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I have annexed your country Tukumunanganon because it was attacked by the red army Pierlot McCrooke 09:22, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you :) --O u WTB 09:43, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The Red Army is an terroristic organization in Lovia Pierlot McCrooke 09:57, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * That's not so good. --O u WTB 10:26, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Which company you want to be declared illegal Pierlot McCrooke 10:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * None yet. --O u WTB 10:32, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Hav you seen Template:Illegal company? I have added it to LOkixx Comp. Pierlot McCrooke 10:34, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It looks very professional. --O u WTB 10:37, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I have maked it so i can stop companies of dictators like Mr. Zjoekov Pierlot McCrooke 10:40, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

lol

kom es online joh ;) (msn) --Bucureştean 18:39, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ik zal 's kyke of 't lukt (zit erges onder op n vista cmputer met een nl toetsebord :P) --O u WTB 18:40, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Separaţie? Când va reveni Anfii? :D

Separation? Quand va revenir Anfii? :P --Bucureştean 19:29, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Eh şîmbaţie recente şi mulţu frumesc, cubălâ... --O u WTB 16:10, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Schimbări recente şi mulţumesc frumos? :P --Bucureştean 16:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Võyis schimbãri recente shi võyis Anfii... --O u WTB 16:22, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Wat bazel je :P --Bucureştean 16:48, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Eu basal nu! --O u WTB 16:49, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Nu "băzăleşti"? :P Bucureştean 16:51, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Da! :D --O u WTB 16:51, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ocyei! Bunã Dimitriatha! :S Bucureştean 20:25, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Multumesc! --O u WTB 06:38, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Slâ. --Bucureştean 14:09, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Slâ comradã! --O u WTB 15:39, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Ţovarăşe* (niet in OVTBiana! :D) --Bucureştean 16:33, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Prienten... --O u WTB 16:35, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Prieten* --Bucureştean 16:36, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Too much?
Maybe this is too much... --O u WTB 17:11, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * ??? Aesop 17:21, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Kijk, ik ben dus nu hier geblokt, maar ik ben er niet zeker van of American Eagle wel wat wat er allemaal gebeurd is... Ik was hier vrijwel de enige die de laatste maand nog nuttig heeft bijgedragen, maar toch ben ik geblokt :S Ik begrijp er niets meer van... --O u WTB 17:23, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Look at that page please. 17:50, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I promise to iunblock you next week if you promise me not to interrupt my work here. 17:50, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, if you undelete Newport, though I still don't know why I'm blocked :S --O u WTB 17:52, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Because you violated the constitution by replacing it by an illegal law that was not legally voted in Congress. I will undelete Newport after having made an agreement on the redesignation of Hurbanova. 17:53, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Alexandru has created that law and replaced it, not me... What does redesignation mean? --O u WTB 17:53, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Hurbanova has led to too many conflicts, and thus we will have to do something with it that will avoid all conflicts. Changing its identity a bit, making it smaller etc. 17:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Eh... I was busy with inviting Vreêlandic people to Hurbanova... --O u WTB 17:57, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * They will still be welcome after the update :) 17:59, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Sjajse... Then I've got to send a new mail... --O u WTB 18:00, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Her op richtingLibertas
Seury heur mer jie kent hier neety aaideeten  16:28, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Tff.. --OoWeThBe 16:29, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Libertas
The republic of libertas isnt recognized in Lovia. Only the kingdom of libertas is recognized in lovia 11:08, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Pincet, kop dicht en steek 'm in je ongewassen reet. --OoWeThBe 11:11, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Haahahhaa > --Bucurestean 20:05, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
 * Oei.. Ik was volgens mij een beetje geïrriteerd :P --O u WTB 07:34, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * Volgens mij wel --Bucurestean 12:53, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

IMPORTANT
Please Check This Out: The Act To Save Lovia Fuji12345

Newport
Newport is annexed by lovia 08:11, 10 May 2009 (UTC) Pierlot, onnozelaar... Greenday2 09:51, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Niet langer welkom
je bent hier niet langer welkom elke poging van jou om je in te schrijven bij de The Act To Save Lovia-lijst zal ik ongedaan maken 14:18, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

