User talk:TimeMaster

Welcome!
Hi, welcome to Wikination, the Lovia wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Social Democratic Party page. Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Regaliorum (Talk) 13:28, April 30, 2011
 * Here you have a proper welcome instead of an automatically generated message: welcome to Lovia! These are not are best times we are living at the moment, but we are working to get things rolling again. Therefore, all help is most welcome.  14:14, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah! Welcome! Lovia was unactive but were getting it re-active. If you stay active you can even join congress! I see you joined the LDP if you want you can join a more active party like the one i'm apart of CPL.nm or the SDP if you socialist. For more you can check out List of political parties in Lovia. Marcus/Michael Villanova 14:58, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

UNS
Currently the UNS-party has but one congressman. We could use one more, and we think YOU are our man. Interested? The Master&#39;s Voice 15:14, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * No thanks. I don't like the UNS' ideas. —Preceding signed comment added by TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:17, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, we are still a minor party but in a sea of leftism, a little diversity is always welcome, is it not? The Master&#39;s Voice 15:19, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Leftism is good. —Preceding signed comment added by TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:20, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well it's way to fucking big... if one party dominates everything, where's the fun? The Master&#39;s Voice 15:22, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * xD Who knows? Besides, I thought we had 3 large parties currently. Or maybe 2. —Preceding signed comment added by TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:23, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Congress
If you stay active you can join congress right now! We'd like you to join. Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:14, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, how? —Preceding signed comment added by TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:17, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

I'll add you to the list your person William Krosby right? Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:20, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yep. —Preceding signed comment added by TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:20, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Request to vote
In the second chamber forum to approve the new congress. Marcus/Michael Villanova 16:08, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

K. —Preceding signed comment added by TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:08, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Doesn't the current congress have to vote? The Master&#39;s Voice 16:10, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry if I wasn't supposed to. —Preceding signed comment added by TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:12, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

No you were suppose to. Thanks for the pro vote future congressman! Marcus/Michael Villanova 16:14, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Citizenship
You are entitled to full citizenship and the political rights that come with it. Just fill in some information and it will be all yours! I need (1) your character's full name, (2) a main address for your character and (3) your sex. Thanks in advance! 14:30, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * I already filled it out on the Citizen page. Let's see. . . William Krosby, male, 3 Old Port Avenue, Pines, Newhaven, Kings. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:32, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, saves me the work.  05:35, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Amish Kinley
This isn't any of your fault beacuse no one can settle on what Amish Kinley is, but a village is fine. The difference is 14 citizens I get that, but since Amish Kinley hasn't really been determined on what it really is we left it as a private LRC under Lovian rule. And since there closed of we let the latest newspaper results to determine it as a unwritten rule. It's totally up to you, but the latest Nova Times said 235 citizens. In any case good job with the census we really did need one ! Marcus/Michael Villanova 00:19, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

I'll keep it as a neighborhood using the neighborhood calculation. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 00:24, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

I'm going to propose a add-on law to the nice settlement act saying some communites can be private for reiligous or other reasons with congresses approval. Marcus/Michael Villanova 00:28, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Marc Thomassen
Hey, please don't count fake users in the census figures. Census is based on the houses sold to real users. That's why if one user buys a house the total number grows with 121 (includes 120 fictive users per inhabitant). --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:36, May 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * PS, you forgot to check apartment buildings :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:38, May 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * I have the bad habit of giving fictive guys a home. Jonathan Frum isn't real either, sorry if this complicates things. 09:10, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah many people live in apts, including me in Downtown NC. Marcus/Michael Villanova 11:54, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

I did count apartments, but a lot of people were counted twice or thrice last census. I think that is the OOC reason why the numbers are down. I'll remove thomassen. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 12:18, May 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, then I think we used to use a different system then you. People who have two homes are counted twice, fictive users are not counted, apartment buildings also count. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:09, May 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * That makes no sense. You don't get counted twice in a census. And I DID count people in apartment buildings. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:10, May 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, you said that, but you did forget the apartment building in Millstreet though. Well, I believe it does and we've used this system several years now, so there's no reason in changing it so suddenly. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:11, May 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * I really don't believe that I didn't count that. I'll double check it. Also, FYI -- using a system for several years does not make it good if it is faulty. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:21, May 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, I did not count it. Odd. But all of the residents there do not have their primary residences there. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:23, May 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay. Yes, I know, but it also doesn't mean that it has to be changed immeadiately without discussing it first :) In this case, we've decided for this system, because it's less work counting the inhabitants and stimulates buying houses and making your town more attracting, so people are going to buy a second house in your town. :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:24, May 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * If you look at the town page, you will still see people have a house, even if it is not their primary residence. So that doesn't really make a difference if they are counted there or not. And some people like quaint towns! —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:26, May 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I like the old system and I'm willing to fight for it ;) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:27, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

K then. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:28, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

1st of May
On the First of May there was no replacement for the Donia I government - the Villanova Government was not installed until Late April when activity had dropped drastically and measures had to be taken. Get your facts straight brother. The Master&#39;s Voice 12:33, May 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't call me things that I'm not, thanks. The Villanova government was installed on May 1 when we approved the government. We approved the CONGRESS on April 30. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 01:32, May 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Boy do I feel silly; I read march 1... instead of May 1. Sorry bro, my bad. The Master&#39;s Voice 13:27, May 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * He already told you he is not your bro, sonny boy.  08:25, May 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * He's not your boy, guy! Marcus/Michael Villanova 11:51, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Action
The King has been absent for a long time now, and has not been active since February. I have opened a discussion here. I won't bring it to Congress just yet, as I want to discuss this with my fellow Citizens (such as you) first. Then if we have some sort of consensus we may vote on this. This will either yield us a new, better monarch, or force the current monarch to return. Both would be good. The Master&#39;s Voice 18:34, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Prefer
I like your state reform better, let's go foward with it, I support all changes. Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:07, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:08, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

PM?
Is it that we don't put foward a PM anymore but basically, the coalition would but there PM foward. Marcus/Michael Villanova 11:41, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, the government coalition puts their PM forward, and also, the government coalition is organized between the end of polls and inauguration. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 11:43, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Then there will have to be alot of coalition talks i see Marcus/Michael Villanova 11:48, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. Also, the condensement bill is now null and void. Now, we can delegate the positions to the same person twice by using one of their controlled people a minister spot. Say if Jon Johnson was under your control, you could give him the minister of finance while you were the minister of justice at the same time. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 12:06, May 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * You'll annoy people if you give yourself all the positions, Marcus. --Semyon 12:09, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

The collective government coalition has to agree unanimously, or someone will leave and make the opposition coalition the government. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 12:13, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Ha, that would be a classic thing! I would never do that. Marcus/Michael Villanova 12:23, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Appearance
would you like to appear on Chef Telemann, cooking with... for June 2? HORTON11 16:12, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, I love cooking! —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:12, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

I would like to vote for you, but where can I vote? Peralt 22:58, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

You have to have 50 edits and have 4 days of activity before you can vote. Once you reach those milestones, you can vote at Forum:Federal elections, put a under my name. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:17, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Conworlds
On Cornworlds, I see you have a large presence in the Black Sea, please help me block his oil reserves in Bulgaria and if possible block his oil supplies from Russia. I'm wanting this threat to be gone from Europe. Nathaniel Scribner 22:20, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

I like how you said "On Cornworlds" Is all you think about corn? Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:23, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

I'd rather not have the USSR get involved in a giant war. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 02:19, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, ahaha- I didn't even notice I did that. Prehaps I do :D Nathaniel Scribner 12:41, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Lukas Hoffmann
I would like to remove one MOTC from our list and replace her by someone else. That does not mean I want the page to be deleted. I've seen worse, and I could improve the page. The Master&#39;s Voice 07:47, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, then just improve the other article, I just marked it for deletion since it was a stub and useless since she wasn't a politician anymore. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:04, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I am quite thrilled to be a new resident myself. Now let me check out those links... --COP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss) 03:22, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Spotlight Request
Hi. Wikination is in generally good shape, and I appreciate you linking to the conversation with the admin. There are a few tweaks that it would need to meet the spotlight criteria. While I can see on the talk page that most of you do not use the Wikia skin, visitors clicking the spotlight will. So please take the time to customize the skin (an administrator can use Special:ThemeDesigner and it does not take very long at all, but please feel free to ask if you need any help with it). Likewise please customize the message at Mediawiki:Community-corner. There is a small handful of uncategorized pages as well. Please let me know on my talk page when you have taken care of these issues and I will be happy to add the wiki to the approved spotlight list. -- Wendy (talk ) 04:01, July 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * @TimeMaster: I categorized those pages. Any ideas for the Community-corner box? Maybe we can use it for announcements like 'elections are coming up', 'new TV show is a big hit', etc? Let people know what is going on, what is hot? 07:20, July 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah it's for stuff like that or "URGENT VOTE IN SECOND CHAMBER" Marcus/Michael Villanova 11:21, July 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah it's for stuff like that or "URGENT VOTE IN SECOND CHAMBER" Marcus/Michael Villanova 11:21, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I propose we put a modified version of the welcome message and announcements there: Mediawiki:Community-corner. Also, check the talk page if you want. Next we should make a skin. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 12:01, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

The law
You know, funny thing about the law... we ought to obey it, right? You got some talkback at those Royal Family talk pages, just so you know, bro. The Master&#39;s Voice 21:03, September 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * PS: It doesn't get ANY clearer then this... The Master&#39;s Voice 14:03, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

I have a feeling he's your sock since he didn't want it before. I dislike the idea of Lashawns being in the line of succession very strongly anyway. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:53, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Why would you dislike that idea so strongly? Oh and as it just so happens, both me and Horton are in favour of including them and expanding the Royal Family in general. The Master&#39;s Voice 14:56, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

I prefer having the royal family of small sensible people not people who have seven kids and planning on more. . . And the Lashawn stuff is incomplete anyways and as I said BastardRoyale seems to be your sock. . . maybe YgoD too. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:59, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * TimeMaster, what do you mean by "small sensible people" (small of stature, perhaps? ) and why is a family of seven children a bad thing? If I recall correctly Tolstoy had eleven children and Darwin had eight, and both of them where very wise and intelligent people... Since when is having a large family a sign of stupidity or lack of intelligence? If so, then this is entirely new information to me. The Master&#39;s Voice 15:03, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I mean of small stature. I did not say that, but I think that the Lashawns are too big of a deviation from the royal family. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:05, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * In what way? I mean, Arthur III and Arthur II where also, by all accounts, rather "unusual" people. They didn't have big families, but if that's the only difference. Philip has a large family, but George doesn't... If a family typically isn't very fertile, is it then impossible for one member to break with the general rule of having few children by raising a large(r) family? Character-wise, I don't think they deviate so much from the rest of the family. So again: in which way to you think they are so different? The Master&#39;s Voice 15:12, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

In number of children and in that they are directly controlled by BastardRoyale (excluding Dimi but he gets to be king ). —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:13, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * They aren't really controlled by anyone, I'd say. Neither is the rest of the Royal Family, as Dimitri has made very clear he has left us with no intention of ever returning. So that argument doesn't really hold in the light of this fact. "In number of children" is also a silly reason: only one of Arthur's sons has a large family, the other son has a normal, average-sized family. The one son that did have a large family would then be a "black sheep" to the rest of the family, in your point of view? The Master&#39;s Voice 15:17, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

I suppose. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:50, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * FYI Lashawn (and Donia) are definitely both socks of TMV - not that that's a reason to oppose his suggestion. --Semyon 18:17, September 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Very true, Semyon, such assertions are definetely no reason for anyone to appose my suggestion. The Master&#39;s Voice 19:15, September 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, although I'm convinced you are Donia, I don't really care. :) You (or he, if you prefer that) were blocked totally unfairly and illegally, so I'm quite happy for you to carry on as you are. I did, however, prefer Donia as a character. --Semyon 19:36, September 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sometimes you cannot get what you want because people prevent you from it. And something else you should think of is this: behind these characters is still one and the same person, and that person is not a "bad person", per se. If an actor plays Stalin in a movie, does that mean he is a murderous dictator in real life aswell? Just like the actor who plays Superman can be a complete @#!*% . The Master&#39;s Voice 19:40, September 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, it's not that I dislike you (I don't). Nor do I think that you're a "bad person". It's simply that I don't like the 'back-story' behind Blaca so much, because I am not so keen on far-right atheists. --Semyon 19:47, September 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * You know, I'm constantly trying to "reinvent myself". So why pick a Christian conservative once more and make it all so predictable? An atheist is about as far from my real-life persona as it gets, so that is why I made LaBlaca an atheist. A very orthodox, old-fashioned Christian is also pretty far from what I really am; a more or less moderate Christian.
 * The far-right part is closer to me, although many of the views held by LaBlaca are not my own. As Dimitri once pointed out, I put little bits of myself in my characters, but only just that, little bits. I am neither a nazi, nor a communist, nor an atheist. But I like to pretend, just for the @#!*% of it. Say you are playing an online game and you are a lame, average, uninteresting person, would you recreate yourself entirely or make yourself into a total badass, just because you can? The Master&#39;s Voice 20:09, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

