User talk:Ooswesthoesbes/Arsjief 2



Arsjief

Judicial Reform Pro Votes
Have you taken a look at the judicial reform proposal again yet? I don't think you've read my other comments farther up, so I'll post it at the bottom. Please reconsider: I've fixed the activity things that Semyon mentioned. Unless you actually are opposed to the jury, then I think it'll be good for pro votes. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 00:00, January 6, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, please delete this file: File:22px-Flag of Australia.svg-1-.png Wabba gave it a bad name. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:06, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Deleted. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:16, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

RE: I don't get it
-- 17:00, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) The wiki is boring.
 * 2) Everyone votes for people who can't even spell. Most are inactive people. WTF?
 * 3) This wiki is messed up.
 * 4) I'm withdrawing from PL soon anyway. (if needed)
 * 5) Encouraging people to vote should be fraud.
 * 6) I can't be taken seriously...
 * Of course you are taken seriously, but if you think the wiki is boring I don't see why you are making a problem of it. Of it is boring, it'll remain so. Even if you get 7 seats instead of 5.. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:01, January 8, 2012 (UTC)

I'll change one of my votes so that its for you, if you cast a vote for me. I have a minor and a support, a vote for a vote. Message me back if you are interested. --— Christopher Costello (Pikapi • Chat  • What's up ) 15:58, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think your coalition needs that vote more than I do. And anyway, if I'd spend my third vote on myself, the result will not change anything. So, just because it's easier, I'm not interested. Though I'd surely like to see you in Congress this year, but my fellow conservatives need that third vote more than I do :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:02, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Concours
Hey Oos. Would you be interested in entering (or perhaps even being a judge) in the 2012 Charleston Beach Concours d'Elegance? HORTON11 : •  18:12, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, as it is held in April, I think I might find a brand to represent Mäöres :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:14, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * That would be grat. The more variation in brands and countries would be better. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 18:18, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Good, count me in I'd say :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:18, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oos, the LordUnderpants guy needs a block. Would you oblige? :) --Semyon 21:48, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Probably not, I'll see what he's done. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 04:10, January 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, he stopped after the warning, so blocking him would break the site rules. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 04:17, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

EastWest takeover
Would you mind if Villanova Inc. takes over the service and makes it active again? Marcus/Michael Villanova 13:25, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, the idea of EastWest is that both music in Lovia and Mäöres are used. If you take it over, could you please give me guarantees that I can keep updating the Mäöres part of the service? --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:43, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * No prob. Marcus/Michael Villanova 14:13, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, you can have it then :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 20:49, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Londis
Have you saved the logo of Londis on your computer? MartijnM 12:11, January 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm now on my laptop, so I'll upload it tomorrow or so. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:04, January 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * How you make logos? Wabba The I 18:19, January 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * You don't want to know :P Most people here use photoshop, but I'm old-fashioned and still use Paint :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:32, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Do you know my address? MartijnM 16:08, January 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Lovian, e-mail or home? :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:56, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Boeken en CD's
Weet jij hoe je een cover van een cd of boek maakt? Wabba The I 15:04, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ik pak gewoon paint en hou 'n CD voor 't beeldscherm, pas daar de grootte van 't bewerkingsvlak op aan en teken vlug wat rotzooi :P Ik denk dat je dit beter in de Forum:The Pub kunt vragen :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:05, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Following Pages
Hello Oos, how do I turn off the "follow this page" thing? It keeps spamming me with e-mails. I don't like it. Daembrales 17:15, January 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Go to "Preferences" > "Email" and disable "...a page I'm following is changed" under the "Email me when.." section. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:51, January 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, i forgot this. I've selected those now. Daembrales 13:23, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Votes
Major to Krosby, Minor to Breyev, Support to Hoffman. Thanks! Daembrales 13:23, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll add them. I think Daembrales can add tonight (in EST) because that's when he joined according to his contribs, but wth. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 13:56, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:42, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Should we close voting? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:44, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, everybody's voted now. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:45, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll do that. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:47, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:58, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Hey Oos, theres an idea for a Conservative-Libertarian Coalition. The Base Parties would be CCPL, LDP, CNP, PL. Then the other conservatives like Breyev would be part of the coalition too. Timemaster is also optimistic about Labour maybe coming across. We think that you would be a good and fair PM. Kunarian 17:36, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks very acceptable to me :) Anyway, experience learns us that when it comes to voting bills in the Second Chamber, party politics fades away, including coalitions :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:40, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Very true, it does seem that coalitions serve only to choose PM's. I think that maybe Lovia's better off that way, not being so obessed as other nations with party politics. Kunarian 17:43, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed, it leads to people being more aware of what they're actually voting for and better reflecting the laws that are being voted. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:45, January 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree with that. Also, User:TimeMaster/Ministries. I think my reform is good. Unless you want animal welfare under justice. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:44, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Animal welfare might become a breaking point I see ;) No, I think you did a great job :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:46, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * We need to start making a deal with all politicians on the posts is what I meant. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 23:55, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ow :P Well, I thought Costello already made some kind of overview if I'm right.. Otherwise we'll just have to begin from scratch. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:19, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Citizen
Now that I have the requirements, can I become one? I am Lucy Austira, female, and live in Drake Town on 26 Danish Avenue. Daembrales 21:38, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Hi! Sorry I was inactive. I am Lucy Austira, female, and my residence is 26 Danish Avenue in Drake Town, Hurbanova, Oceana. Daembrales 00:12, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, thank you. I'll add you to the register. Consider yourself a citizen from now on :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:14, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Wikify
Wat kan ik doen om pagina's niet meer laten 'wikify' moeten zijn? Je weet wel wat ik bedoel. Wabba The I 11:38, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ik ga 't wel efkes oplossen. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 11:44, January 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Dus meer afbeeldingen (o.a. seals)? Wabba The I 11:56, January 25, 2012 (UTC)