KOningsgezeur
Lovua had nog steeds actief geweest als we allemaal braaf hadden gedaan. Nu is wikination bijna inactief. En daardoor zijn er nog diverse interessante onafgemaakte projecten zoals The Lovelyen Adoha.Zeker met Adoha vindt ik dat het zeer triestig is gegaan 19:31, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back! (6) --Bucurestean 10:01, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Jong è ook è. Ik word nu al ramdepressief ervan :P --O u WTB 10:02, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * I can see it in your eyes that you actually like it xP --Bucurestean 10:05, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Eigenlijk niet want ik moet nog voor morgen een geschiedenisverslag over acht adellijke families in Rome inleveren (moet nog beginnen è :P) --O u WTB 10:09, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Wat studeer jij nu nog OWTB? Is dit je laatste jaar secundair? 10:10, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * VWO zonder Grieks/Latijn - genoeg punten, maar te lui :P, vijfde jaar van de zes. 't Is zó makkelijk è. --O u WTB 10:12, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ikke werkstukje & les van 20 min. voorbereiden (:S) voor filo... --Bucurestean 10:12, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Kutvak :P Gelukkig is onze leraar om te kopen met eten :P --O u WTB 10:13, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Azo. Ik heb amper huiswerk, maar ik heb mijn handen vol met die retedikke sylabussen enzo. 10:15, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Om te kopen? xD Lol. Ik heb ook 'n vak Wijsbegeerte - eindeloos dikke boek. 10:15, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Wij doen nooit wat uit onze boeken, behalve bij KCV. Stencils is alles dat je nodig hebt :P --O u WTB 10:16, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Wij wel. Lekker 50 blz leren per toets <:o) --Bucurestean 10:16, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * KCV? 10:17, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Klassieke Culturele Vorming, zeg maar met de Grieken en die zooi. Saai... --O u WTB 10:18, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * bwc Klassieke culturele vorming ofzo, maar dat heb je alleen als je tekenen, latijn of griek bij je pakket hebt. Wij hadden CKV ipv KCV... is niet zo interessant --Bucurestean 10:19, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ik heb ich een 100% K&Z-profiel :P --`O u WTB 10:20, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Cultura & Societate bedoel je, idd. Ik heb er twee tegelijk, C&M en E&M --Bucurestean 10:22, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Blij dat ik van al die verplichte, secundaire, algemene zever vanaf ben. 100% talen en letterkunde . 10:23, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol, bij mij ook een beetje met Spaans & Frans... --Bucurestean 10:24, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ketuuer ènde Zaamlaeving*. Ik heb ook veel talen è :P en nog belangrijker: wiskunde C :P --O u WTB 10:24, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Hmm I knew it :D --Bucurestean 18:08, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Erg è :P --O u WTB 18:11, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter. You were getting lonely on that Limburgish wiktionary without my daily visit --Bucurestean 18:27, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Wa! :P Mèns se? :P Ik had nog steeds 3 Hollanders om me heen è :P --O u WTB 18:28, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Have to admit: I've missed thou! --Bucurestean 18:46, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * thee*. Ow, dalik niet meer :P --O u WTB 18:47, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * O yea, our conversations rock :)) --Bucurestean 18:49, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hahaha :D Hier valt wel idd iets meer te lachen als op li.wikt moet ik zeggen :P Maar daar heb ik ook af-en-toe plat gelegen. --O u WTB 18:50, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Church
We, the Romanian minority of Hurbanova & Oceana, would like to build an Eastern Christian Church in Hurbanova. Would this be possible? --Bucurestean 17:37, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * Why not in Noble City or Newhaven? :) More "visitors"!  17:42, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * No place in "my" Little Europe, where the other part of the Romanian minority is living (will make a emoticon for that one). --Bucurestean 17:44, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think we would have space for a church. In Drake Town we have 4 spaces used for the government buidling, but in fact two would be enough, so there? --O u WTB 19:39, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * De acord! --Bucurestean 20:39, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok. That has been done now :) --O u WTB 05:18, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Election time
I'm going to start up the election procedures for both state and federal elections very soon, as we already discussed. On December 1 candidates can subscribe. I would like you too, OWTB, to run for MOTC, if you were not convinced yet of doing so. If you may, becoming Governor is also an option - of Oceana I suppose? But I must tell you, I am trying to rework the system so that some state powers will be shifted to other levels. Currently, a Governor is rather dictatorial (lol). And I want to fix that, you see. 09:37, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * I see :P You'll see (we use this verb too much..) whether I subscribe on December 1 è. --O u WTB 15:09, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * I really need to talk to you - I'm getting mad. Argh. Email or something like that? 18:06, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
 * Just send me a mail using e-mail this user. --O u WTB 18:09, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Seals
OWTB, I'm trying to get all seals and flags fixed. I think only the Hurbanova neighborhoods and hamlet still need one of both. For Drake Town I was thinking of an allusion to Francis Drake, but I don't find anything valuable. Any ideas for Millstreet, Drake Town and Eastdinges? 16:28, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * East Hills*. Not really, you know I'm not very creative with seals :) Maybe for Millstreet you could do something with the Hurbanova Mill and with East Hills something about the mines? --O u WTB 16:30, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll look what I can do for Millstreet first. 16:47, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. Take your time :) --O u WTB 16:48, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * I made a simple seal, with a clear allusion to the Oceana design - idem for the flag. Would that be okay? I'll upload them rightaway. 16:55, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yesm it's beautiful. Thank you! :) --O u WTB 19:08, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Do you like my propaganda? --Bucurestean 18:28, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, good work :) --O u WTB 18:32, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