I do believe BastardRoyale is a sock of Magnus's. However, he denies it. A long time ago it was agreed that the Lashawns were not in the royal family and just because of the constitution doesn't mean they get in -- they resigned a long time ago. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 00:38, September 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, the constitution says they should be in and, they didn't even resign and wish to be included so this is a non-discussion of you opposing something that is supported both by the law and by me, Horton and, apparantly, also Semyon. What you are doing, TimeMaster, is lying and twisting things. Sorry to say, but it's just a load of bullocks. The Master&#39;s Voice 06:48, September 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * I am kind of neutral on this point, but I think that it's of paramount importance that users are considerate rather than legalistic. If you want them to be in the Line of Succession, hey, it doesn't bother me. But you must then reciprocate, and not try and make Philip king without agreement from everyone. --Semyon 12:25, September 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, Semyon, I have said this dozens of times and I will say it again, one last time: I do not want to make any of these people King or Queen of Lovia. Not within the next hundred years or so, that is. If they are to be included, they will be below all others, at the bottom of the list. The sons of Arthur III and their offspring would be last in line to the throne because of the condition under which they were born; out of wedlock. Not much would change, if anything, on the ground. The only difference would be that a younger, more fertile branch of the Royal Family would be added, thus expanding the LoS significantly without having to invent entirely new people to the Royal Family. In many ways, it is much less radical a change then Horton and TimeMaster creating new people and giving pre-excisting members of the Royal Family new siblings. That is much more radical then what I am trying to do here, which is to change the status of characters who are widely accepted and who's status is protected by our laws and our constitution. Do you now understand, Semyon? I sure hope so. I'm getting tired of explaining it all the time, you see. For some reason, TimeMaster hates this plan but his arguments aren't very convincing, IMHO. }} The Master&#39;s Voice 13:15, September 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think they should just be removed because part of the idea of them was to not have them in the LoS. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:36, September 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * If I were you, TMV, I'd appeal to the Judge to ask for a ruling, but we need to appoint one. --Semyon 14:50, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd rather save us all the trouble since there the Lashawn's are in the LoS according to the constitution and according to the editor behind them, as can be seen in the link on the first comment I made in this section. There are no viable arguments against this, and only one person objects, TimeMaster. His arguments? He does not like them... Better just go ahead and update the them Line of Succession and leave out all the drama. The Master&#39;s Voice 15:03, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

"Part of the idea of them was to not have them in the LoS." ≠ "I don't like it." Sorry Magnus. And why do you put after three out of four posts? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:26, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * I guess I could do without the smileys... It's just that some people out here find it difficult to recognize a joke, I have learned in the past. :)
 * And whatever "the idea of these people" is or was, it is not at all relevant and you know it. Because excluding these people from their rightful place in the LoS is a direct and grave violation of the Lovian constitution, something that doesn't seem to bother you one bit. Not that it has bothered me in the past, but let us do this according to the book just this one time, shall we? It's the least I can do after breaking just about every law their is to break. The Master&#39;s Voice 07:43, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Prince James's kids
I was hoping to push back the dates of birth of Prince James' kids to the early/mid 1920s. This would have to be as somegrandchildren of these people are barely older than their grandparents. HORTON11 19:05, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

The second cousins were forty years older than dimitri, even though they were supposed be to less, I just had to push it to twenty years -- it is a bit unrealistic and the royal family doesn't have kids at 20, even for the James-type of people. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 19:07, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Back then it was more normal for this to happen. PS I just found another problem. Prince Thomas is listed as Dimitri's grandfather in King Joseph's page but also as Dimi's dad in his page. HORTON11 19:09, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

It should be dimi's dad. I just think 20 is a bit too young. . . so I pushed it to 32, which gives them more time for being crazy. XD —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 19:11, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Having kids at such a young age is the craziest thing they did, and also Thomas was born in 1938 so he's old enough to be his granddad and too old to be his dad. HORTON11 19:16, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

He could be either. The page says they liked to do crazy things, so that would give them like 2 years to do all that stuff before kids. That's why they should be born later. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:05, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Even with kids they still did crazy and unusual things, so they don't impede that. I was already working on the bios for many family members before you changed the dates so now that they're up please don't change them again. Also what about making Thomas DImi's grandfather. We could say he had Dimi's dad in 1960-1965. HORTON11 06:24, September 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Horton: Prince Thomas married late in life with a woman who was more then twenty years his junior. Before you change his age, remember that his mother, Queen Lucy, was born in the 1890s. And that Dimitri, who wrote the page, also wrote that there was some controversy about the age difference between Thomas and his wife. Also, please take note: it is not at all unusual for men to father children at an old age. Anthony Quinn (Guns of Navarone, Zorba the Greek actor) had children well into his 70s, Hugh Hefner had sons at 60+ and Marlon Brando had his last son at the age of 70. Jacob Zuma of South Africa, also in his 70s, had his last child just two years ago and Sarkozy of France knocked up his trophy wife Carla Bruni recently (and he's also in his late-fifties).
 * Btw: why did no member of our Royal Family ever divorce or seperate and remarry at some point? There isn't much drame in our Royal Family, not as much as is usually seen in other Royal Families around the world. Just my two cents. The Master&#39;s Voice 07:16, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

A message
Just to inform you, TimeMaster, Pierlot would like to have a word with you. About something political, if I'm not mistaken. The Master&#39;s Voice 20:24, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok. Edit: err, where can I find him? He's not on the chat. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:25, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * He must be offline then. He'll be back tommorrow, I'm sure. He always is. The Master&#39;s Voice 20:28, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

You've got it man. Just give me a day to get back on track with things, and Christopher will be back in business! Thanks for that, and I hope that Wikination progresses past the slump we're in!--COP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss) 01:13, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

I noticed your edit to my character's profile. Please don't tell me that in Lovia, that the internet is restricted to the country. If so, I can work around that, but it would be nice to know, as I have Communipedia set on a world-wide scale. Also, message me once I officially make it into congress so that I can update my character's page a little more. Thanks, and cheers! --COP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss) 20:52, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

Well, it's not limited, but it's a guideline to not create gigantic things like a huge social network that is bigger than Twitter and MySpace. That's why I tuned it down a bit. Also, k. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:09, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

50 is not majority
Nor is it minority. With 50 seats they are not larger than the opposition, so they are not a majority :) It's an equality: 50 = 50, while 51 ≥ 49 (majority) and 49 ≤ 51 (minority). In a political context this is rare, as practically speaking no one is able to govern, quite near the current Dutch situation though. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 04:51, October 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * And even more strangely is that this stimulates cooperation between different majorities formed at the spot around a certain proposal, only to fall apart for the next. Very curious indeed.  06:05, October 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * In the world of politics, it's business as usual once again. Meanwhile the revolution continues and the situation is a far cry from stable. The Master&#39;s Voice 08:04, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Due to this fine line I just said it had 50 seats. :/ Does CPL.nm want to rejoin? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 11:02, October 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Not at all; it was our moderate wing that wanted a coalition with the liberals. Now that they feel strong, they leave us. Rejoining would be a bad move for the party, but we will support any good proposal and don't back down when responsibility needs to be taken. 16:56, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Cool thanks! I'll continue to edit regularly, and will contribute whenever I get the chance. Thanks again! --COP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss) 00:07, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

News
Got some news for ya right here, Sir. Almost all the major badguys from Lovia's past that are still with us today are now involved in the conflict. For now, that is, because obviously our days are numbered. The glorious First Consul of Rome 16:43, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Cute. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:46, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * In a way, yes. Like a big, happy reunion! :D The glorious First Consul of Rome 16:47, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Adding categories
I'm not purposely adding the categories, I'm sorry. Seriously. -- 中亚人/中亞人 (Chinasian/Jeffwang16)*跟我谈话 14:29, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. When you edit, the same ones get added again, which is kind of weird. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:30, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

Something for La Quotidienne
Oos has now joined the rebellion, the Civil War has effectively ended as UNLOR forces only hold Kings and all other states are now virtually in the hands of the rebels. It seems as if Yuri has now given up, his spirit broken by the unexpected support of Il Duce Octavian and Ilava's sudden betrayel... This is a historic moment in Lovian history, although things are still very uncertain. The glorious First Consul of Rome 16:15, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

French Wikination
Quand est-ce qu'on va commencer cet nouveau wiki? HORTON11 16:36, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Il commenca demain. Je suis prêt. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:07, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

As-tu vu les commentaires que j'ai fait dans mon talk page, et aussi la carte plus detaille? HORTON11 20:13, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Je connais une personne avec les compétences de dessiner. (on Conworlds Wiki) Ta carte est bonne. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:15, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Damn you guys, I'll have to use google translate to understand what you guys are saying... Yes, I'm that bad at french... The glorious First Consul of Rome 20:17, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * I actually understand everything :D --Il Duce Octavian 20:17, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well then you should learn some Französisch. It can come in handy. HORTON11  20:19, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * XD Nice one TMV. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:21, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * I just suck at French... most French girls speak english well enough, though... The glorious First Consul of Rome 20:23, October 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Come live in Belgium for a year (the Wallonian part) and you'll be an expert. HORTON11  20:25, October 26, 2011 (UTC)

Congress chart
Two issues: I don't exactly get where you want to have the speaker. Also, who is the speaker - what party is he/she in? 13:24, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Speaker is LDP (Krosby). Remember, there was an election and stuff and Oos abstained because he was opposed to the post and etc. Basically the speaker should be positioned about right between the two ends of the semi circle. The semi circle of 99 seats would arc above the speaker's 1 seat in the middle bottom. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 13:30, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

I think I got it now. But there are an awful lot of parties involved, it's going to looks like an LSD trip... 13:44, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

You can make one or two seat parties independent/other instead of having a color for each 1/2-member party. That's what was done in the Tunisian chart, since they have lots of tiny parties. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 13:45, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll try that. In addition I will mix in a grey-tone, so that the color range is narrowed. 13:51, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, good. Just a reminder on the CCPL color - Even though their main color is red, CPL.nm already has red so they should be teal. LDP is probably sky blue instead of pink, and SDP green instead of red, because SPP should take another color that is reddish. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:11, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I came up with this (sadly before reading the above comment). Just tell me if you want anything altered on the color/composition. 14:30, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Wow! That looks great. I think CPL.nm, Labour, and SDP's colors are too similar, so if you could apply the colors I suggested that would be great. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:33, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

I'll diversify them a little more. 14:33, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Looks better. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:37, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * I only added some pink/purple to the SDP but it clarifies a lot. 14:39, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Well, this is good. Hopefully, Marcus will merge SPP with Labour and make LLCP again so we can have less parties but he keeps saying things like "nokay", so I'm not sure. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:46, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Also-Can you mark the gray as "Independent/Other"? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:46, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

2 things. Communism is different from Progressivism, so I'm not objecting to a WFP-SDP-SPP-Labour party. But Keep it to the party name of Labour but a differnt Logo etc. But in connection with other labour parties. Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:48, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not really part of the moderate leftism sector so I can't really decide, but what I really want is for Labour to be the LLCP. I really like the name and logo of the LLCP--all of those WFP-SDP-SPP-LLCP parties could be in a political alliance. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:51, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Well that's what you want but no. A Labour party sounds more like "solidarity" and for the progressive workers. Oh and also I hate to play debbie-downer but the chart is wrong, Jackson Welsh is in congress, and is a Green Party member. Sorry to point that out. Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:58, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

No, it's right, we put all the one or two member parties as independents. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:12, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Oh okay didn't know =] Marcus/Michael Villanova 16:13, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. =) Really though, I think the LLCP is THE best party logo on the site. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:14, October 29, 2011 (UTC)

Help
the User: Jeffwang is becoming stubborn about the police because he says I can not be the commisioner, even though it was agreed by Horton11 (my cousin) and you and Sunkist. Granero 01:04, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Ok. Jeff, Granero is the commissioner. It was agreed on because Wabba can't speak English, and Horton said so. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 01:05, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. I hope he will understand this, because it is becoming irritant. Granero 01:10, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

It's over
La Quotidienne will have the scoop. It's over. The glorious First Consul of Rome 17:04, October 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nice article. Two things though:


 * 1) My second name is Gerald, not Gordon
 * 2) UNLOR did not lead the innocent people out of the mansion, La Blaca lead them to safety, bringing his daughter and her children to the cellar and positioning himself by the door to protect them. It was there that he was found and shot - check the link I gave you, it explains the operation.
 * In any case, the war will now soon be over. The Republic of the Liberated Territories has surrendered itself completely and is in the hands of the Lovian authorities. Only Oceana is now in rebel hands but Il Duce and Ilava are heavily weakened by today's losses and have completely run out of allies. Of all the major rebel leaders and commanders, one has fled and lost all support (Koshkov) and one is still free (Il Duce). All others are either dead or captured. The glorious First Consul of Rome 21:15, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Interesting... Koshkov should be marked as "Unable to Lead" or something like that. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:33, October 30, 2011 (UTC)

Green Party
You should reall ask promission of the person's party before changing a logo. Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:01, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

That's okay. I'm good. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:16, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Are you sure cuse ur not. Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:45, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yes I am, the old logo words didn't look good, so I changed it to a better font. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 00:30, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Marcus, he was just trying to help out, and Time just ask him before you change the logo on him. -Sunkist- 00:38, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed... =) —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 00:39, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

But I really did like the old one it wasn't your party. Marcus/Michael Villanova 09:53, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, then I will just give it an MOTC next election. =) I only changed the font to a more readable one, you know. Everything else is the same. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 10:57, November 4, 2011 (UTC)

What bugs you?
Please explain why. --中亚人/中亞人 (Chinasian/Jeffwang16)*跟我谈话 02:12, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

All the Goyou names are weird, every single one is a cheesy portmanteau, and you buy too many plots. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 03:03, November 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. --中亚人/中亞人 (Chinasian/Jeffwang16)*跟我谈话 23:49, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

What's cheesy about "William Krosby"? Sorry if you didn't want the truth, —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 00:41, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

WHAT THE HELL! I just told Jeff to not further edit it and you start deleting stuff! You do not have permission to edit it while I am still writing it, much less while in my namespace! I hadn't even proposed it yet, and everyone things that they should be adding their two-cents! Lest I checked, you weren't even on our side of the argument. I'll compromise and keep some of your additions. Who even is the Secretary of Welfare? Please not again! There's something called a talk page.--LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss) 15:11, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I just deleted some stuff Jeff added that makes no sense. :/ And the current situation with police is that they are not appointed by Congress, they are appointed by the secretary of welfare. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:06, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about me losing my temper.