Wat?
Wat is het beste van de overige zes functies die ik nog kan hebben? Wabba The I 11:23, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Your bot
Could you please use your bot to placce information on this on user talk pages? Pierlot McCrooke 18:27, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

I oppose this, all it would do is annoy some inactive users, who would ignore it. Maybe just post manually on a couple semi-active peoples' pages. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:35, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Then you might as well do it manually. Using a bot on not wiki-specified pages is more work than doing it by hand. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:09, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations Mr. Prime Minister!
 * Thanks :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:29, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Bick Building
I wanted to expamd on it's contents Pierlot McCrooke 12:29, February 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Then I advise you to simply start from scratch. Anyway, the tower is no longer located anywhere, so it's probably not interesting. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:33, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Image names
Hi Oos, could you rename File:Adoha.png? It is a picture of the new adoha elementary school board, but its name is horrible and needs to be moved, since it's (way) too vague. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 19:24, February 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 20:02, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

English
Perhaps we could say that -se words were changed back to -ce in Lovian English? I prefer -ce as well. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:19, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Noooooooo. You don't spell defensive with a "c", so why would you spell defense that way. HORTON11 : •  22:39, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Because that's the way it was originally spelled, and if it weren't for an idiotic Noah Webster who decided to randomly change a few words, it still would. And anyway, if it were an s, we wouldn't have an need for the e. There is no vowel having its sound changed. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:46, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

The problem is, that if you create rules like these, they must be written down ( ALL OF THEM ) and for a language like English (which has one of the most sucking spellings ever on the entire earth) that's a lot of work. So, it's up to you: British or American. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:55, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

British, then. :D Or, again, we could just make an exception for -ce/-se words. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 12:02, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

It would be quite cool to have a hybrid Lovian system (if we did, misuse of the letter k in words of French origin should be banned. 'Grotesk' is such a grotesque way of spelling 'grotesque'.) --Semyon 17:56, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

People should be free to spell however they like. Personally I support the American way, though. HORTON11 : •  18:01, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

I agree, but I don't think American spelling is linguistically correct. On the other hand it is probably a lot simpler. --Semyon 18:09, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

It is correct, I believe, and more modern that the British way. And, it makes more sense. HORTON11 : •  18:13, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Lol, just realised grotesk isn't actually an American spelling, just something I've seen on the internet a few times. I'm glad, because that would be truly horrendous. --Semyon 19:20, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

I think both Englishes have good points. 'Colour' and 'color' for instance are etymologically equally acceptable, whereas American 'skeptic' and British 'kerb' are in my opinion not, compared to their counterparts 'sceptic' and 'curb'. --Semyon 19:36, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

I didn't know you tommies spelt skeptic with a "c". American spelling is a watered down version of the British way (program is w/o the mme). But you know what I hate the most, when center and meter are spelt with an re. HORTON11 : •  20:04, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I find that really important, because otherwise there's ambiguity between a (gas) meter and a (measuring) metre. But if I'm honest American spellings aren't that bad, I just react to them because I'm not used to them. :) --Semyon 20:11, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