@Second Chamber: Don't know what to believe. --Bucurestean 18:31, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Whereabout is this? --O u WTB 18:38, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * It doesn't make any sense. First of all you shout that politics don't interest you anymore and that you don't want to be a PFC but you keep voting as a citizen. Don't know what to think about your credibility. --Bucurestean 18:42, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * :( It doesn't interest me much anymore, but I don't want to be uninvolved with the rest of Lovia, so I vote as a citizen. --O u WTB 18:44, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with that . You're still not running for MOTC I suppose? 18:46, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * At the moment not. Maybe I'll change my mind, but I think my regional-minded points of view won't help Lovia much, so :) --O u WTB 18:49, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm happy to hear that from you. 18:50, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok :) but now I'm gone. Have a nice day! --O u WTB 18:51, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Swimming again? Salut! --Bucurestean 18:52, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Each Thursday è :P --O u WTB 14:54, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

Education
Could you fix the curricula of your two primary schools in Hurb? The Federal Law prescribes some fixed courses, as you know. In Train Village, Sofasi and Noble City I adapted my schools to this law, perhaps you can take a look at them first :) 10:58, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Two primary schools? I thought I only had one.. --O u WTB 11:17, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * The articles say there's the Oceans' Farm and the Skhola thing. 11:55, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * You mean The Old Oceans' Farm? That's no longer a primary school since 2008. --O u WTB 11:59, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry. 12:06, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Hee he :P --O u WTB 18:03, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
 * Haa ha :b --Bucurestean 20:26, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Perhap I should say 'welcome back' to you as well. Still alive mate? Not interested in becoming MOTC? 18:24, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps :) No, I'm not interested in becoming MOTC :) --O u WTB 18:32, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay. 18:40, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * I think there's not much animo from other people too, if I might be honest. --O u WTB 18:42, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * I know. I hope to fix that before the end of the month. We will reform the Congressional system in 2010, so perhaps that might do something as well. 18:50, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps :) --O u WTB 18:51, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

Sister cities
Train Village would love to become a sister city of Hurbanova. In our opinion, we, on both sides of the Beaver River, should work together, making the Highlands and the Beaver Valley a pleasant part of the country to live in (And we need a road from Hurbanova to Train Village ). What do you think sir Mayor? --Bucurestean 13:17, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok. I think it won't do any harm, so :P --O u WTB 06:42, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Campground issue
Could you ask Ben whether he wants to keep his campgrounds or not? 06:52, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * Oos, you don't want to know what I just ate.  --Bucurestean 12:59, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * Flaaj*. I won't see him until Monday, so you need to be a little bit patient :) --O u WTB 15:04, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * OK Pierlot McCrooke 15:09, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Do you already know anything? Pierlot McCrooke 18:24, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * No, I haven't spoken him today. --O u WTB 18:26, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok. When will you speak him? Pierlot McCrooke 18:27, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Tomorrow maybe. --O u WTB 18:29, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Youre sounding like dimtri. But i hope that you can speak him tomorrow because we want to fix the camping issue Pierlot McCrooke 18:30, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Why don't you leave Ben's camping alone and you create one just for yourself. --Bucurestean 18:31, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Ill first want the opinion of ben on it Pierlot McCrooke 18:35, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

Press
For La Quotidienne, the following questions:
 * Do you think your small party will survive and stand on its own, or should you seek for partners? If so, which of the parties could you see as possible partners? --Bucurestean 19:11, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * (a little bit hasty) Well, I haven't seen the programs of all other parties yet, but I suppose our program has some key elements in common with the one of the Liberal Democrats. For now, I won't tell any possible partners :) --O u WTB 19:13, December 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm... thanks --Bucurestean 19:17, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Why do you hate Belgian Limburg? Pierlot McCrooke 16:40, December 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * Why should I hate Belgian Limburg?? I know many Belgian Limburgish people and most of them are friends and they speak Limburgish too, so there's no reason for me to hate it.. Why do you think I hate it? --O u WTB 16:54, December 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol  17:04, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Good morning!
Good morning Mr. Oos Wes! I'm Andy McCandless and as you know I'm the chairman of the Walden Libertarian Party. Me and Edward Hannis are our 2010 candidates to become Members of the Congress.

We would really appreciate you voting for (one of) our candidats in the upcoming elections. Perhaps you might find that you still have one or two votes to give; well, we would be thrilled with happiness to receive just one vote from you!