And yes, it is. A namespaced article is an article written under your name. Anything with the title formatted as  is in that user's namespace, or their personal article space. It doesn't have to be official, and they are mostly used as personal sandboxes. --LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss) 18:55, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:00, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Russia/Conworlds
I've been waiting for Russia to open up, but I've been stuck with European nations. Are you coming back, and if not, could I get the USSR? I've been working on some pages over Russia. Contact me when you can. -Sunkist- 01:35, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Why are you contacting me on Wikination? And yes, we can keep sharing the USSR, as was before. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 01:39, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

You seem more active on the wikia, I also came to look around. You haven't edit it in for about a few months, Russia is currently up for disconnection. -Sunkist- 01:46, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

You can use it. And it's the USSR, not Russia. Also, for Conworlds issues, please contact me on Conworlds Wiki, not here. I will get the message just as fast. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 02:20, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Eleventh Amendment
I have been considering your edits to the Eleventh Amendment. Before I propose it, I figured that your edits were substantial, and that you deserve to be listed as one of the article's authors for contributing to it. If you would like, I would be more than happy to list one of your characters as someone who had helped in it's creation. Once again, I am sorry for snapping back at you earlier, you were only trying to help. --LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss) 22:40, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, you can add me if you would like. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 02:16, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

One thing
Would you like to work withy me on setting up a 2011 (or 2012) soccer season (if Marcus doesn't)? PS join me on fw chat if you can. HORTON11 16:35, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe, but I'm not a soccer fan. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 19:01, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

A shame, cause it really is a great sport. HORTON11 19:12, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Plaza Downtown - Allow your companies to have a perfect business workplace!
The best place to have your business is in Downtown Noble City, and now, there is a tall building, called the Plaza Downtown. Rent your business some rooms and allow free flow commerce! Hurry, floors are limited! -- Bill An of Goyou, 18:10, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Matthew McComb
Can't really make a difference, so I've been floating around. Saved the War Horse wiki from vandals, helping Pikapi on Halo Fanon, the usual rounds. ---''It's all here, black and white, clear as crystal. 03:02, November 29, 2011 (UTC)''

Question, When can I become a citizen? ---''It's all here, black and white, clear as crystal. 03:14, December 6, 2011 (UTC)''

When you have 50 edits, and I think 5 days of time, so you just need the 50 edits. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 11:57, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

How does that Work? ---''It's all here, black and white, clear as crystal. 19:42, December 11, 2011 (UTC)''

A coalition? I am afraid that I don't really know the terms of a political coalition. If ours would involve me dissolving Positive Lovia and incorporating it into the LDP, I would rather remain separate entity. If it is a temporary agreement like a partnership, and you could give me some details on how things would work, I'd consider. Cheers, --LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss) 22:50, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

If it's really that simple, it sounds like a deal. Where do we begin? :) --LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss) 23:22, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

It's a really funny song. ---''It's all here, black and white, clear as crystal. 02:36, December 15, 2011 (UTC)''

font
I don't have it but I wouldn't view it as too nessesary. Unless you feel like it of course. Kunarian 17:29, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Anti-Monopoly Legistlation
Be careful with this, we need to be able to stop monopolisation without damaging major companies and stopping the potential of small companies. This will most likely be as labourous as Yuri's Labour act. Kunarian 02:11, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Scribner Pharmaceutical s
Is there a way to get this page back? Scribner Pharmaceuticals ---Sunkist- 02:27, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Just ask Oos to restore it. There is an easy way to get it back. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 03:26, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

I get what you're saying. Right now, I'm still working on the perfect logo. The thing is, I don't have an image editing program to make the image a PNG, so I am at a loss here. :p --LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss) 04:12, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

That's impossible. There is a way in every image editing software, there should be a choice of what file you want to save it as. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:24, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Lovian Military
I think that considering the idea of a Lovian military being considered too over the top from the left and too important to the right, I would like to ask your opinion on working towards certain points on a national military, hear me out, it could work and not be over the top and not cost Lovia the shirt off its back. I'll post with details. Kunarian 01:07, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

My opinion is that there should not be a military, but instead a strong police. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 11:57, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

I know, I'm beggining to understand your point of view. But seems that Horton, Granero and Pikapi have bypassed congress and established a Lovian Military, first under the name of the Lovian Special Forces and then just Lovian Defence Forces. They have completely ignored Lovian law and the government won't supply me with a Judge to deal with them. If this continues drastic measures will need to be taken agianst them. 82.18.203.83 22:28, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

I went to the congress to hope that they make it legal. Granero 22:34, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Timemaster, I am doing everything as possible to follow the rules and make it peaceful, but Kunarin is being stubborn and does not want to see that I (and Pikapi) are trying to make good. He wants to inflamme the situation a lot, so please come on and try and negotiate. Granero 22:55, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

You are not doing good, you made a military without concent from congress and won't stop. I am stopping you from breaking the law but now it seems that teaching you the law through court would definately service better. You need to back down and completely stop this. 82.18.203.83 22:57, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

I am stopping and I undid the military and you still continue argueing when I want to stop it and be peaceful. Granero 22:58, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

You have not stopped you are spreading it to other pages. You have not undone the military, you have simply covered it with face words like humanitarian and peaceful aid. 82.18.203.83 23:01, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

I remo9ved the military. And the law also says "''The Federal Police is able to set up special units for crime prevention, investigation, training, traffic and many other special tasks ." Granero 23:02, December 20, 2011 (UTC)''

Then take away all of its military applications. And do not list it as "like a military" and keep it to only humanitarian and peaceful aid. 82.18.203.83 23:04, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

The military part is only for special occasions like war and only the congress can decide it, no body else. Granero

So please, try to see that I am not trying to control it, only to porvide a security option for Lovia. Granero 23:08, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Its not even that you are trying to control it anymore, you are completely bypassing congress, that is illeagal and at worst you can expect a short ban, at best a slap on the wrist. 82.18.203.83 23:10, December 20, 2011 (UTC)

Timemaster I think we solved the issues so there is no need to take action. Granero 01:01, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

The Special Forces should be deleted. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 02:02, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind, it's good now. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 02:03, December 21, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I was always "link-crazy". -- LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss - What's up) 00:07, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

What exactly do you mean by social rights? Also, when me and Kunarian make our military proposals, who would you be inclined to side with, if you are to support anyone? I researched "national guards", and I've incorporated the one positive aspect of them into my act. That they would be a reserve force. Do you have any other suggestions, or do you disagree?-- LCPCOP Christopher Costello (Pikapi - Discuss - What's up) 03:34, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

You should look at the civil war and see how a military could have stopped it without being a full standing military. Thats a bit of advice. It's realistic and will give you an idea of what you need operational in Lovia. Kunarian 03:45, December 22, 2011 (UTC)

Map Colours
Really? I did not know that. Does this mean that the discouraging lack of industry slots free I keep finding can be remedied? along with the lack of farms too.

Time Master, with all due respect, Kunarian is being an ass right now. Looking at your talk page, the Special Forces of Lovia are a heavily disputed topic. I think a Military is in the best interest of this country. Even if it's a small defence force, at least we'll be able to say we are defended by our people. This whole situation is like being a parent to a child ready for being exposed to the world. When do you let go of their hand? ---''It's all here, black and white, clear as crystal. 00:26, December 23, 2011 (UTC)''

No, we do not need a military. For example, Tuvalu, which has 11,000 people, has this, from Wikipedia: Tuvalu has no regular military forces, and spends no money on the military. Lovia has 21,000, so. . . I think if Tuvalu functions perfectly without one, we are fine. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 00:36, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

No offence Therider but you simply fail to understand the million violations that Granero did by simply changing stuff without doing it by the book, have you even read Lovian law? On the military side, the difference between us and Tuvalu is that Tuvalu isn't exactly a place of great political strife that just went through a civil war. I don't think we need a military of even 1000 maybe even something lower than 500 but in my opinion we need one, in the form of the national guard. 82.18.203.83 01:08, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

ANYWAY! i made this section to ask whether you can change what a slot operates as not to argue over a military so if you please, can we get back to the topic. 82.18.203.83 01:09, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

No, no, no! A national guard is a terrible idea. You probably think a military is bad because it's expensive. You'd be right, I have no argument there. The biggest problem is that the other countries will have to protect us if we were ever invaded. Do you know what happened to Ethiopia durring the era before World War II? Taken over because other countries said that the needs of the many (the other countries) outweighed the needs of the few (the Ethiopians).

The UN could probably make us have some way to defend our selves. Of course, there are bad way a ruler can abuse his/her power over the military. Do you know about the answer to Chinese protesters in China? They were for Democracy. The ruler sent tanks to wipe out the protesters, to "clear the streets". Before that, there was "Bloody Sunday" in Russia.

I understand your worry. I think it over every time I write something. Just remember me when it's time to let go of Lovia's innocence and create a military.

That is all, ---''It's all here, black and white, clear as crystal. 02:42, December 23, 2011 (UTC)''

Imperialism is dead, the UN would be happy to save us from other people trying to take Lovia over. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 03:17, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

As I have said before National Guard is a nicer way of saying Defence Force which is a nicer way of saying Armed Forces. I hate the idea of other nations stepping on Lovian soil to sort our problems out but I won't rush in an act about a military. This is probably one of the biggest reforms Lovia could make and should not be treated lightly, I am writing in control into the act so that it can be used in dire situations effectively but cannot be rushed out by extremists happy to use the military to stomp things out.

As I have said Lovia's threat is not primarily from the outside but from the inside. The National Guard act would bring about the military most seek, able to be changed quickly each year to suit the needs of Lovia at that time. Kunarian 03:23, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

 And once again Timemaster may you answer my first question. Kunarian 03:23, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

If you're talking about the colours, then yes, but only in moderation. I don't think the National Guard should be its own branch in Lovia's government/police system, instead it should be a branch of the police that is specialized on operations like SWAT, rescue, and other things that I can't think of at the moment. Also, can you stop adding all these "p" and span things? I don't see anything different and the code makes it harder to read your real message. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 03:31, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Dunno how the p's got there. Glad about the map colours. I think it should be separate because the department of welfare already has too much under it's belt, monitoring, equipping and processing even a reserve force is a task. Plus the royal guard that you mentioned its on the federal police page, but its more of a security and bodyguard force for royalty and congress than a homeland defence force. Kunarian 03:47, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, but if you want a separate department, I want police to go with it. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 13:41, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

Okay.

RE: Blank
I think LoviaTours should be part of Air Lovia, but I can restore it. --J&bull;t 00:07, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Please close a vote
Forum:Second_Chamber Please close it. --J&bull;t 01:57, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

I've done so. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 02:11, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Reboot my memory
I remember there was a law a few months back about tax and revuene that yuri made...did that pass? Reason being I want the government to finally have a Tax and Budget plan. Marcus/Michael Villanova 13:36, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Brb
I'm going to be on a mini-holiday, dunno if I'm back on sunday or monday but I am still running, still voting and will finish the National Guard act on the holiday and upload what I've done after. 82.2.66.7 20:51, December 27, 2011 (UTC) AKA Kunarian

How does that work? ---''It's all here, black and white, clear as crystal. 02:04, December 31, 2011 (UTC)''

New Town. Look for Matt's name. ---''It's all here, black and white, clear as crystal. 02:39, December 31, 2011 (UTC)''

Thanks. You can now post your candidacy. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 02:41, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Done. ---''It's all here, black and white, clear as crystal. 02:48, December 31, 2011 (UTC)''

Hey, can you vote for yourself? ---''It's all here, black and white, clear as crystal. 16:26, January 1, 2012 (UTC)''

You Decide 2012
You Decide 2012!

Hello,, it's time to vote! If you already did, great, but here's some tips for everyone.

Tips

 * Don't vote for "abstentioners". PM Villanova has stated this in his outgoing campaign speech, and voting for them just makes everything worse. So don't do that. :P
 * Take your time and decide carefully. Voting closes at January 21, so why fret?
 *  I ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE A BUDDHIST  - No sectarian crap, swy. ;(

Respond here for anything about YD2012. -- 16:50, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I quit because I would rather make politics with adults even kids who can act like adults, Pikapi is just a kid acting like a kid, he cannot even talk in a well mannered state and insults whenever people challenge him. His friend Therider is the same, I have been more than generous and stated that I would leave should he continue with his antics. His pride got in the way as you may have seen.

