:19, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

A Moderate and Reformist
Hello! My name is William Krosby. I'm a member of the Liberal Democratic Party. I'm the candidate for Prime Minister from the centrist Coalition.

I support a government that can guide but not strictly control the economy, and moderate and centrist taxes and spending. I also believe that it is not the government's place to dictate morality when it is victimless. Gay marriage and abortion should be legal--if you do not support these, do not do it yourselves and turn a blind eye to those who are.

I also support reform of the Lovian system. I want to re-organize the executive branch into ministries and an active cabinet that does its job, and change the courts to be fair and unbiased judiciaries that can be trusted to make the right decision in courts of law.

Thanks for any votes. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:29, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Oos Wes Ilava (CCPL)


Oos Wes Ilava 10:42, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

I will vote for you, but not straight away. :) --Semyon 10:54, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'd like to wait a bit longer as well, but as you a closest to me in viewpoints, you surely get a vote from me too :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:39, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

You can now see why I will maintain my vote for you should the coalition fail. Btw do you support the confederate reform? and do you think christianity should be the primary religion or the only religion in Lovia or are you simply more concerned with it? Kunarian 12:59, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

''' NO I WILL NOT VOTE YOU. DO YOU KNOW WHY? I HATE JUST CHRISTIANITY BEING PROMOTED WHERE OTHER RELIGIONS CANNOT; I LIKE LOVIA THE WAY IT IS. '''  -- 14:29, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Why don't you go make the Conservative Buddhist Party of Lovia? It'd be awesome! —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:31, January 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * He kinda has...the Lovian Peace party, it has bad intentions, like a private milita n' such. Marcus/Michael Villanova 14:35, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * That party is a pro-juche party. It has nothing to do with Buddhism. It would probably ban religion, since for some reason authoritarian communist states like doing that. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:36, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

You guys clearly do not understand what Christian democracy means. Not that strange, as it's typically European. Christian democracy means governing a nation based on Christian principles such as peace, unity and tolerance. This means we don't promote Christianity, nor do we forbid other religions. We think all religions could have a place in Lovia. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:40, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

Don't forget intolerance. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:23, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * TM, I am a very tolerant human being. If I wasn't, I would've simply blocked all of you progressive people in one go and win the elections with 100% :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:30, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

My first plans

 * Companies that have strong presence have to pay Lovian taxes, even if they are registered in tax paradises like Jersey or Liechtenstein.
 * Chain stores may be barred from opening stores in favor of local shops. This is to keep livability, and to strenthen local benefits.
 * Toys included with fastfood should be forbidden Pierlot McCrooke 13:43, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Job bureaus should be established for the people who can not find work. People will only get 'uitkeringen' when the Job bureau can't find a job or are rejected for normal work by a specialized doctor due to handicaps Pierlot McCrooke 14:25, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

You only live twice...not


In the real world, you only have one life. Do you want to spend it wasting money on cigarettes and dying much faster, or would you rather breathe clean air and live a healthful life. If so, be sure to vote Labour in the current elections. Vote ABRAHAMS and VILLANOVA! And vote Lewis too! HORTON11 : •  22:38, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