Thank you! 09:29, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * What do I get in return of voting for you? --O u WTB 18:22, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Love. --Bucurestean 18:27, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Eh... I'll sleep a night on it... (wow, I didn't know my English was so bad :P) --O u WTB 18:28, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * You'll call it a day night? :P Btw, why aren't you never online on msn? --Bucurestean 18:29, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Dubbele ontkenning? :P I'm never online, because I forget to log in :P --O u WTB 18:35, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

Neo-plemming
could you please write the neo-plemming-peoms and quotations in Humormagazine? Pierlot McCrooke 19:04, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid he'll get blocked if he would do that... --Bucurestean 19:06, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * just say that it is for humor purposes Pierlot McCrooke 19:09, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Why don't you tell that to Dimitri? --Bucurestean 19:11, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

See poll at TVN Pierlot McCrooke 17:42, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Exciting
Do exciting things happen here? If so, can you tell me what, and what I could do around here? And could I become a politician, which party is the biggest, and how many are there? William Johnson 18:37, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, sometimes exciting things happen :) You can become a politician, but I don't remember if you need to become a citizen then (50 edits). For the parties, look here. --O u WTB 18:40, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Could I join the LOWIA? I am a bit of a right wing guy, I think I would fit in. Will you have me? William Johnson 18:41, December 22, 2009 (UTC) I just joined in. I dunno how many politicians there are, but if it is only a handful then LOWIA is no longer just a minor political party my friend. Do you have a poster yet? William Johnson 18:48, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, you're always welcome :) Just add your name under the member section and you've joined :) --O u WTB 18:44, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I guess we're still not very large :) No, I don't have a poster. --O u WTB 18:52, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

I shall be portaying the role of financer then. Anything else I could do? William Johnson 18:56, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, you could try to become a citizen as soon as possible, so you can run/vote for the federal elections :) --O u WTB 19:01, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

What should I do to become a citizen? William Johnson 19:02, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * Be active for four days and make 50 edits in articles :) --O u WTB 19:04, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, that won't be to hard I guess. :) William Johnson 19:05, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * No :) --O u WTB 19:07, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

I made:


 * 1) William Johnson
 * 2) Amy Johnson

And Amy Johnson even has her own User blog:William Johnson/Amy Johnson blog! :) William Johnson 19:18, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * Good work :) It's always nice to see new users doing something constructive on the wiki :) --O u WTB 19:24, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Drake Town
Hey OWTB. I finally made a seal/flag design for Drake Town. I hope you don't mind, but I let me inspired by the English (not British) flag, knowing Drake was an Englishman. Is that okay with you? I'll get them uploaded and let me know what ye think of it. 18:50, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

I'll be open for your designs. --O u WTB 18:51, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * What do you say?  18:53, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * (some delay) Ok, they look much better than the first flag. Ich bin für! :P --O u WTB 18:58, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks . 18:59, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Enjoy the holidays!
How how how! Have a great time and I wish you the best of luck for 2010!  11:54, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. You too :) --O u WTB 12:20, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, have a good Christmas man. All of you guys. William Johnson 12:22, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
And a happy new year with a lot of joy, friendship and of course healthiness. --Bucurestean 12:05, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * Mulţumesc :P The same for you :) --O u WTB 17:33, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

2010 Notice
Hi there!

First of all, I'd like to wish you the best for 2010! I hope you'll enjoy the next decade. As a Lovian, I also wish to express my hope for an active Lovian in 2010.

Furtheron, there is important political news. Our first democratic elections since 2008 have just begun! As a citizen, you are entitled to vote for our candidates. All candidates with three supportive votes will become Member of the Congress, and the person with the most votes shall become our Prime Minister. I don't have to tell you how important it is for me, Lovia and yourself that you cast your votes wisely! You have three supportive votes which you can give to three different candidates. This you can do from this moment on, at the Federal Elections Office.

Good luck in 2010 and I hope to see you in the elections office!

17:44, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * First of all a happy new year. Second: what is happening here? --Bucurestean 16:27, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Last week, Dietrich Honecker came to this site. He founded the IGP, as so-called "fascist" movement and political party quickly gaining more followers. This caused chaos in Lovia. Mr. Honecker was banned, but Pierlot (mr. Traitor) took over the IGP and mildly reformed it. Then he faked his death, betrayed the party and came back again to PD. 94.212.213.26 16:32, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * So bucu that is what happens here. 94.212.213.26 16:32, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Did I ask you something? --Bucurestean 16:37, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I gave answer anyways superior people don't need to be asked they just speak whatever is on their superior minds. 94.212.213.26 16:38, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright, "wikikid" :)) --Bucurestean 16:40, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

You maggot! I can crush you like an elephant would crush an ant... ants are busy little creatures, but elephant crush ants. 94.212.213.26 16:44, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't understand, am I a maggot or an ant? You certainly do have big words, but unfortunately you seem a bit instable. Are you a both fascist and communist? How interesting! --Bucurestean 16:47, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I am stable like bridge over water. Like stone, like mountain. Like brick wall. I am fascist all the way. 94.212.213.26 16:49, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * You still remain the old good and well-behaved wikikid xP --Bucurestean 16:53, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Happy new year :) --O u WTB 18:17, January 9, 2010 (UTC) (tis al driekoningen geweest è... )