The conflict over the Defence seat (which doens't even exist yet) told me enough about his character to realise that it would be better to have another year of Socialists and the Christian Party than deal with Pikapi and his gang of Therider and Granero. If you think that you can talk sense into him then feel free to try but I will not hand over the third most powerful seat in the nation to someone like that. 86.25.55.120 19:19, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Love you too!
Love you too! But you obviously need some glasses, my last block of an active user was in nov 2009, thereafter it were all spambots. Apoo banaan 18:35, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ofcourse I remember "The Master's Voice". I gave him an infinite block with a pretty good reason. In October 2011 he was destroying others work by changing names to names of dictators. That was not a "very old thing". Apoo banaan 18:40, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * You really need to be sure of things before you start shouting something.. Just take a look over here:


 * Iscool was blocked for doing several unrealistic things, I've warned him several times but then he declared a 3th world war in WikiStad so I blocked him for 1 day. Apoo banaan 18:45, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * And YgoD was blocked for 3 days after making several personal attacks and threats. Once again, not some "very old thing". All blocks were given on the same day of violation. Apoo banaan 18:48, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * The Master's Voice was a sockpuppet of a long-term structural vandal. Apoo banaan 18:49, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * I forgave him 20 thousand times. And there is a point that you have to stop forgive somebody. Apoo banaan 18:52, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't care, Apoo. Block me if you want to. Have a great 2012 buddy. The glorious First Consul of Rome 20:42, January 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * We can ban Apoo forever; such a pessimist and troll. -- 01:35, January 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't be ridiculous. --Semyon 13:38, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

I hadn't though much of those points yet. To be honest, If I was PM, I wouldn't really plan on delegating anyone else into the government. If you're worried about GoYou infiltrating the government, you have nothing to worry about. I feel the same way about multinationals and all organizations, for that matter. I also disagree with the concept of a "deputy"-PM. Imagine the instability that would cause, well, unless they would serve in a similar fashion to that of a vice-president. Why do you ask? News report? Also, I voted for you, and left it to and the others, if they felt as though they should cast a vote or two towards Lukas. I understand the terms pretty well, I'd say. --— Christopher Costello (Pikapi • Chat  • What's up ) 16:38, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah. As per the coalition, what do you mean, exactly? :P --— Christopher Costello (Pikapi • Chat  • What's up ) 17:31, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Timemaster, you should enter in the concurse of classic cars (I also did today), but if you don't like classic cars there is no problem. Granero 02:15, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

I like a lot classic cars, my grandfather has a 50's Chevrolet. Granero 02:18, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

FW
are you still active on future worlds? Kunarian 17:48, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

I check in from time to time, but not really. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:52, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Do try to come back and yes I am still working on the defence act, I'll be able to get a load done tomorrow, I'm just about to get into some deep work back in reality. Kunarian 17:54, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I just thought of something you might want to use for your Judicial act. Because this is a wiki, the basic American jury probably wouldn't do. People stick to their guns in an argument, and on a wiki, where you don't even speak face to face, a unanimous vote would almost never be achieved. Why not keep it where there are four jurors, but there must be a decisive 3/4 majority vote in a jury's conclusion? In cases where half of the jury (two individuals) can't agree with the other half, and the results are 2/2, the jury can be declared hung. Then another four can be drafted. In order to ensure the trial stays quick, the four random users have three days to decide wether they are hung or not. We can even have a reserved forum where a jury of four drafted users may come to a conclusion, and other non-participants aren't allowed to interfere. I know its an outlandish idea, but what do you think? --— Christopher Costello (Pikapi • Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 21:39, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

You have a good point. Your also catching up to me in the elections. And my plan to manipulate a legion of congress-puppets might not turn out as well as I had hoped. lol--— <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 22:06, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

I was reading the ministry thing. I'm offended. It's not my fault my best friend just happens to be the only person I know on Wikination. I went to Chris for advice. Timemaster, I am sorry I am on Chris' political party. I'm sorry I'm autistic and need Chris' help with some things. I'm sorry I'm not active. It's just, it's not fair that Hoffman's user(Can NEVER spell his name right) thinks I'm only here to help Chris gain political power.

Sorry if I bothered you. I just need to know I have some friends on here. ---''It's all here, black and white, clear as crystal. 20:47, January 4, 2012 (UTC)''

I would be glad to continue our co-operation into the coming year, I just feel that it would be better done out of a coalition where two out of the three leaders do not get on. If the seat of defence is created I would ask for it, because I feel that I am the best for the job, if Pikapi applied too he would never step down and neither would I. the immovable object meets the unstoppable force. Kunarian 21:07, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

I got on. What was the website for the chat that we were on? --Blessed Sword 11:35, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

It's this site. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 13:40, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

If an admin here enabled wiki chat, we could all chat while editing. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 15:41, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't like chat, didn't know there was a wiki chat and have no idea how to do so :P Y'know the problem with chat is that logs are most of the time not kept, so decisions/arguments etc. all get lost. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:17, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

You make a decision yet? You want to ask my opinion on anything, I'll have Future Worlds open. ---''It's all here, black and white, clear as crystal. 20:45, January 5, 2012 (UTC)''

No. He'd try and start fights with me all the time and restrict this and that. We don't have a friendly user relationship, you know that, and he'd us his position as an advantage of his. Lets stick to the plan, how about that? :P --— <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 00:14, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

May I ask what would be so extreme that you would do that I would restrict you on? Kunarian 00:17, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

You should both come on this chat so we can make a compromise. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 00:19, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

I want to be able to write about the Defense Force, with things like rank structure, divisions, etc. I also don't like the idea of Kunarian being my superior. --— <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 15:43, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Like I said, Make them with equal authority. That way, no one is the boss. ---''It's all here, black and white, clear as crystal. 16:59, January 6, 2012 (UTC)''

You know Therider if you spent less time insulting and more time thinking you would not be so frictional. Calling me simular to Walter no dick from ghostbusters is about as obvious an insult as it gets. Kunarian 17:14, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

stop
you don't control anything to deal with leftest parties. Stop. Like let's say I want to merge the LDP and the UNS, I don't have the right to do it even if I want to. Let's say you want to merge with the PL and CNP i can't stop you from doing it. It's your decision! Like the Green Party issue! IT'S MY DECISION!!! Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:31, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

You can have all your MOTCs in Labour but I can still use the Green Party as much as I want. You forfeited rights to the Green Party when you merged. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:32, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

That would be the case, If it hadn't MERGED!!! Again process the information given. Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:35, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

I have unmerged it and removed the merger from its history. Jackson Welsh is now just an ordinary MOTC from either SDP, WFP, or SPP that merged to me. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:38, January 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm glad your not a historian beacuse you'd change history dramatically. Troy wins the trojan war! The South Wins! Nazi World! I mean stop changing shit you just don't like. Accept it. Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:41, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * This is Lovia, not the real world, you can change what you want. If Pierlot had his way and prohibited changing history, Lovia would be a lot worse than it is today. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:44, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * If you take out what little actuallity is left in this it's done. Just give up and shut down the website. Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:46, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * That didn't make much sense. Why would I shut down the website? Lovia is awesome. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:48, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not when you change history to fit YOUR needs, it just becomes dumb Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:49, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * No, changing a couple things to keep the Green Party alive is fine, since it doesn't effect your MOTCs at all. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:50, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yup it does. Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:59, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * No it doesn't. Jackson Welsh is still Labour. I have allowed you to win on the Labour Party revision, now I win on the Green Party revision. I will not let it die. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:01, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Why do i feel you only like to see and read what you want to see and read. IT MERGED. GAME OVER. DONE. Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:06, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * I UNMERGED IT. GAME OVER. DONE. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:17, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * You really must be mentally challanged or just never grew up and is like a 8 year old in a grown ups body. I wonder IRL if your fired from a job and then you get fired, if you still keep going back to the place wondering why everyone says you don't work there. Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:23, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Lol, it's just insults now. You have evidently lost the argument. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:25, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Lol, you never denied it so I guess it's true. But honestly stop. Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:26, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I'll deny it now, then. I will not stop. You can have the MOTC that was Green in Labour but I will keep the Green Party alive with my own MOTC. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:27, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Dude in this entire argument i've been the one with the points, facts, and ways we can get out of this. If you keep being immature that's your fault. The final thing I can offer to you is that we move "Green Party" to "Green Party(2010)" and you create a new page or something. Also your argument for "the name being dumb" is dumb, Again accept history and create a new name. Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:31, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * That is a blatant lie. And I simply want to continue the current Green Party. Why don't you just let me? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:33, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Why can't you let it die and start a new one? Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:35, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Because the current one is a good Green Party in which there is no point in the death of it! —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:36, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

I really hate doing this...
Even though your acting really dumb here, here's a comprimise Deal. Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:40, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Green party stays alive
 * I still control it
 * It joins a coalition with the Labour Party, not merging tho.
 * You put one congressmen in the Green Party after the election.

I think you're acting more dumb, as you keep undoing and saying it merged even though I'm using it now. You can do whatever you want with your MOTCs. I just want you to stop undoing the edits on the Green Party page. Although, this works as well. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:44, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Fine it is agreed. I'll keep the Green Party alive and such. Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:46, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, is Jackson Welsh going to be a member? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:47, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Everything is reverted, I still control the party, jackson welsh rules, Henri can join if he wants, but sticking with history Jackson founded the party. Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:49, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Another coalition
Why don't you join our coalition? Our coalition is better suited for your party. The party you currently work with is a bit too different from your party it seems... Pierlot McCrooke 14:09, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

I don't know yet. Maybe I will. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:10, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I hope so Pierlot McCrooke 14:39, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

This time no
I can maybe see your anger with the Green Party but the ProCons is my party. You can't do anything about it. Dae-su participates in a civil war, which should lead to being kicked out. Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:05, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I do understand Marcus his move. Being a war leader isn't a good face for the political party. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:09, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * But forcing him out of a party that you have one MOTC in is not a solution. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:11, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter anyway. In a week we will have a motc. So him not being in the party just helps the PCP. Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:12, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * While I understand that Marcus wants to retain ownership of a party he created, it does seem rather harsh, when you do almost nothing with it, to object that someone else does. If that makes sense. --Semyon 20:01, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I have done plenty of things to it! Here's a story: Marcus doesn't own it. He made the original version that was a copy of the UK conservatives. He and I both reformed into the PCP, and I was the catalyst for that. He gave one MOTC to it. However, Kim Dae-su joined the party, and gave all seven or six of his MOTCs to the PCP. Kim controls 6/7 or 7/8 of the party. Does that mean Marcus is the owner? I said NO. It is not in his power to kick people out of a power he CO-CREATED with me, and is controlled by proportion by Kim Dae-su. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:30, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * By 'you' I meant Marcus, sorry. :P --Semyon 15:37, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Lies
The lies weren't in mine were they? if you felt you spotted any do tell, I'd like to be remembered for being honest at least. Kunarian 21:16, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Two were in Wabba's, but I don't want say who's the third was in. It wasn't you, though. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:09, January 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank god. :P 82.14.58.78 22:52, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

@Lord Underpants
I am not him. CheckUser me, but I am not him. I swear, and I am not Magnus. If for some reason I am him (which I am not) ban me. I don't mind. Seriously. :) -- 22:43, January 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's not Jeff, this guy is totally different from Jeff. 82.14.58.78 22:52, January 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Imagine its one of his siblings using the same computer. XD --— <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 23:23, January 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * I thought it was Jeff because he said he was bored and wanted more votes so for fun he made a new account to use for a day of vandalism for fun. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:36, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * WTF I have things to do, I'm not that bored. -- 23:38, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * But you are getting bored of Wikination, not life. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:38, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * I was at a public educational facility the whole time this occurred. -- 01:23, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, back from Gundam Fanon and my story writing. What did I miss? ---''It's all here, black and white, clear as crystal. 02:37, January 17, 2012 (UTC)''
 * Not much. We've been pretty inactive, most edits have been general cleanup edits or some new articles by Wabba. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 11:54, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

LDP
Once I can, I will vote for you. Also, how should I improve the party? Daembrales 20:06, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Okay! I'm not that good with art, but I'll add the infobox and do other things. Daembrales 21:23, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Great! —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:28, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I added the infobox. I now have over 50 edits. Daembrales 21:37, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Good, this means that by tomorrow you should be able to vote. Congrats! —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:42, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

I've been spending a bit more time on Tesfanon, as a newly-appointed administrator. Don't worry though, I'll still be active on here. Did I miss out on anything? — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 23:49, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Thats cool. I'll see what stuff I can get done on here in the meantime... — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 15:00, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

NCO? — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 15:02, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

I asked a stupid question. I searched it and just figured that out. XD — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 15:08, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

It's life
They can't help. They are probably using the rich-text editor which fucks up pages. It's damn irritating, so I ran my bot recently to fix some of these mistakes, but it doesn't fix substituted infoboxes and external links :( --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:41, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

=( indeed... I tried the rich text editor recently, it even uses a weird font in the editing screen. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:43, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

I don't know what the improvement is of the new skin and rich-text editor... I'm glad to find someone with the same obsession as me though :P Wrong external links can be found at this page. Feel free to fix them ;) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:48, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Something new?
I see your conversation on Villanova's page, and I'd like to ask, why not something new? we already had a practically only left government for I don't know how long, why not have some balance? Plus you want a popular Prime Minister, and you and Oos are above Villanova. Theres also the fact that Oos in my opinion is a fairer person on the whole. He won't be particularly hard on the left like Villianova has been. Its an idea.