@TM: Or, we could just spell all -se/-ce words as -s. --Semyon 20:16, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Metre is a French word. The -er ending is very important to me (and the US), unlike in Canada where Quebec has an unfair influence and has changed the english spelling to re. HORTON11 : •  20:19, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Unlike some cases such as 'color/colour' where the Americans make a very good case, I don't think there is much justification for the spelling 'meter' (for the measurement). At least 'color' is actually the way the word was spelt in Latin, whereas 'meter' doesn't have any etymological basis. Admittedly it's equally unjustified for (gas) meter in both Englishes, but in that case Webster should have changed both forms to 'metre', and like I said, I like not having the ambiguity in British English. --Semyon 21:33, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

I already see this is going to be a spelling war :P I'll soon write an article about Lovian spelling. I'm sure we can get this sorted out :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:50, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Can you switch to contra, please? Marcus wants to add the the names into the act, but I prefer keeping it as "recognition of existing localities" that is not in the federal law. What do you think? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:58, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

the -re ending is a unneeded frenchism, I must say. Pierlot McCrooke 16:06, February 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't mind either, but I can't stand people in favor of -le but against -re. Very hypocritical... and make sure to read my previous comment. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:08, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Um... can you move Plains back to Sjors's userspace? I really want it moved to the north of Asian Island--not Truth Island, as it was previously. For some reason, Adoha was moved to Truth Island several months ago. Thereby I have proposed that Plains be moved the north of Asian Island. I also made a proposal which also fixed other things here: User:TimeMaster/Plains. Also, the main reason Jeff wants Plains to be on Truth Island is for it to be served by Adoha Regional Airport, which I find quite silly. So please consider using my version of Plains. Thanks! —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 12:55, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey, as Plains was initially Sjors's hamlet, I do prefer using his page history. So, just copy the contents of your page to Plains, mentioning User:TimeMaster/Plains in the edit summary and it's fine. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:17, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

PSO
Look in the first chamber, just seeing what the people think about the bill. It's number 008. Marcus/Michael Villanova 13:26, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * OK. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:51, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

You should vote against the NSO. It doesn't do anything useful, just makes another page to write them at when we already have Template:Places. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:31, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * No, places does not include hamlets and neighborhoods. We need to have them official. Anyways, who (except for you :P) cares about yet another page? :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:32, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Exactly, thank you. I'mma start to ring up support and contact all congressmen. Marcus/Michael Villanova 16:34, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * It does include hamlets, and you can just see the neighborhoods by looking at the pages of cities or even the page neighborhood. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:35, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * I will change to pro and formalize the law. It's horrible right now. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 16:36, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry TM, but I disagree. We need an in-law reference to all officially recognized places. Template:Places simply does not suffice. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:38, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. ^_^ Marcus/Michael Villanova 16:40, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Would you move this image: File:Images.jpg to another name? It is not a good name. Marcus actually had another image from his Thousand Apples town that had the same file name (Images.jpg), so now a picture of apples is the FC Villanova logo. Very weird... —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 18:57, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 06:10, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Ambox
Hi. Can you add the following to MediaWiki:Common.css? Thanks in advance. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:08, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

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/* Ambox small text */ .amsmalltext { font-size: smaller; margin-top:0.5em; margin-left:0.8em; } /* Ambox image */ .ambox-image {                         /* The left image cell */ width: 60px; padding: 2px 0px 2px 0.5em;           /* 0.5em left, 0px right */ text-align: center; }

(end copy) —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:08, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll do. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:13, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Malfunction
Aargh, it didn't work. I'll try to find a non-css solution, in the mean time, can you undo the modification you made? Once you've undone it, add this to the bottom: —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:23, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