Why are you fooling around with Pierius? You cant take that man serious Pierlot McCrooke 13:14, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * So? Does it mean that I don't have the right to speak to him? --O u WTB 13:17, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes you have the right. But you have to stell you better up against Pierius Pierlot McCrooke 13:29, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't want take the hard line. I think that Pierius does have a point in saying that it's not fully correct that a selected group of people has been blocked. I also believe that you have done things that we should not forget too, in the past, but also in the present. Who will tell us what your plans for the future are? --O u WTB 13:36, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just say to Pierius he should ignore this wikia Pierlot McCrooke 13:39, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I can say it to him, but he's more like a hunter. When he says a pray, he will catch it, no matter what. --O u WTB 13:42, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * That is the problem with Pierius Pierlot McCrooke 13:43, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

IK heb echt een binnepretje met die aandachtzoekende magnus :) Hoe kan je dan iemand nog serieus nemen vraag ik me af? Zo lijkt hij net op GW Pierlot McCrooke 17:45, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * GW is nog altijd beter dan Obama.. Maar ja, wie ook niet? :P --O u WTB 17:51, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Maar GW discrimineerd tegen moslims Pierlot McCrooke 17:54, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * En Obama belooft dingen die 'ie niet nakomt: "I will close Guantanamo Bay" ja ja.. Vervolgens houdt 'ie er nog eens zeventig Jemenieten vast. Alsof Obama zoveel losser t.o.v. moslims staat.. Sterker nog: sindsdat Obama aan de macht is, groeit het aantal KKK-leden als een vliegende speer door de lucht. --O u WTB 18:07, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Both people arent doing the thing they want to
 * Pff.. They only want to have much money. A good president would be always there for his nation. --O u WTB 18:13, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * That is why they support always the economic side, so they get MONEY Pierlot McCrooke 18:16, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Jao, zoea geit det. --O u WTB 18:30, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

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I have heard Pierius just fantasizes it that he is Frisian. He is a Groninger.
 * Ha :P You could ask him to type some Frisian. Then you'll know for sure :) --O u WTB 15:15, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I have seen his Ip talk page at wikipedia Pierlot McCrooke 15:17, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Enne? Was it interesting? --O u WTB 15:18, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * This is on it:Deze account of dit IP-adres behoort bij een langdurende structureel vandalisme affaire; Kermansjahi & co die zich tot diverse taalversies van Wikipedia uitstrekt. Het betreft een klein groepje leerlingen van het Maartenscollege te Haren (NL) die vanuit huis en school steeds nieuwe aliassen blijven aanmaken, daarmee veelal dubieuze bewerkingen doen, historische artikelen van onjuiste informatie voorzien, hoaxartikelen over niet bestaande personen aanmaken, met andere eigen sokpoppen "communiceren", ruziemaken en ontkennen dat ze het zijn. Nepidentiteiten betreffen vaak bijzondere herkomsten als perzisch, native american, zigeuner of fries. Nieuwe gebruikersnamen moeten voor onbeperkte tijd geblokkeerd worden, IP-adressen voor een jaar geblokkeerd. Pierlot McCrooke 15:23, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah ja, doet me aan de zeeuwse wikipedia denken, maar goed. Het klopt dus wel dat Pierius zegt dat hij niet meerdere accounts heeft dan. Hij zorgt gewoon dat andere Groningse leerlingen tevens een account aanmaken en daarmee de boel komen vandaliseren. Interessante aanpak.. --O u WTB 15:25, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Zijn wikia-accounts worden volgens mij allen bestuurd door de zelfde persoon. Vanm wikipedia weet ik het niet Pierlot McCrooke 15:28, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Kijk uit met vermoedens, een groot deel ervan is slechts schele waarheid. --`O u WTB 15:29, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Maar hij heeft wel sokpooppen Pierlot McCrooke 15:30, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Dat zou kunnen ja. --O u WTB 15:31, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Could you please design municipality names for thr canton Zuiderland in Waaiendland? Pierlot McCrooke 15:49, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Could you give me a link? --O u WTB 15:58, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * this Pierlot McCrooke 16:01, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Pierius is telling you some nonsense about higher connenctions Pierlot McCrooke 17:05, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Advertisement
Hi! Am I allowed to publish a LFA advertisement in the Hurbanova Novine, please? -- 18:19, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Of course you are :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:23, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you! -- 18:24, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Good :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:30, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you like the campaign? Feel free to say 'no' if you are unhappy about it! -- 18:32, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * What campaign are you asking for if I might ask? :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:44, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * This one, OuWTB! -- 18:46, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ow.. I must have looked over it then.. I personally think the campaign is suitable for what it is aiming to, but of course I'm not a freethinker or atheist, so I don't agree with its goal :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:53, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I am glad you are open-minded so as to find it suitable, even when you are not in agreement with its goals. In a manner, that in itself is the campaign's goal. -- 18:56, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hahaha :P Then the campaign seems to work ;) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:57, January 15, 2010 (UTC)