I support this! Vote LDP too! :D —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:43, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you can't live to a ripe old age and still smoke... NOT! Johannes Heesters died two weeks ago at 108. He was still singing and playing in movies. He smoked for 90+ years, and he drank a lot of alcohol too. No cancer, no health problems, no trouble with his voice. Winston Churchill would be another example: he smoked and drank like there ain't no tommorrow and he made it to 90. He was also pretty obese. My next-door neigbor, who was a vegetarian, drank smoothies and fruitshakes and always went jogging, died at 46 from a heart-attack. Now I'm not saying smoking and drinking is good for you. That'd be silly. But happy people generally live much longer and more satisfying lifes then health-freaks who are always stressed out about how many calories they consume or afraid to inhale a little bit of smoke by accidant. Just sayin'. The glorious First Consul of Rome 22:52, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * But, most people who smoke a lot do have multiple problems. And I am not promoting people to be health freaks, that is wrong too. But Lovians should not be the type of guys that smoke 2 pack/day and spend thousands yearly on smokes. My grandpa smoke a ton and he did not die from it, but smoking triggered a bunch of other things that did. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 22:56, January 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * No, not "most people who smoke have multiple problems". My great-grandfather died at the rip old age of 95. Never got ill a single day in his life, didn't even catch a cold. He smoked a lotta cigars and drank a lot of brandy and cognac, though. My grandfather is still alive and doing well. He has no health problems and he smokes too. He can still do 15 push-ups with ease. And then I know this guy who is severely handicapped. He doesn't smoke, he doesn't drink, yet he's still fucked regardless of his lifestyle. You cannot forbid smoking because "some people get ill from it" or because "some people might increase the risk of cancer". You what sort of people the Lovians should be? The sort of people that are free to make their own choices in life, good or bad. They are not toddlers that need to be taken by the hand and shown what is right or wrong. The people of Lovia are smart enough to understand the results of their actions and to oversee the future. The glorious First Consul of Rome 23:04, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nothing personal, but as a conservative you don't know any better than to support smoking. Many of my great uncles/aunts got real bad from smoking (and smoking-related issues). And on another note, my grandmother drikns a lot, brandy, bourbon, wine at the table every day and she's fine. But she won't smoke at all. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 23:18, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't support smoking, but if the point that you were trying to get across in your image macro was that you plan on banning and/or illegalizing smoking, that is only taking more rights away from the people by establishing another pointless law. If you are so against smoking, you'd think you'd try outlawing cannabis, and things like that first. But then again I wouldn't support that either. :P — Christopher Costello (Pikapi • Chat  • What's up ) 01:52, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Being a smoker (and drinker :P) myself, I can say all that stuff about smoking is way too exaggerated. It's perfectly safe to smoke a few cigarettes a day :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 05:17, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Esch cigarette you smoke is cousing you more harm (so it's really not safe, its just conservative mumbo-jumbo to get support for the tobacco industry). And Chris, I am not trying to ban or illegalize smoking, I would like to regulate it, inform people about it (and the several hands of smoking) and ultimately get more to quit smoking. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 12:54, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * The Tobacco law we currently already have is quite dramatic, so on the legislative level no changes are necessary. Of course some campaigning won't hurt. I remember that Jamal once made a anti-smoking campaign, but it became inactive. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:48, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * It would be mostly educating and creating programs to help people quit smoking. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 14:18, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds great I'd say :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:42, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * The government should not force people (they do not need to, it's too much work), but it should help them help themselves. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 16:40, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, help them help themselves is bit negative è :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:45, January 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Horton is right. The government can not force people to stop smoking. I know how difficult a task it is (I speak NOT from experience). You can set up support groups, organize meetings and prepare schedules for participants in this program will CERTAINLY help people stop smoking (or at least REDUCING). Vote for LEWIS, VILLANOVA and ABRAHAMS. Wabba The I 17:43, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Wabba, please look at the statistics first. Since the '90's Dutch government has been putting millions of euros and guilders for anti-smoking compaigns, while the number of smokers dropped maybe 20%, being stable since the beginning of this century. Only the die-hards are left, they ain't gonna stop. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:04, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's in the netherlands. Lovia does not need to spend millions of euros, only a more modest amount. And btw, a more comprehensive anti-smoking law should be legislated, perhaps banning smoking in public areas (restaurants, cafes, stores, buses). HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 18:09, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Then should not the government, but an organization formed by a political party or public (non-smoking and smoking). They can support (grants and money) getting various members or the political party or founder. That should not have much money and besides, where is that money is needed (medication?). It helps nothing. Smokers should reduce unnecessary pills. What you talked about, which is the Netherlands. This is Lovia. Wabba The I 18:16, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Why is smoking at the top of our "government needs to deal with this" list? we have more important things like taxes, defence and legal systems we need to look at. Plus we don't need any government sponsored campaigns, attack ads are the worst ads. You don't attack someone because of their choice, you help them and telling them that "their penis is gunna droop, their lungs are tar or they kill other people with smoke" as if they are the devil himself, is an attack ad. You don't need huge reforms to deal with little problems, even big problems can be dealt with little solutions. We need more unity right now, not less. and on an off note VOTE HOFFMANN. Kunarian 18:18, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

But if no-one does a thing on the bropleme, it still will exist and be-come a bigger probleme. Edebast 18:27, January 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * We already have a solution that I proposed that wouldn't include raising taxes, funding attack campaigns or banning smoking. see it on the pub page. Kunarian 19:26, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Y U NO LIKE SMOKE??