A Conservative-Libertarian Coalition? Kunarian 17:04, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. Oos would make a fine Coalition leader. Maybe we could have every party except the UNS and RTP in government? =D —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:27, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

I'd be happy to have that, I'll notify Oos. I'm sure he'd understand where you are coming from with those two points. Kunarian 17:30, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Which two points? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:31, January 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * UNS and RTP Kunarian 17:37, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

I agree actually; when politicians from across the spectrum have posts in the Cabinet the idea of a there being a 'coalition' and an 'opposition' seems weird. Politics should be more about consensus anyway. --Semyon 17:33, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

I noticed that too. There has never been a formal opposition, though. Just a coalition. I prefer unanimity myself, except for extremism, as in RTP (god becomes head of state? sodomy punishable by death?), or UNS. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:36, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

@semyon - Like Northern Ireland's assembly? Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:38, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that's a good analogy actually. Tho' of course not because of sectarian conflict, but because this wiki is purely for entertainment and it seems harsh to exclude people. Obviously real politicians aren't always trying to be nice to each other. :P --Semyon 18:21, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Right, lol. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 19:16, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Supreme Court
Yes? No? Do you want to be the next Supreme Court Justice? Vote here now! -- 15:21, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

If you would like to discuss anything, stop by on your chat. --— <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 23:06, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Just want to check something
I thought you were the person most likely to know... there are only 99 congressmen/congresswomen, right? I've counted twice, but just want to make sure. --Semyon 17:06, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

32-32
So far the settlement Act add-on would technically pass, it has 50%. So just as a point, i would try to give some feeback on the new bill I proposed and try to work, it will prob pass though. Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:29, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Note
If you move pages, please update their contents. Especially the in-text title. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:05, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * His axises to avenues change was done without consensus Pierlot McCrooke 16:05, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Doesn't matter, axises do not change names every three blocks in real life. I had to make it more realistic. What kind of a name is Factory Avenue? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:07, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * But Lovia is not RL. Maybe in lovia that is part of the culture? Pierlot McCrooke 16:08, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Weird culture if you ask me. :P —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:09, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

I'll get around to it... eventually. :D I've gotten four avenues done. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:07, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * You've gotten or you've got? :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:08, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * gotten. -en is the past participle ending. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:08, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Using 'get' that way is quite American, I'd personally say 'I've done/finished four avenues'. I'd also never use gotten, even though it is admittedly correct to do so, and used in the King James Version. --Semyon 16:10, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hahaha, Americans.. Always messing up "to get" with "to forget" :P Indeed, "done" :P Think we need a Forum:Grammar too :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:11, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Good idea! :D —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:15, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Forum:Interpunction, Forum:Pronunciation, ... Any other ideas? :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:17, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * (two edit conflicts) No, gotten is actually perfectly correct, but simply has fallen out of use in Britain. Four hundred years ago, we were perfectly happy using it: see . --Semyon 16:17, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've also proposed using "haven" instead of "had" as a past participle. I'm fairly passionate about the -en ending. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:19, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * @Semyon: I know, but Americans just have to move on. We're no longer living in the renaissance :P @TM: That's not etymologically correct. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:20, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * I quite like Forum:Alphabet. We could try and see how many letters we could remove. No one really needs x (sacksophone) or v (bhiolin) or q (cween). --Semyon 16:23, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Adopt Limburgish spelling for English and your problem is solved :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:24, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * No, we need v. But agreed, x and q are stupid. We don't need c either, just use k or s. Either that, or get rid of F and V. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:25, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Forum:Nasalization? Pierlot McCrooke 16:24, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd go for Forum:Pharyngealised_geminated_palatalisation myself. --Semyon 16:26, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * I suggest Forum:Proverb Pierlot McCrooke 16:27, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * I suggest Forum:Forums for discussing more forums :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:28, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Archive
Please archive a part of your talk page. It's a hell editing it using a laptop after an edit conflict :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:21, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Look at Marcus's. 120 or so... —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:22, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Then he should archive as well :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:23, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Just had the identical problem. --Semyon 16:24, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

I see that ambox no longer malfunctions, so congratulations :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:05, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Attack Ad
Yeah, sounds good! I'll have a look around and see what kind of things we can dig into. We don't want to be making rash statements do we, give me a minute or ten to get working. Kunarian 17:00, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

I'm stuck between a variety of wiki projects now, but I'll be active again soon, hopefully. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 02:18, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

image
Hi. I am so sorry about that -- that image should not have been deleted. I've restored it for you. I honestly do not remember even seeing the image when I was reviewing, and must have hit the "delete" button by accident. Thanks for asking about it so I could fix the error! -- <font color="Blue">Wendy (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 01:02, April 13, 2012 (UTC)

Hey
Hey, I made up a list for the featured articles in Brunant, its on the blog thingy. I also proposed King Ambroos I since i've been working on the page and its vastly improved. HORTON11 : •  14:30, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Cool, I 'll check it out soon. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:51, April 16, 2012 (UTC)

Libertarian Spring
I think that the two leading active parties that have libertarian ideologies, the LDP and the CNP, should lead the way in the current climate of Lovian events where things seem to have come to a standstill, we don't have taxes implemented, we haven't worked too far on achieving some of our main goals and we need to boost activity. I think that if we did some work and prepared some legislation we could really show where the true game changer politicians are. I think we need to first aim at getting a tax law written and implemented and after that we can look into re-organising the police and getting the benefits system into action, I have completed the party plan, if you want to see some of my ideas look there. Kunarian 18:35, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, this sounds great. I'll work on the law when I'm feeling more productive, as I'm in a lazy mood right now. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:34, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to relax now for tonight, I'll start tomorrow, glad you like the idea, I also got an attack ad on Labour up on the speakers corner. I'm trying to revive the politics so its more of a whirlwind instead of a breeze. Kunarian 20:43, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah. The only unfortunate thing with making politics a whirlwind is that grand coalitions (nearly every party being in the coalitions) will go extinct, and active people will be left out of government. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:48, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Ah but you know Lovian politics the parties are much more based on principal. Besides if things get really started up, we can form a shadow cabinet that also does similar government work. Kunarian 20:54, April 28, 2012 (UTC)

Archive
Perhaps you could archive your talk page to reduce internet load? :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 11:20, June 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Buy more RAM (this message was sponsored by the RAM manifactures) Pierlot McCrooke 12:31, June 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll consider it. But presently, I don't want to. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:03, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

Census in Kings
Hey, could you perhaps create a page along the lines of this one or this one for Kings? We also need at least a sketch of districts. If you like I'll do it, but I assume you'll want to do it yourself. --Semyon 08:46, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll get around to it. Right now, there is a lot of discussion on Lovia, but to me, nothing seems worth discussing. Most of the activity seems to be OWTB and Dimi joking about photos, with other users also talking at times. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 10:57, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's the way Lovia has survived for many a year ;). DimiTalen 11:01, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Well, if the census things are done and we vote on implementing it, there is something worth discussing :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 11:04, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm working on it. My last day of school is today, so I should be able to get it done. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 11:13, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * You wanted Dimitri to come back, and now you're complaining? :P btw: do the political compass test. --Semyon 11:14, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * My presence has always worked polarizing ^^. DimiTalen 11:27, June 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I still want Dimitri to come back, but he seems to do more chatting and laughing about stuff than anything else. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 19:34, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Semyon, can you do the census? I've not been in a Wikination mood for the last couple weeks. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 00:49, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Jeff
Hey, do you know why Jeff was blocked? — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello  (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 15:57, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

No, I don't. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 00:48, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Well okay then. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello  (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 00:59, June 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Kinda sucks, he was a pretty awesome dude. Was he blocked from here or some place else? The glorious First Consul of Rome 04:40, June 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * He is banned cross-wiki Pierlot McCrooke 05:30, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

I thought that we agreed that pages like that needed to have Lovia in the title or else it seems to general. Plus, part of the reform was to have the page moved to Lovian Federal Police, even if just in name. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello  (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 19:02, August 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * No, that was only for the most generic of words, like Liberal or Leftist or Political parties. For specific organizations within the country, there should not be a Lovia in the title. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:00, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

I'm Back!
So, what did I miss? ---''It's all here, black and white, clear as crystal. 21:36, August 23, 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm... not much, except the planning of the IWO Games. You also need to vote in Congress. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:03, August 23, 2012 (UTC)

State Elections
When are they happening? and do you want to co-ordinate together for the coming state elections and general elections? I was just wondering seeming as our parties seem to cross over on many points, most prominantly our perspective on freedoms and therefore it would make sense to work together in the coming campaigns. Kunarian (talk) 14:05, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

I think that the nominations are starting in mid-September. You can check the Constitution for more certain dates. And we should definitely cooperate. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:44, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

Right then, I think I'll start campaigning in early September. I have. Glad that you agree, at the moment I'm pushing these reforms through however any ideas you can give atm I'll take a look at. By the way are you aiming for Kings again? Kunarian (talk) 15:05, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

I have not found any use for being the Governor of Kings, and I didn't do the census, so I have decided that there is no reason for me to be in the position. Therefore, I will not be running for re-election. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:21, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

You haven't 'failed,' you know. :P People would very likely be willing to vote for you again. That said, if you have absolutely no interest in writing articles about Kings, doing governor-stuff basically, you're probably right not to stand again. --Semyon 18:19, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

I don't have no interest. In fact, I have a lot of interest. I just never get around to doing anything. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 13:35, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

Ok. It's your decision, I guess. Still, it's quite likely no-one better will turn up. --Semyon 14:26, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

I dont want this to happen, lets vote on it in the second chamber; discussion in the first chamber. Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:49, August 28, 2012 (UTC)

On what? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:51, August 28, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I haven't replied in a while, btw if you aren't interested in Kings or don't have enough time I understand, but it'd be good if you could still have a homebase for the Liberal Democrats as well as people of those ideologies, besides you don't need to do huge things there to be a good Governer, you just need to be able to direct the state properly both culturally as well as in an economic and social capacity. Kunarian (talk) 23:02, August 28, 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. And I never do that, so I don't think being Governor is right for me. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 00:01, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Well it's your choice, I'm mainly happy to see that the CNP and LDP relationship has survived to the beginning of the next elections. :) Kunarian (talk) 00:08, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

Help.
I need your support in the first chamber, it's my latest package of literal "state reform" by changing the way state elections are held. Hopefully we get some change. And hopefully i can get your fully support. Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:15, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

Speech Reform
Hey man, would you say the speech reform is done, because I don't know how long it takes to pass these things, but it seems like everyone's long over voting now. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello  (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 18:57, September 28, 2012 (UTC)

If you would like to withdraw it from voting, simply add to the bottom of the vote. I don't think it will be passed at this point. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:22, September 28, 2012 (UTC)

Of course I don't want to withdraw it. What do you mean you don't think it will be passed? It has far more votes for it than against it. Shouldn't it already have been passed? — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello  (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 20:57, September 28, 2012 (UTC)

You don't? Inactive people + people voting contra or abstain = more than 33 votes. You need 67 votes to pass a constitutional amendment. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:31, September 28, 2012 (UTC)

I didn't even know. I'll just leave it the way it is and re-propose or go back to it eventually. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello  (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 00:15, September 29, 2012 (UTC)

Why'd you vote for the CNP?? I thought you would have voted Labour or even for Topaz. HORTON11 : •  16:44, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Because I like Kunarian and we are in a coalition agreement. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 18:29, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Didn't he just make some sort of coalition agreement with Wabba? HORTON11 : •  19:48, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Looks to me like he's just trying to get Wabba to vote for him--no coalition. :3 —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 19:52, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Simply ensuring I have good ties with CCPL, after all they are the closest party outside of the Libertarian Coalition Kunarian (talk) 20:10, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. Personally I do not like the CCPL, so I will not be ensuring good ties with them. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:54, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Same here (I don't really like the CCPL). I do want good ties with the LDP and CNP, but, unfortunately, they have no candidates for Seven, the only state apart from Sylvania where I have residence (and I'm running in Sylvania). 77topaz (talk) 00:04, October 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well you two and I seem to be at odds on the CCPL. And I'm glad to here that you want good ties with our Libertarian parties, maybe next time when we perhaps take different states we can properly support each other. Kunarian (talk) 16:22, October 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll be running in the Federal elections as well, with the NGP. 77topaz (talk) 03:20, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

I feel a cordon sanitaire against CCPL :'( --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:23, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

No, just a general dislike of social conservatism. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 10:54, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Which "social conservatism" do you mean? "ethic conservatism" or social conservatism as in anti-socialist? --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:58, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

The type supporting enforced morality and traditional family values, so I guess that means "ethic conservatism", though I'm not entirely sure. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:53, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Ah alright, in that case I see, but of course don't understand, why you might have a dislike for CCPL :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 03:15, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

A message from Joshua Katz
Dear Mr Krosby,

You will no doubt be delighted to learn that the senior leadership of the Porcine Party is seriously considering endorsing you in your compaign to be reelected as governor of Kings, due to a feeling that you have some sympathy towards our aims and have defended us on occasion from political attacks. As you are aware, we wield significant power in this election through our control of the porcine vote - of course not actual porcines, but those humans that sympathise with the cause. We achieved enough in the popular vote to secure a seat in Congress last year, and in Kings we believe our influence is even stronger, due to the progressive majority which is willing to challenge the pigoted social norms of our generation. Added to this, the charisma of His Imperial Highness Frederick I, as well as my own no mean oratory skills (though I fear the Zimmer frame does detract slightly from my air of confidence and self-assurance) make this an opportunity which I am sure you will agree no politician would turn down.

Naturally it would be a pleasure to give our endorsement freely with no thought of return, but in this barren political era, every political movement has to look out for its own survival. We therefore request a small favour in return for our support, which I am sure will be far outweighed by the benefits Porcine endorsement will provide. We would like a promise from you to rename the town of Portland to Porkland.

In case you require any further convincing, we are able to provide further arguments, guaranteed to convince even a non-porcine politician. Linguistically, the letter 't' is likely to be replaced by a glottal stop, or even elided altogether. Firstly, therefore, the proposed alternative would be more likely to be enunciated correctly. Secondly, Porkland is a unique name, while Portland is overwhelmingly common, and would help to distuingish the town, attracting investment and boosting the economy. Thirdly, such a move would attract media attention to the town and your governorship, which I think you will agree has in the past been somewhat understated.

I look forward to your positive reply. After all, it is a single letter of the alphabet against potential thousands of votes. I know you will make the right decision.

Yours sincerely,

Joshua Katz, servant to and on behalf of His Imperial Highness Frederick I, Emporor of Lovia, High King of the Pacific Isles, Duke of Oceana, etc, etc.