De luugs
Èn de'ch t'm zoog! Doe zèts mich al weir óp te lichte hei! ;-) Ben (talk) 15:59, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wa! :P Chaer kröp es get daer! :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:31, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Movie
Hi! Are you in for a little collaboration? I was thinking of making another Heritage Studios movie (after The Lovely), but I could not find a good topic. So, I was wondering... Could you not help me find a topic and plot from the Oceana-Lovian heritage? -- 08:05, January 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I can help you with Oceana stuff yeah :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:33, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

What about making a movie about the Iron Guard Party, the rise and fall of Dietrich Honecker, public enemy number one? Dr. Magnus 20:13, January 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * You can do it, but the IGP is not really my vakgebied, so I can't help you :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 07:02, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * What's your vakgebied then? M. Van Gent 07:05, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * At this wiki it's Oceana and Hurbanova :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 07:06, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I see =) M. Van Gent 07:07, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Revienaasj elovië
'ch Aer sjiks i g'r sjomaasj, dös ich mót 'n nag ef bezeen. Wiejers bönne 'ch geinen börger èn det druueg ouch bie aan aafnieginger. Waal haech nag e versjied aan perjèkter veur Lovië in euverstenje. Des-se den wèts :) Bart K 08:21, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Det begriepe 'ch. Mesjiens is 'd baeter es se dich mids óp eine wikieë :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:18, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Det begriepe 'ch nie. Dialect is so much worse if you write it.  14:57, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * If it were a dialect, you would be able to understand it. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:16, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * "Mesjiens is 'd baeter es se dich mids óp eine wikieë"= perhaps is it better if you(weak form) you(rself) concentrate(second p.) on one wiki(+dative). --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:20, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * I just have fun deciphering the (to me) strange grammar. It is laajk vraajting inglisj as proonaunst in dutsj. 16:50, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Limburgish grammar is indeed strange, I must admit :) We are the only Germanic language having six functional cases after all ;) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:06, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Strange, compared to the neighboring languages. Whereas English, Frisian and Dutch are almost entirely deflexed, and German has four (?) cases, your Limburgish has so many! Quite puzzling. -- 18:24, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * German indeed has four: nominative, genitive, dative and accusative, but Limburgish has recreated/kept (no research done on it) the locative (heives -> towards the house) and has developed a postpositionalis (hoezeraves -> (moving) away from the house). --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:49, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Rather bizarre! What happens on the other side of the Uerdingen line, is one mystery! -- 18:53, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 19:04, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Could I perhaps count on your goodwill to support the honorable cause of restoring infrastructure in Haiti? -- 19:06, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, of course. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 19:14, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you a lot! It will be well spent. Oh, and yes: what about the movie? Do you have a particular historical topic in mind? -- 19:15, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * At the moment I'm quite inspirationless (I've been working all day on li.wikt, so I'm very tired). I'll let you know when I've got something in mind :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 19:20, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * That would be great . Please take your time. -- 19:22, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

@OWTB: Ich mid mich lever den :) Bart K 15:33, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Images behind the bars
Would you have a look a the recent changes at from visitors, some amongst us are curious what extacly you meant at the time. Especially me, as you can imagine --Lars Washington 10:15, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Which sentence should I explain to you? --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:30, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Now I understand! Lars, do you really want pictures of you behind the bars too? :S --OWTB 14:06, 26 July 2008 (UTC) Now I understand! Lars, do you really want pictures of you behind the bars too? :S --OWTB 14:06, 26 July 2008 (UTC) --Lars Washington 10:35, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's a reaction on a remark you made earlier in the discussion: "@ --OWTB 10:33, 20 April 2008 (UTC), you make me laugh (warm haertedly of course) ! Really, can you put me behind bars too ? I kind of like the idea . You are a real artist it seems to me. Use your skills in a positive way and you will be loved by all. Lars 10:39, 20 April 2008 (UTC)" :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:38, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * In a few years we might even be able to make a Lars Washington exhibition, who knows?  10:46, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nobody knows ;) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:50, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Hurbanova Novine
Nothing to write about? :) Bart K 16:41, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * :( Maybe we could make a Kyrkablähd of it :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:54, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * As if someone will still be reading it then :P Our Kyrkablähd always goes directly to the old paper :) Bart K 15:55, January 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * At least there's news then è :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:47, January 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * We need more advertisement then, oké? Bart K 10:24, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:09, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