 * *sighs* — Christopher Costello (Pikapi • Chat  • What's up ) 19:18, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * I find it ridiculous that progressives claim to be tolerant and liberal and then say things like 'as a conservative you don't know any better.' Back on topic, a ban on tobacco would fail for the same reason that prohibition did in the US; the market is too large to suddenly disappear, it'll just be provided illegally instead. NB this argument does not apply to things like cannabis or heroin because comparatively few people buy them. --Semyon 11:53, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Why CCPL is awesome!
Why CCPL, you ask? That's an easy one! Because God, my brothers and sisters, is just effing awesome. He is, in fact, so awesome, that I won't even be cursing in this message. The awesomeness is well-illustrated by the poster I will add below: Please, vote CCPL. Because my friends, CCPL is very cool and very hip. And CCPL spreaks your language. And knows what YOU want. And WHY you want what you want. Because God told us. So, vote CCPL. That's basically the message.
 * The glorious First Consul of Rome 19:23, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Support Joshua Katz, Porcine PM candidate!


A vote for Katz is a vote against prejudice and against pigotry. MOTCs, show your support for Katz, here, now! --Joshua Katz, 17:29, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

What is your position on prejudice against wild boars? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 18:53, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

I love sausages, bacon, ham, ribs and all things PORK (except organs). Unless you support that, I am not a supporter of HRH's party. HORTON11 : •  20:35, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

I have to admit, Mr. Krosby, that your question caught me slightly off-guard. However, I have consulted with His Imperial Highness, who gave me the following, roughly translated, explanation:
 * Boardom is the ideal state for all pigs. Ah, the joy of a simple life in the forest, unshackled to feeble man! It is clear to us, that in fact boars do not suffer from misguided prejudice as we do, trapped as we are between the Scylla and Charybdis of the farmer and the butcher.


 * Clearly, we would not wish to force human so-called 'civilisation' upon them, and boars will not receive duties such as citizenship, voting or ruling Lovia. However, if any boar wishes to take these up of his own accord, feeling he could live a better life with his domestic brethren, then we will be the last pig to stand in his way. Only he would be a very foolish porker.

Having gone to the trouble of giving you such a complete answer, Mr. Krosby, I feel the Emperor deserves some of your votes. As for you, Mr. Abrahams, yours is precisely the attitude we are fighting against. Would you find it acceptable for His Imperial Highness to express a desire to eat your family? For that it precisely what you have done to His Imperial Highness. Joshua Katz, 20:45, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

I have not done anything to HIH excenpt defend man's right to eat what he pleases. And why do you only defend pigs if there are many other animals that need protecting more (look at the millions of chicken stuffed into factory farm). You know, instead of arguing with the system why do you not just propose laws for the humane treatment of animals. HORTON11 : •  20:52, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Chickens are not worthy of comparison with pigs. And you say you 'have not done anything to HIH excenpt defend man's right to eat what he pleases!' Quite enough too, I should think! It is hard to conceive of a worse crime that the sullying of sacred porcine flesh with your filthy human gullet. Joshua Katz, 20:59, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

I think a pig's right to not be eaten is MUCH more important than a human's right to eat what they want. How barbaric of you to suggest that humans should eat whatever pleases them, Mr. Abrahams! On a side note, Mr. Katz, I'm afraid that the Emperor is not running and so I can't vote for him. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:55, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Due to blatant discrimination it is true the Emperor is not personally running, but he is represented by yours truly, Joshua Katz, 22:37, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Noted. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 01:51, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

The Time Has Come.
Good day fellow Lovians.

Today, I nominate one of our most outstanding politicians to become the Third Supreme Court Judge. I have carefully selected this nominee. He has worked very hard to achieve this outstanding, amazing honor. He is very distinguished, and although he may have recently joined, he is completely fit for this position and I look forward to working with him. This man is William Krosby.

Please comment below for your opinion. Thank you. --Bill An - 02:31, February 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * WTF ma[m] . --Lee Feng 02:32, February 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * One of them, yes. --Semyon 17:47, February 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * What does that mean? --Bill An - 23:02, February 7, 2012 (UTC)