New Sylvanian Flag
Almost the same message I posted to Oos and Semyon. It'd be nice to know what you think, as you own one of the few houses I believe not to be in Noble City, just check it out in the pub, I'd like to have the flag decided sooner rather than later. thanks :) Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 12:25, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

SE Oceana
- I'm still longing for a "because" here :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:14, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

Well, Marcus wrote that they endorsed you for these elections. I'll add that. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 12:30, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:32, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

Social Liberal Party
Would you perhaps consider simply merging the LAP into the LDP rather than creating a whole new party? :) You already have a nice logo and page, and and to be honest I'm a bit fed up with all the political merges and demerges and renames that've happened every few months since the start of 2010. --Semyon 14:14, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

I did consider that. But after deliberation I decided that the name "Liberal Democratic Party" simply does not fit the ideology of the party's views. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:58, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Really? That surprises me a bit. Obviously I'm not going to force you to keep the old name, but it seems to me that the party is liberal (more specifically modern or social liberal) and definitely democratic. --Semyon 16:17, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Well, you could say the same thing about Labour (that it's modern liberal). I just think that the new name is better and a merger is a perfect opportunity to change. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:53, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, TM, you're an admin here, aren't you? 77topaz (talk) 23:09, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, in fact, one of the bureaucrats. I don't go on much anymore, though. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:14, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

There's currently kind of a political crisis, and only one of our admins is active. 77topaz (talk) 23:22, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Hey Timemaster, I was interested in joining the Lovian project, and wanted to start a company. What information do I need to know? ((ლ( (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ( 03:22, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the info man. ((ლ( (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ( 18:34, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

Hey TimeMaster, could I develop a hamlet around my residence? Since there are no major Muslim leaders or towns, I wanted to sponser the establishment of a Muslim community in Lovia. ((ლ( (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ( 20:07, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. ((ლ( (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ( 21:45, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

TimeMaster, what are some ways I can connent Rakham to Lovia? ((ლ( (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ( 22:59, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

Gotcha. ((ლ( (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ( 23:26, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

How do I purchase I property? Do I just leave a message on the house I want? Or do I just say its mine? ((ლ( (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ( 23:32, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

@77topaz: two of our admins ;) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:57, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

@Oos: He's talking about conworlds, where United Planets is the only remaining admin (though Woogers seems to be active as well, so I guess you're right, but not in the way you intended). —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:19, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, you meant me. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:06, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

@TM: Ow :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:29, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, TM, could I set up a Muslim township on Kings? ((ლ( (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ( 03:12, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

Time I want to keep the local police headquarters there. And I'm keeping it in a complex for three reasons: 1. Less work, and I will be putting work into these 2. saving space in Noble City 3. Defence and Justice work close due to the police and prosecution system. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 03:14, October 27, 2012 (UTC)

Dear Mr Krosby
Hello, I am Dave Leskromento, from the Conservative Nationalist Party and am requesting this request on behalf of LIHA.

I would like a big lot for an ice hockey arena, where LIHA can host the Grand Match every year, and use it for drafts including lending it to the upcoming Newhaven Vikings franchise being made by George Underhill (George the Greek).

Your sincerely, Dave Leskromento

Sure! But how big is "a big lot"? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 12:59, October 27, 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm, Is half the size of Grand Bayside Bowl okay. This will for sure benefit the tourism in this new settlements, and we can have the big street parties every final match :P, if you want. Happy65

Since the Grand Bayside Bowl is only half a block, I'll make the LIHA stadium that size too. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 13:12, October 27, 2012 (UTC)

The size of the Grand Bayside Bowl in Bayside, Noble City would be excelent. Thank you sir. Happy65

Okay. It'll either be in East River or Pines. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 13:48, October 27, 2012 (UTC)

Okay. Either will be excelent. Just going to get editing now. Happy65

By the way, Happy, can you start signing your comments with ~ instead of ? The fourth tilde adds a timestamp, which is useful. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 13:53, October 27, 2012 (UTC)

I will do. I used to do, I just preferred it without the timestamp. With my new signature, it suits it better with a timestamp though. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP 14:05, October 27, 2012 (UTC)

Your sig never closes the second bolding, so it makes everything following your sig bold. You'll want to fix that. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:06, October 27, 2012 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks for noticing. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   14:08, October 27, 2012 (UTC)

It looks like the Vikings have pulled out. Well, that doesn't give a home advantage to them in the final match. I would still like to request a lot, and there will be lots more teams being made in the near future. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  07:29, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

False


Chris, why? --Semyon 22:52, October 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Its an inside joke. — Beer.png <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 23:09, October 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I saw that already. --Semyon 08:34, October 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * :P <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  LogoCNP.png 08:59, October 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * You politicians have no sense of humor. I, frankly, don't know what you'd all do without me. :P — Beer.png <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 16:57, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

2013 Federal Elections
Hey man, just wanted to know if you planned on running in the upcoming elections. If not, I've recently been having thoughts of running and I'd like for us to keep our alliance strong either way. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello  (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 20:26, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I will run in the 2013 Federal Elections. I don't see why anyone wouldn't, to be honest. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:05, October 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Me neither. So its cool if I run to? — Beer.png <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 22:09, October 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Of course it is. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:12, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Before confusion leads to problems. Time he means running for Prime Minister. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 22:14, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * You can't run for prime minister anymore. It's now simply an appointed part of a government. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:15, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * No he means you know proposing himself to be Prime Minister. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 22:23, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Where did he talk about becoming Prime Minister? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:24, October 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh... you know, in retrospect, I probably could have made that a little clearer. What do you think? — Beer.png <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 22:42, October 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:43, October 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * If you want to run I'd be fine with waiting until next term. I'm not going into it without your support. — Beer.png <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 12:24, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

You're overthinking it. The PM of a government that Congress approves will become PM. There's no running involved, besides maybe some opinion polls. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:52, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

User:Crystalbeastdeck09/2013 Election
Please fill the form (per se) to let the voters know of the positions of the SLP and any other parties your bringing into the 2013 congress :D Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:43, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Yup. Just waiting for a place to put my mosque at, and handling business on other wikis in the mean time. Truth fears no questions... 00:39, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Ah, thanks TM. Truth fears no questions... 02:14, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

No problem. Truth fears no questions... 02:17, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Notice
To William Krosby

We are currently looking for a better name for the CNP-PL-SLP-GP coalition and we would like to ask you to see if you have a name. If you do have a name, go to section 6 of the Forum:Political Coalitions and leave your name idea.

Dave Leskromento Coalition Messenger

Okay. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:38, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

No war
I've said this before and you should seriously understand, I control my congresspeople and characters. You do not. You can have the ARP, no liz west. It would not make sense. "Liz west was elected from the ARP but in an event totally making no sense she left and Jackson Welsh was brought in from the GAPP." So again you do control your stuff, I control mine. Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:02, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, then I won't bother with ARP. There's no reason to have a tiny party survive with its leader leaving to join another party. I'd REALLY prefer you undo EVERYTHING related to the GAPP because it is extremely unrealistic, though. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:38, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

To make it clear, you can put ARP into GAPP (or PLEASE just DISSOLVE and UNDO GAPP) but I'd prefer the change to be retroactive. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:39, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

Seconded. 77topaz (talk) 23:43, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

And Marcus, since I'm opposed to GAPP, I will not be helping with undoing my edits to ARP. Sorry. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:44, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

LIHA Arena
Where will the lot for the LIHA Arena be? I'm just wondering. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  18:26, November 10, 2012 (UTC)

It will be at 9 Newhaven Avenue in East River. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:00, November 10, 2012 (UTC)

Not the model
The model we have (you can read the founder, Kingdimi's blog) allows users to control certain aspects, in there part, in the wiki. Whereas, there is another model, (like in new continent wikia) were members control one country and all aspects in it. We have the first model and I would ask you to stop. You are being a control freak, which would be okay in the second model for each country, but GAPP is under my control so you have no right. Stop what you are doing. Marcus/Michael Villanova 16:54, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

No agreement has come on the situation of GAPP yet. Consensus is that it is a bad idea (or at least that it has a bad name), but not whether we should remove it or not. You are being rather ridiculous about the model, as in New Continent wiki there are multiple nations. There is one nation here, so it's a completely different model irreconcilable with the second model you are talking about. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:58, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

SMH!!! EXACTLY!!! In that wiki you control everything, in this one you don't. SO WHY DO YOU, TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME, keep thinking you control every aspect. Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:07, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

I only control some aspects. My idea is that the users of the wiki should be able to remove something if they believe it to be unrealistic or any type of "not good". Consensus is that GAPP is not good. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:10, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

Give up
I won't take the dumb reverting. Just revert every single page (most likely about 20 pages, Including political pages, character pages and old political pages and updating the political parties in lovia page) and give me back the ARP. This is the deal you have. Revert all power back to be or not. Again the wiki community model we have does not allow you to control everything in your eyes and lead a group of people against it, but again go ahead. Also relations are very strained don't expect support. Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:14, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

You mean you want me to undo everything related to GAPP? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 18:00, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

How about a change in it though now that i think of it to a socialist-environmentalist party? And a name and logo change? Marcus/Michael Villanova 18:04, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

I would prefer a joining into the Green Party for HEMPPAC, keeping ARP, and removing RENT, but I would consider a name and logo change. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 18:08, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

But see this is were you annoy me, you can't control the pieces like this, the way you want everything in your way it will never happen. I'm at this point going to request just a block to my pages so no one can edit them. Im just taking it off the table forget it. Even though I KNOW you won't stop. Marcus/Michael Villanova 18:14, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

Lol, I don't edit them (except when I've misunderstood something or I made the page/major edit, like on the list of parties), I just protest heavily and advocate a change. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 18:26, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

Requesting a lock is kind of controlling... and consensus is to remove the GAPP. And there's multiple parties involved. Anyone up for a status quo ante bellum? :P 77topaz (talk) 19:35, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

Shouldn't the ARP and GAPP and RENT be completely separate? I don't see their relation... Also, I don't understand the difference between the GAPP and Green Party. Could somebody explain? --Quarantine Zone (talk) 22:17, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

SLP Platform
Hi TM, i made a page on the SLP platform for you to make. :) Link: Social Liberal Party/Platform Daembrales (talk) 19:00, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, thanks! I'll work on it soon. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 19:33, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry
Hey Time just wanted you to know that I'm sorry about how we've been getting into so many arguments recently. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 20:33, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

It's okay. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:19, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

Time, please put the economic strengths and weaknesses of Kings on the lovian economy talk page, we need to get this done asap. Also remember that you have Ecompany in kings so for sector C that's an instant +2 for you. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 20:23, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Done
I think it was unnecessary. No need to revert it, but I just want to note for the next time. On Wikination, we are never gonna get a page for the standard meaning of "done" (why should we?), so it could just stay on "Done". --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:12, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Same reason that we moved "7" and "The". They are just too common in English. You wouldn't want an article about a place called the Oos, would you? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:17, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Wouldn't have a problem with it though, but indeed, our jurisdiction might be moving them. As I said, I ain't gonna revert them, but I felt "Done", which rhymes on "alone" and not "fun", to be a different case as the pronunciation differs. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:45, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

To avoid any confusion, you could name the page "Done river" (sans les brackets) and in the lead article write: The Done river (in Oceana: Done) etc. bla bla ... HORTON11 : •  15:58, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I think the current situation is okay, but not necessary, that's all :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:00, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Railways
Do you think that we could close down one of the stations in Newhaven? I've been working on the expansion of the GIR, and though it has three stations already, that will leave the Pines Station without service. As the governor I felt I should consut you. HORTON11 : •  15:49, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

That would be fine. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:36, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

This is the way it should be done! progress! Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 22:41, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, i put my candidacy up on the federal elections page. :D Daembrales (talk) 00:53, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Great! I hope to see you in Congress. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 00:59, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

What's this nonsense? :O --Semyon 12:21, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

Krosby goes to a specialist shop in Beaverwick. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:36, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

Btw, I didn't pick the picture so much for the hair (in fact, I have quite long hair IRL, going to 25-30 cm until I donated it. Back to about 15 now), but rather the ethnicity (I really liked the face) and outfit. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:39, December 20, 2012 (UTC)

Gee, Time
If it is true that the SLP is, indeed, center-left, why don't you actually change the contents of the SLP article and be a little more upfront about your party leaning a little to the left? :L — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 23:54, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

Because I still can't decide whether it's retroactive or not and if it really has become centre-left. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 00:06, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm. After deliberation, I have decided that is good currently. I think we don't actually lean to the left that much, and as it is already noted that the party includes elements of leftism, it should be fine. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 01:18, December 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * So if social liberalism, social progressivism, and cultural liberalism are your primary concerns, you'd think that you'd classify as center-left. Not to mention that although your party-platform sats that your economic views are centrist, you don't show support for any economically conservative views. All I'm trying to prove is that neither of us are perfectly centrist. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 14:36, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Economic leftism is not related to social progressivism. Also, SLP in Denmark and D66 in the Netherlands are both centre, and I want to be similar to those two parties. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:38, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * D66's moving to the right though. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:47, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I hope they stick with social liberalism. There's VVD for rightists è. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:25, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Currently, nobody knows what VVD and PvdA (=Labour) are, because they are the worst coalition ever. I never thought I was gonna say this, but the Wilders coalition was better... I now have to hope to have enough money to finish university... --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:54, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't that be a grand coalition, then (two opposing parties working together)? Also, I really think more countries should try our system of having 90% of MOTCs be in the government coalition. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:11, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Most countries parties put the parties first and the country second, to have 90% in government being in coalition would require for parties to look to the needs to the needs of the country before their own wants and that rarely happens, Lovia is a special nation indeed in this matter. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 16:16, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * @TM: It should be, but it isn't... All our pensions and study finances have been sent to Greece and the poor :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:59, December 23, 2012 (UTC)

Chat meh
Hey man, can you join the chat for a minute when you get the chance? — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 20:50, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Merge
Do you want to do the merge with Labour Party? What do you think? Granero (talk) 03:18, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

I don't want to. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 11:57, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

lol i wasnt offering that but a left coalition is always available even just on economics with the CCPL as well. Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:16, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Gay equality
Hello! Namaste! Greetings!