Elected!
Congratulations, Mr. Ilava! You are elected to the 2010 Congress. You will shortly be briefed on what is coming up. For more information and statistics: Forum:The Pub. 07:24, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you! :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:55, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Hello
I've got on with you during my time in Lovia and I think now that a ban might be approaching because Hengst Smid has caused too much controversy. However, I'd like to keep in touch. We both have an interest in linguistics and your pride in Limburg is an admirable quality.Scanderson 07:28, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:55, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * They're not going to ban me, it seems. Ignore my goodbye. :DScanderson 10:41, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:52, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Part of the government
Congratulations, dear Member of the Congress! Not only were you democratically elected to Congress, you were also appointed Federal Secretary by our Prime Minister. It can be quite overwhelming, having so many high-profile jobs, I know. Take your time to discover the possibilities of your Department, and feel free to ask whatever pops up in your mind. In the meanwhile I propose that you and your colleagues focus on our legislative branch. Lovia needs reform, and also voted for reform, legal reform. That is this government's basic duty! If we work on this tough issue first, progress will soon come our way. Thanks a lot for this wonderful engagement and congratulations with your new job! 08:24, February 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll do :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:23, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Adlibita
Mersi, văd că nu s-a declanşat niciun război în Adlibita :)) --Bucurestean 10:14, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ba da :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:23, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Dar unde? :O --Bucurestean 10:28, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Niciunde e război :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:31, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Bun, cum spui tu . Acest limburghez vrea să fie şmecher :P --Bucurestean 10:44, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hahaha, da, sum şmecher :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:45, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Dar nu vei fi niciodată un adevărat şmecher de Bucureşti ^^ --Bucurestean 10:50, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ţţţţţţţ.... :P Trebuie să merg. Slâ Bâcâ! --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:52, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Tststststs? :P Te salut frăţioare --Bucurestean 10:59, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nu în ovetabiână! :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:23, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * De acord, mai vorbim în cet pe emesen? --Bucurestean 15:26, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * De acord, 5 sec. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:26, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Interview on National Leftist Assembly
In March the National Leftist Assembly will be held. Invited parties are the Walden Libertarian Party, Progressive Democrats Party, Lovian Communist Party (together a majority in Congress) and the Anti-Fascist League.

You, Oos Wes Ilava, are known to be the only real rightist politician in Congress. I would like to ask you several questions:
 * 1) What is your general view on the leftist assembly?
 * 2) Are you afraid of being excluded in Congress?
 * 3) What do you think will be the result of the assembly? Will the gap between Monarchists and Republicans or/and Right and Left become bigger?
 * 4) Will the political opponents of the gathered parties come with a response to the leftist assembly?
 * 5) Why do you think the center leftist Liberal Democrats were excluded, although LD party leader Harold Freeman is allowed to come?

I hope you won't mind answering these questions ;). Many thanks in advance! --Bucurestean 12:12, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I would like to make clear that all leftist-inspired people are welcome. The ones invited are those we are (pretty) sure off, but consider yourself invited too. I believe I posted an invitation to the general public in the Pub too. Should I also answer these questions?
 * The goal of the leftist assembly is to make an appeal to the people. Left must get into the game.
 * Excluding, collaborating and such are not on the agenda.
 * Anti- or pro-monarchy have nothing to do with the left/right issue. Left should however become stronger and dare to speak its mind.
 * No-one is excluded, everyone who supports leftism is welcome. We asked Harold because he is in the AFL
 * I hope this will spare us a lot of confusion/commotion. 12:26, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I bet you feel very brilliant now . As I see everyone is equal to Lovian law, I would like to say it in your own words: go to hell. --Bucurestean 12:43, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * is this text meant anti or pro-Yuri? It isnt very clear Pierlot McCrooke 12:45, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Please note that the leftist assembly wasn't my initiative. Jon Johnson and August Magnus Donia talked about it. I just got a prominent place in it afterwards. 12:48, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * So what? --Bucurestean 12:50, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't understand your hostility towards something that still has to come, is in fact about nothing (unless as part of a turn left for the PD) and tries to create bridges? You have the UoR without left/right notions and I'm taking part in a leftist meeting without monarchist/republican notions. I was btw kind enough to drop all references to the UoR out of my speech. 12:53, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * All these rumours on the talk page of UoR, it all seemed to me an attempt from PD's and LCP's side to eliminate the Republicans. Would you really want to start an offensive against the UoR because we don't want to be determined as rightists, leftists or centrists? Of course there are controversial members, but the LCP is controversial too. Wasn't it Pierius who actually worked together with the members of the IGP when he was in exile? If you'd stay in my shoes, won't you be suspecting this case either? Exactly after this warning you started to organize the meeting, inviting the most leftist parties and the anti-fascist league (UoR beig "racist" because of one member). And exactly a slight majority in Congress. Of course you could be planning something. --Bucurestean 13:02, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * If the motion of wantrouwen'-law will be passed i will propose a Motion of Wantrouwen against the Cabinet to the congress. I feel thecurrent situation is too undemocratical in lovia Pierlot McCrooke 13:06, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I can understand your suspicion. I'm not against the UoR, I just don't like the fact that 'controversial members' are allowed. I guess I'll have to live with that, though I will not let my opinion go unnoticed. It was never my goal to attack, isolate or dismiss the UoR, in fact I can sympathize with you guys. I just think you exaggerate a bit about Dimitri's actual role, though less king would be good. Also, I didn't set up the meeting. I took over the initiative of others who already started organizing. The UoR doesn't have to fear our little gathering, it's just show. The real 'turn left' we have to make all for ourselves. I hope that hereby the whole misunderstanding is settled, perhaps I don't try hard enough to separate my personal opinion from the PD's or PM's. Forgive me this 'human' flaw.  13:10, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Pretty "funny" it is my role that is being found too grotesque to be true. Congress is totally yours, the people's. I got one fucking seat, and guess what, the king is in charge. Funny thing. It's getting at my nerves. I keep to this: those of you who have never contributed to our laws and government, and I see you guys, shut up. Get working first. 15:04, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not going to read this entire block of text. What is expected from me? --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:09, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nimic... :P --Bucurestean 20:18, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry to interrupt, but starting the assembly was never an attempt to create a more leftist Lovia, I just want that all divided left comes together. This wouldn't mean a real power change or swop to the left, it would just reorganize and simplify the actual politics. Jon Johnson 21:39, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