My name is Elk Punarbhava and I am a member of the new social movement, Reboot, to which you are very much invited to join. We would be happy to have a new, people and nature loving member in our midst!

I want to introduce a bill in the 1st Chamber on same-sex marriage and gay equality. Before I write it, I am looking for a broad coalition of partners that will support it. I would like to make sure that all the rights that mixed-sex couples enjoy by law and in society, are also granted to homosexual couples. I am also adamant about defending the rights of these people and fighting all forms of discrimination. If possible, I will include this in the bill.

Can I count on you and the party you represent to stand by my side in this battle? Lovia needs change in the right direction. Making sure nobody is discriminated on the basis of sexual preference, or who he or she loves, is the first thing on my list, and hope it's on yours too. Let me know if I can count on you.

Thank you so very much, Punarbhava (talk) 13:49, February 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Same-sex marriage is completely legal and gays are considered equal under the law as they are not mentioned. However, there is not an anti-discrimination law, so I advise you to focus on that. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:19, February 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * I will! Thank you for your candid advice! Punarbhava (talk) 07:52, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

hmmmmmm
chat please. You know da link, right? <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  18:30, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

Chat
Just in case you're interested, there are currently some people on the Brunant chat. :) --Semyon 19:25, April 11, 2013 (UTC)

Come Chat
I'd love to explain this better with a live conversation, come talk. ---Sunkist- (talk) 02:25, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, darn, I just missed this. Do you have time later today? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 10:56, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

Yep! Come talk whenever. -Sunkist- (talk) 19:04, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

I'm still willing to talk if you have the time. -Sunkist- (talk) 00:57, May 24, 2013 (UTC)

Train Village Local Elections
Local elections are currently ongoing in the Train Village Area and everyone is encouraged to take part either as a voter or as a candidate for the Train Village Town Council! This small information pack should get you ready to participate and contribute to the event!

What's up for grabs?
 * All 10 seats of the Train Village Town Council are up for election

When and how do I stand for election?
 * Today is the 29th of May, the last day on which you can stand as a candidate for election, so act now!
 * Go here and put up your candidacy in the correct style however to stand for election you MUST have been a resident of Sylvania for at least two months prior to today

When and how do I vote?
 * Voting will begin tomorrow on the 30th of May and will end on the 6th of June
 * As long as you are at least a citizen you can vote however the amount of votes you have depend on your official residence
 * If you have an official house within the Train Village Area and resided there for at least two months prior to today then you are eligible to vote with a major vote, a minor vote as well as a support vote
 * If you have an official house within Sylvania and resided there for at least two months prior to today then you are eligible to vote with a minor vote as well as a support vote
 * If you are a Lovian citizen then you are eligible to vote with a support vote
 * Go here to vote but REMEMBER you can only vote for any candidate or party once, if you are confused however simply cast your votes and we will be at hand to help smooth out any problems

What will the council do once it's elected?
 * It will decide how spending is to be done in the Train Village Area
 * It will vote on how Train Village should develop as a settlement
 * It will advise the Governor on action to take in the Train Village Area

Extra Info
 * For more help concerning this issue contact Lukas Hoffmann, the Governor of Sylvania
 * Currently the CNP are standing one candidate, the GP is standing one candidate and the LP is standing two candidates
 * The CNP has already put up an ad, see it here
 * The LP has already put up an ad, see it here

Thank you!
Thanks for voting for me! I really appreciate it Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 06:12, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Reinvigoration ConWorlds
Hey TM, MC, Enclave and I have come up with a new world call Magna Somnium. Its a world were you create the nation you would personally like to lead based on your own preferernces. Check it out if you get the chance. Pass the word on to Topaz if you can too. He might like to join. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 05:33, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Time there's a poll in the Pub, it's about the rule I put in place to stop people voting just within their party. Marcus has taken offence with it, claiming it's an affront to democracy (you've seen this all already), when at worst it stops him and frijole from just exchanging their votes and sitting on that. I'd hope you'd agree with me on this one but just making you aware of this. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 19:49, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Understand also it stops you too. You have other party members as well. I hope as a liberal you understand the freedom of choice and democracy occuring without regulation to stop people. You already know the arguments, but please vote no. Marcus/Michael Villanova 19:56, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Understand this is only happening on a local level at the moment. You know the arguments as Marcus said, to be honest this is getting quite extensive. Please vote to agree. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 20:20, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

We didnt exchange votes in TV because I used by minor vote to vote Labour and my support vote to vote for the Green Party Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 20:14, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * This shows that the system isn't affecting your votes one bit and therefore isn't stopping any democracy. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 20:20, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

No, it doesn't show anything at all as I only voted for Labour once Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 20:22, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

I really don't know what to do. :s —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:46, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * that's why I put an in the middle bit! :D Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 21:50, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Sylvanian Residency
Due to new State Laws, I am required to ask you to give me information so that you may be given Sylvanian Residency which is now required to stand and vote in elections in Sylvania, these include:
 * Election of Governors
 * Election of State Councils
 * Election of Local Councils

To obtain Sylvanian Residency you must give me the following information:
 * All your legal residences in Sylvania the date you began living in them
 * Your name

Thank you for your co-operation. - From the Governor of Sylvania, Lukas Hoffmann Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 21:55, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

1 Chapel Street in Charleston since 18 September 2011, William Krosby. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 00:12, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Charleston Local Elections
As your house is within the electoral area I suggest you check out the local elections page here. Candidacy period has started and ends on the 30th of June, the voting period begins on the 1st of July and ends on the 7th of July. Remember as an inhabitant of the Charleston Area you have the full three votes to use.

Thank you for your time. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 18:21, June 24, 2013 (UTC)

No thank you. Local elections should be purely IC if existing at all, made to be realistic by one person to enrich roleplay without actual OOC candidacies and votes, etc. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 19:37, June 24, 2013 (UTC)

User space
Could you please please please not change things in my user space. It is making me confused. I use those tables for the Illustrator file. Cadaro (www.tonefactory.lo) 20:38, June 25, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, but I was putting the correct settlements on, so be sure to update it soon. :P —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:39, June 25, 2013 (UTC)

Compromise
Okay, I see you still have two issues: Hawke's Wood + Sunderland, and Cape Donald. Would you be willing to compromise and leave it like the current situation? I promise that Cape Donald will be one of the smallest hamlets, not interfering with the local wildlife. Regarding Hawke's Wood and Sunderland, could we leave it like the current situation, to create a sense of "urbanity" in the regions surrounding Portland and Newhaven? I'd be very grateful if you accept this proposal (as I am becoming a bit exhausted haha :P) Cadaro (www.tonefactory.lo) 21:04, June 25, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I keep disliking the Cape Donald situation the longer I think about it. Please just remove it, the entire region is called that. Hawke's Wood is fine, but I think it's too crowded, so Oostdorp should definitely be moved just a tad due east to the coast. And Sunderland is also too crowded, please move to the second northernmost peak. I decree this to be the case as the Governor of Kings. Anyway, sorry again if you're exhausting, but this is only three changes, one of which is a deletion. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:08, June 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, I will comply, but not too happily :P Cape Donald will resurface as Cape MacDonald in Clymene haha Cadaro (www.tonefactory.lo) 21:10, June 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * SPEED EDIT: What do you mean by "second northernmost peak"? Cadaro (www.tonefactory.lo) 21:12, June 25, 2013 (UTC)

If you insist. Oh, and I mean move Oostdorp entirely eastward to the coast so that it is touching it. :P —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:13, June 25, 2013 (UTC)

Edit Conflict response: The one north of Brunswick and south of Bergdorf. The settlement would be a little west (or east, whichever you like) of it (I think it's called Deluded Rock). —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:13, June 25, 2013 (UTC)

I'd be happy to continue developing it in Kings. Thanks for adding it to the state. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 23:02, June 25, 2013 (UTC)

Hamlet-village
No, they are not. Read the reference: "↑ Oceana Demographic Center (2013), data for the entire district." :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:19, June 26, 2013 (UTC)

I did see that, but it didn't make sense. None of the rural areas on the page Oceana Demographic Center have more than 500, so it's a contradiction. :P —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 18:20, June 26, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, one: "Southern Wine Region: 661 (1,6%)" Coincidentally, all the talk pages you just created correspond to hamlets in this district :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:27, June 26, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, missed that. Maybe you should provide the actual populations, then? :P —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 18:29, June 26, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, the problem is the addition of Magna Augusta. Oceana Emeralds has probably grown by over 50% now, so I'd have to update everything again. I'll add it next year :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:31, June 26, 2013 (UTC)

Yo TimeMaster, changing hamlets to villages is fine by me, but could you possibly update the village article as well? Cadaro (www.tonefactory.lo) 04:58, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

I will once we know which hamlets are villages. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 12:43, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Dien Village
Alright, I did what you wanted. As the percentages on Oceana Demographic Center no longer add up to 100%, I give you the noble task to recalculate everything: does everything add up to 42,880 and calculate until everything that should be 100% is 100% :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:03, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

I need you to make another hamlet into a village, first. :P —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 12:42, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Haahaha, no :P You got your village, now be pleased :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:56, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, then have fun recalculating. :P —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 13:01, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * :'( Actually, everything is okay now, so.. :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:15, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay :P —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 13:16, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Villages
- I'm starting to worry bout your mental health :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:49, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Hey
Hey! I'm really hoping I could gain your vote for Charleston. I've been a consistent advocate for the people of Charleston and the Stephen Headland! Lets keep the growth going! -Sunkist- (talk) 17:45, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

I would, but I think the local elections in Sylvania are silly. I will consider casting my vote for you. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:22, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

A debate is currently occurring, you can use that to help you decide. :) Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 21:38, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

Sylvanian State Elections
The State elections are divided up into two elections, one for the Council of Representatives and one for the Senate. The election of the Council of Representatives concerns all Lovians and Sylvanian Residents. While the election of the Senate largely concerns only Sylvanian Residents.

There is help at hand so try to take part even if you're not sure, you will be pointed in the right direction and will be given assistance to help things run smoothly.

~ Election of the Council of Representatives ~

What's up for grabs?
 * All 40 of the Council of Representatives seats are up for election

When and how do I stand for election?
 * Today is the 15th of July, the first day on which you can sign up a candidate list for election, act now because on the 21st the candidacy period will end
 * Go here and sign up a candidate list in the correct style however to stand for election you MUST have been a resident of Sylvania for at least two months prior to today
 * You can stand as a candidate in as many as five Districts, so choose those that matter most to you

When and how do I vote?
 * Sylvaniarelatedareas.pngg will begin in a weeks time on the 22nd of July and will end on the 28th of July
 * You will be able to vote in each and every district, as each are like their own mini-elections
 * As long as you are at least a citizen you can vote however the amount of votes you have depend on your official residence
 * If you have an official house within a related area and are a Sylvanian Resident then you are eligible to vote with a major vote, a minor vote as well as a support vote within all districts of that related area
 * If you have an official house within Sylvania and are a Sylvanian Resident then you are eligible to vote with a minor vote as well as a support vote in all districts
 * If you are a Lovian citizen then you are eligible to vote with a support vote in all districts
 * Go here to vote but REMEMBER you can only vote for any candidate once, if you are confused however simply cast your votes and we will be at hand to help smooth out any problems

What will the council do once it's elected?
 * It will propose legislation to the Sylvanian Constitution and the Sylvanian State Law
 * It will vote on legislation in the Sylvanian Constitution and the Sylvanian State Law
 * It will have an influence over how Sylvania is governed
 * It will advise the Governor on actions to take in Sylvania

~ Election of the Senate ~

What's up for grabs?
 * All 10 of the Senate seats are up for election

When and how do I stand for election?
 * Today is the 15th of July, the first day on which you can sign up a candidacy for election, act now because on the 21st the candidacy period will end
 * Go here and sign up a candidacy in the correct style however to stand for election you MUST have been a resident of Sylvania for at least twelve months prior to today
 * You can stand as a candidate in as many as five Districts, so choose those that matter most to you

When and how do I vote?
 * Voting will begin in a weeks time on the 22nd of July and will end on the 28th of July
 * You will be able to vote in each and every district, as each are like their own mini-elections
 * As long as you have Sylvanian Residency you can vote however the amount of votes you have depend on your official residence
 * If you have an official house within a related area and are a Sylvanian Resident then you are eligible to vote with a major vote, a minor vote as well as a support vote within all districts of that related area
 * If you have an official house within Sylvania and are a Sylvanian Resident then you are eligible to vote with a minor vote as well as a support vote in all districts
 * Go here to vote but REMEMBER you can only vote for any candidate once, if you are confused however simply cast your votes and we will be at hand to help smooth out any problems

What will the council do once it's elected?
 * It will vote on legislation in the Sylvanian Constitution and the Sylvanian State Law
 * It will have an influence over how Sylvania is governed
 * It will advise the Governor on actions to take in Sylvania

~ Extra Info ~
 * For more help concerning this issue contact Lukas Hoffmann, the Governor of Sylvania

Thank you for your time. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 16:51, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Make the Council unicameral and I'll think about running. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 18:14, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Somehow I agree with TM, but it's not my task to change it. Up to the governor until a council's been set up, I'd say :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 19:00, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * The Senate has very little power, it's just a check and balance. If you really don't like it then you can legislate against it by getting seats in the council. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 19:04, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Meh, I don't really feel up to the task. :P —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:19, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Why don't you help me to get the council unicameral, TM? :'( --O u WTBsjrief-mich 07:37, July 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * It would be easier to get rid of the Senate through a vote in the federal Congress. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 12:20, July 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's a bit undemocratic to use a national body to change state law, I'd prefer if you did it through the state means. Besides I'll make this promise, that if the Senate causes any problems, I will use my seats in the council (representative and senate) to vote for it's removal before the November elections. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 12:35, July 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * Although it's effective, I agree with Kunarian. It's not Congress's call; it's up to the states to decide how they want it, and as long as it's not unconstitutional or dramatically problematic, we shouldn't act. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:09, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

Meanwhile at Conworlds...
TimeMaster, I, UP, MC, and Falloutfan are working on a new game. Has a lot of potential, and since Super walked out on the game (over some nonsense shamefully), there's one spot left to join if you want to get in. UP states that it'd be nice to have you return. Here's the discussion if you'd like to join. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 14:01, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe, but I don't think I'll be able to commit to it. :/ —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:49, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

Ah well. You know of anyone else who might be interested if you choose not to join? Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 16:18, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

No, not really. But I was just reading on Conworlds and apparently UP is a transsexual? :O —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:21, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

Yup. I was shocked too. I saw him talking about a BF of some sort and makeup, but I though he was joking with MC. I didn't know he was serious. :/  Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 16:28, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

Princess Sylvia
I would like for you to explain to me why you insist on making the poor thing so damn old. Just out of curiosity. I mean she was initially born in 1950, which means she would have had her youngest son Joseph at the age of 44 (which, mind you, is already quite on the old side for birthing a healthy child). You aged her up by six years, making her date of birth 1944, which would mean she had her last kid at 50 and places the birth of all her children, Sebastian and Eliabeth included, in her forties. Now while not medically impossible, it does seem highly unrealistic. Could you perhaps explain to me why you insist on Sylvia being so old? I'm quite interested. For the time being, I aged her down by ten years making her date of birth 1954. This makes her 40 when Prince Joseph was born. Also on the line of succession... you removed all the pictures I added. Again, I put these back for the time being. We can surely find better ones to use instead, but lets not remove them until we do. Found out you can add pictures via flickr, it's kind of easy to do. The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 07:06, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree, she more looks like she's in her early fifties than her late sixties :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:28, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

I wasn't aware that her last child would be born at fifty if she was born in 1944, so that is fine. I changed it back because I didn't want to have a 13 year age difference between Sylvia and Theodore. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:02, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

Also, the pictures are all silly and poor quality. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:03, July 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * The age difference is fine. Same as between Charles and Diana. And could you try to find better pics maybe? The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 14:10, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * I prefer minimal age differences, but I will allow the new dates. Btw, I just looked up the dates and apparently Camilla is a year older than Charles. :P (though you're right about Diana) —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:31, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

In my Kings' defense
I quote: 'yuri sure was pretty egotistical...'. This caught my eye when I checked up on my beloved Kings. So yeah, I may have slipped some vain remarks into that article, but it was never about my ego. Kings has a marvelous bit of content to it, and when it wasn't created by yours truly it sure was directed be me. I say: if you can't stand King's pole position then upgrade other states. Don't downgrade Kings. You got my full attention. :D 09:52, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

Final Calls to Voters
Hey Time, I know you disapprove of the Bicameral system, however if we go unicameral then the Council of Representatives will remain so it'd be nice if you could vote. And to address your concerns, I promise that just before the next State Elections I'll hold a vote in the State Council on whether we should keep the Senate and I shall vote with the majority of other users and will not veto the result as Governor, this would mean the November State Elections would be for a unicameral Council of Representatives. Considering this I'd hope you'd go here and show some support especially considering I've laid out my plans in Speakers Corner clearly about my aims. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 08:10, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

I voted in the Council only. :P —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 12:52, July 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * I thought you would, completely fine, it'll be the council that only matters if it becomes unicameral anyways. Hoffmann LogoCNP2.png Kunarian TALK 13:03, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

OSC - SCO
Could you please add to the list for your party (SLP)? Thank you :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:30, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:00, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem, he was one of the few Oceanan SLPers. :P —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:02, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Mmm.. Maybe you should make your party a bit more attractive to the Oceana voters :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:03, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Contra
--The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 19:14, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

Chat
Come on chat :) 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 16:30, August 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * Or not :'( 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 15:48, August 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * I was on 5 minutes ago, nobody was there. :P —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:50, August 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * :P 4kant,6FRÅGOR??? 15:55, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

Dear mr. Governor
When you gonna start writing about Brunswick, Burke's Dam, Estarois, Fort Johnson, Hawke's Wood, Hewlett, Koningsdorp, Manchester, Milton, Neale Downs, Newcastle, Stanley, Sunderland, Thameen and Windthorn? :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:54, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

In England, there is actually a big city named Newcastle, which my family come from. For that reason, I'd be more than happy to help write the page for that hamlet and indeed any others in Kings Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 16:25, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Quite well-known. Well-known enough for it to have a Limburgish name: . --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:38, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Imagine if we translated all foreign place names into English. Limborough sounds ok, actually. :P @Frijoles: I lived near Newcastle for four years, in Hexham, to be precise. :) --Semyon 21:12, August 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * :P Hexham does not have a Limburgish translation, btw :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 07:14, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Apparently it derives from Old English 'Hagustaldesham,' so I propose 'Haagstèldjheim' as an appropriate etymological translation. :P --Semyon 17:00, August 22, 2013 (UTC) I spent about half an hour working that out, so you better like it. The etymological information on hagosteald was rather scanty.
 * :o I like it very much, though it does not take into account that there shouldn't be an umlaut and the genitive infix -s- is missing :o 'Haagstaldjsheim' or 'Haagsteljesheim' (with full genitive) would make more sense :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:28, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

Wow! My family would be proud! Anyway, I'm still willing to write about any of the red linked hamlets :) Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 16:45, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Write what you want and I will revise anything I dislike. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 19:14, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Will do! Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 19:22, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

@Semyon: Really? What a coincidence! My mum was born near Blyth and I go to Newcastle a few times every year :) Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 21:27, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

I still visit occasionally, but not more than about once a year. I don't recall going to Blyth, though I'm sure I must have been at some point. --Semyon 17:06, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

Jacobians
Did we agree that? I lose track of everything that's been said on talk pages. --Semyon 16:08, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

We had them for a few weeks but decided to not include in the Line of Succession and to merge all their pages into one page called the Jacobian branch of the royal family or something. In my opinion, the page should be deleted. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:49, September 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * I recall agreeing to merge the pages, I don't recall excluding them from the LoS. --Semyon 15:26, September 9, 2013 (UTC)

Time do not be stubborn about the Congress page, everything I've put is correct and you agree it's de facto! it doesn't matter if you care one way or another, it's how it is. Additionally the parties are not wrongly assigned they are assigned like they are in most legislatives, parties that take part in government go by size from left to right. Parties that do not take part in government go by size from right to left. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 06:22, September 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * No, we have always specifically agreed that there would be no "government parties". We don't have an opposition, at least. About the seat map, we've always done by economic viewpoint, not by number of seats. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 11:04, September 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Again you use 'we' when you mean only yourself. And we've never had a set agreement on the position of seats and honestly doing it by political position is simply wrong and is prone to conflict. You are simply being difficult Time. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 12:36, September 9, 2013 (UTC)http://carrington.wikia.com/wiki/Van_Draak_Family#Family_tree_since_1711
 * Actually, I'm fairly sure most people agree with me, not you. We do not have an official government coalition, and definitely not an opposition. It doesn't matter that you think it's wrong and prone to conflict... it's how we do it and you're the only person who seems to have a problem with it. You are simply being difficult Kunarian. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 01:41, September 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well then Time you are behind, people have already agreed that there is a group of parties you can call government parties. And I never said there was a proper coalition at all. And Time I must say that you really must catch up, this problems sorted and only you want to continue ruffling feathers. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 05:52, September 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'm satisfied with the current state. The last time I had reverted your edit, it did not include removing the Government and Opposition parties. Perhaps you didn't bother to check and assumed I did? ;P Anyway, that's fine now since the word opposition was removed. But economic viewpoint is the way we make graphs here, not by number of seats. I don't see why you can't just follow the format. MANY countries go by left-right (more than by size, I think), such as (look them up) Brazil, many Central/Eastern European countries, France, and Germany. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 10:58, September 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm happy to change my graph but only if other people think that it should be done by political leaning. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 11:45, September 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * Your King agrees, Hoffman. As for the Jacobians, TimeMaster, we need to either properly incorporate them into the wiki as all other Royal family members are, or they should not be here at all. No half-assed compromises here, please. It's like they're there, but they're not.  King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 08:35, September 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * I would prefer for them to not be here at all. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 10:58, September 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * Why exactly is this branch not in the LoS, what caused them to be out of it and if they are so scandalous and interesting (judging from the branch's page), why is so little known of them? I have yet to see a sufficient explanation. King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 11:31, September 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * We should keep and incorporate them, because 1. our family is still rather small, 2. They add a variety to the Royal family and 3. The living members are in contention to Brunant's throne (though very distant). HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 12:00, September 10, 2013 (UTC)
 * If you insist on including them Horton, then I'm okay with that. I personally prefer to grow the family in other ways, but if you link to to enough pages, give them proper articles and images and incorporate them into Lovian society then I am okay with that. Then maybe they could be in the Line of Succession too, but only when this is done properly. They would be last in line though, every single one of them. We could write that under Sebastian, the LoS was expanded by allowing people to enter who where previously excluded. We also need a full, official family tree including all members of the family, whether they be in the line to the throne or not. Could you start working on this? I'd be most obliged. The family will also see plenty of natural growth in the years to come as Sebastian's wife is expecting a second child and his sister soon will be marrie to Prince Karl of Brunant (something else you need to look into as we will do this properly and by the book). King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 12:12, September 10, 2013 (UTC)http://carrington.wikia.com/wiki/Van_Draak_Family#Family_tree_since_1711 HORTON11 Email_icon.jpgfollow_me.PNG
 * Sure, no prob. I can help you with the family tree, but the only one I could do is like this. Drawing one out would be very difficult and complicated. : •  13:06, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

As for the wedding, let's have it in October, some time after the royal inauguration. HORTON11 : •  13:09, September 10, 2013 (UTC)

Silent
The biggest trial of the century has currently begun, and last time I checked you were still a Supreme Court Judge. Yet, you have remained remarkably silent on the matter. What's up with the Master of Time? Your services may be needed. King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 09:36, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

I am watching it -- last time I was online was before the case was read (I think). :P —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 10:58, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Haha, I was half-expecting a response along the lines of 'I have absolutely no interest in this ridiculous case and think you are a highly immature person.' :P To be fair, not much has happened yet... --Semyon 11:03, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

Sylvania State Elections


Hey just as we're coming to the end of the candidacy period for the Sylvania State Council I'd like to draw your attention to my campaign for both seats in the Council and for the position as Governor of Sylvania. In our culture policy we're aiming to really bring knowledge about local and state culture to our youngsters, we want more libraries and museums as well as local and state history being taught in schools. With our economic policy, we want to bring business and unions together and we want to support entrepreneurs and fight multinationals. And in policing, we really want to crack down on anti-social behaviour and invest in a police academy. Not to mention we want to actually build the health service we've recently legislated for.

I'd like you to take a look at my campaign in speakers corner where you can ask me questions about my policies and how the CNP will govern in Sylvania. You can also take a look at our policies in more detail, we're currently constructing our policies so if you want to query us about a policy not yet detailed then feel free to go ahead.

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CAMPAIGN LINK

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POLICIES LINK

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'''Remember any vote (Major, Minor or Support!) spared will help bring Sylvania forwards, we want to work very closely with other parties in Sylvania and bring forwards a strong plan to make the next year within Sylvania even better, brighter and exciting than the last. Just remember to vote!'''

VOTE LUKAS HOFFMANN FOR GOVERNOR

VOTE CNP FOR SYLVANIA IN THE COUNCIL OF REPRESENTATIVES

VOTE CNP FOR SYLVANIA IN THE SENATE

Thank you. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 11:34, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your vote in Sylvania! It is much appreciated. :) 77topaz (talk) 22:22, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

Right now it doesn't seem to much of a function, so I wouldn't be opposed to removing it, but of course we'll also have to see what the rest of the SSC thinks. 77topaz (talk) 00:03, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I'll support the removal of the senate in the SSC, once it gets voted upon. :P 77topaz (talk) 01:53, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Kings State Council Elections
Hello there, Resident of Kings!

Candidacies for the Kings State Council elections, will be open here tomorrow at 7am GMT. Check out the Kings State Law for full rules.

Good luck! Frijoles333 Marcel Cebara TALK 15:12, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

Hello
Hi have you considered running in the Kings State Council Elections? I know you're not a fan of having OOC elections for the KSC, but it would be great if you took part anyway, as you would be able to have your voice heard on matters concerning Kings :) Frijoles333 Marcel Cebara TALK

I have considered it, but currently I don't think SLP will be participating in any of the state council elections this year. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 12:00, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

Are you going to vote in these elections? 77topaz (talk) 08:00, January 8, 2014 (UTC)

Probably not, but maybe. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 02:49, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

It'd be useful for the left, especially since the SLP is now seemingly gone (no-one is representing it in the elections, though Granero did vote). :P Do you think you'll resume the party at some point? 77topaz (talk) 23:55, January 15, 2014 (UTC)