First Chamber
I have changed something to the lawtext of the voting options proposal Pierlot McCrooke 11:09, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Dangers
Hurbanova Novine and other newspapers keep writing about me and how I am a danger to society and all. But the real danger comes from the nazi's... Could you write a very negative, destructive article about Dietrich Honecker and Drabo Doorian and their followers, please? About the danger to society the IGP is? That would be better then to be negative about the LCP all the time. We are leftist and you are rightist, but we have a common enemy, I believe. Dr. Magnus 17:06, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * In dutch we would call that: meten met 2 maten. You dont want negative articles about you, but why you also want negative articles about your enemies? Pierlot McCrooke 17:11, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

They are your enemies aswell, McCrooke. And they wanted to outlaw the LCP. Interesting enough, Pierlot, you and the king are defending these nazi's... Why? Dr. Magnus 17:12, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * We arent defending those nazis. Pierlot McCrooke 17:13, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

You where... you removed the nickname me and Bucu gave them and then also deleted the image comparing Drabo to Hitler... Dr. Magnus 17:14, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thats i because it was insulting, not because we are defending those nazis Pierlot McCrooke 17:19, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Pierius, at the moment the IGP etc is very inactive, so there simply is nothing to write about. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:54, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe we can stop writing negative articles over all, we are a very small group of people and I think we should start focussing of working together to make this country and this project as good as it can be!! Jon Johnson 21:41, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

hey
I don't think i've ever spoken with you but hey ummm your party page doesn't say much but i know your conservative...hiMarcus Villanova 22:17, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, I am one of the few right Lovians :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 05:17, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Notice the wordplay  06:50, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I know, that's why I said it ;) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 06:51, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yuri does it all the time (in real life), but with the word "left" :p. There is nothing left, and when talking about directions: Left is always good.  06:55, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wa :P I'll go to school now, so have a nice day :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 06:57, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Same for you! 06:59, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Danke sjoean :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 06:59, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

LOWIA+LD
See TNCT. I just saw that our current programmes are almost entirely the same. What do you think about a fusion? If you accept abortus and euthanasia, we accept Oceana as a official language? Together we is stronger ;) Bucurestean 13:38, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Awnt think that nesavicelost ku crew o'Hurbanoft prede dwah rock. Thu? :P Bucurestean 14:04, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Donawt that same if a lesten dober de tshe thu povedat :P Po that fusion: a thank i's save de form thatte. Thu gow mine las, priatel! :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:49, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Very smart buc very always making coalitions...maybe PD and the WLP should too actually if you think about it the PD and the WLP are the most alike and the list and LD are most alike so... yay hope things go well!(Health care for all!)Marcus Villanova 22:22, March 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Party fusing is a good thing if programs are indeed similar, but I'm afraid that isn't the case for the PD and WLP. 09:05, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Full adaptation
If the fusion deal is done, which I suppose it is, could you (OWTB, Harold, Bucu, anyone) please adapt both party pages? And I will create a new image of the Congress composition. Just make these pages up to date. 12:53, March 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but how should the party be called after the fusion? --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:41, March 27, 2010 (UTC)