/* === Template:Ambox designs === */ /* Ambox design */ .ambox { font-size: 95%; width: 80%; margin: 0 auto; border: 1px #AAA solid; border-left: 10px solid #228b22; border-collapse: collapse; background-color: #EEE; } /* Ambox colours */ .ambox-blue { border-left: 10px solid #1e90ff;      /* Blue (notice) */ } .ambox-red { border-left: 10px solid #b22222;      /* Red (delete/serious) */ } .ambox-orange { border-left: 10px solid #f28500;      /* Orange (content) */ } .ambox-yellow { border-left: 10px solid #f4c430;      /* Yellow (style) */ } .ambox-purple { border-left: 10px solid #9932cc;      /* Purple (merge) */ } .ambox-gray { border-left: 10px solid #bba;         /* Gray (protection) */ } .ambox-green { border-left: 10px solid #228b22;      /* Green */ } /* Ambox small text */ .ambox-smalltext { font-size: smaller; margin-top:0.5em; margin-left:0.8em; } /* Ambox image */ .ambox-image {                         /* The left image cell */ width: 60px; padding: 2px 0px 2px 0.5em;           /* 0.5em left, 0px right */ text-align: center; } @media print { .ambox { display: none; } } /* no ambox when printing */

Good luck! you'll need it :S --Semyon 14:24, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Um, just saying... since you didn't undo your old edit, you might have pasted over incorrectly. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:26, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually I did undo my old edit using "undo" in the history screen, and I immediately pasted the new version over. You should take in account that the server needs time to clear the cache. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:27, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, since you pasted it correctly, I then thought the server was lagging. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:36, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know how long it's going to take, but if it still malfunctions we should have a back-up plan. I personally don't like too complicated templates, so I can't help you with the current whatever it's called syntax thing, but I can simplify it on an OWTB manner :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 16:06, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Another
I also want to make some good templates for the licensing. Can you replace MediaWiki:Licenses with this? Thanks. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:16, February 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Unknown:
 * No license|I don't know the license
 * Own photo:
 * Self|I took this photo myself
 * Self-M|I did not take this photo myself, but I modified this photo myself, and the original allows derivative works
 * Wikimedia:
 * From Wikimedia|I got this from the Wikimedia Commons or another Wikimedia project
 * Copyleft:
 * CC-BY-SA|This is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License
 * CC-BY-NC-ND|This is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs License
 * GFDL|This is licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License
 * Other free|This is licensed under another free license
 * Copyright:
 * Fairuse|This will be used in a way that qualifies as fair use under US law
 * Permission|This is copyrighted, but use is permitted by the copyright holder
 * Other:
 * PD|This is in the public domain
 * N-A|This does not qualify to be licensed or copyrighted
 * Done. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:21, February 17, 2012 (UTC)

Delete Request
I must have been on some drugs or something but i created the Lovian State Rugby Sevens, awhile ago, please delete it, we already have the Van Franken Cup so please delete the LSRS. Thank you. Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:00, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey, perhaps you could first move some information to Van Franken Cup, f.e. "Rules and differences from regular Rugby" and "Teams". --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:09, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Will do. :D Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:11, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. I'll delete the old page. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:18, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Magical powers
Teach me the magical powers. Please?
 * I suspect this is Jeffwang. :P --Semyon 16:42, March 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes :( I have also a message. Look on my user page. Wabba The I 16:54, March 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it, your edits are good, I think. Whoever he is, the guy's an idiot. :) --Semyon 16:55, March 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * Me of Jeff? Wabba The I 17:03, March 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * The guy about the magical powers. Anyway, I'm a Christian so magical powers are not fine with me :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 11:11, March 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Me an idiot no way dude no way. Magical powers should be shared for sake of the humanity. The huminaty, dude! Teach us of wise and blessed one!
 * Please find other people to annoy. If you can contribute, please log into an account. IP-addresses are not welcome in a Wikination-type setting. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:26, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Wabba images
Wabba is uploaded flag thumbnails that are precisely 22 pixels wide... would you take a look at the upload log, reprimand Wabba, and delete all the tiny thumbnail images he's uploaded? Thanks. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:23, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'll do my best. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:59, March 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, I don't think he uploaded them. I'll test how the new editor works exactly this week so I can see how it treats images that are made smaller. First downloading an image, then making it the exact size, and then uploading it again would be an awful job to do. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:04, March 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * There is for instance not a (Dutch: sjabloon) for the flag of Greece. I have upload a picture of the flag of greece. Wabba The I 11:37, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

I think he just drags the 22 pixel icons on Wikipedia pages instead of clicking the image and getting the 2000 pixel image. Wabba, then do not upload a small image. Get a 2000px image. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 12:01, March 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah yeah, that could be possible. But it doesn't explain why there are also small images of seals like the one of Mandarin Village or a smaller version of male.png (or whatever the name of that image might be). --O u WTBsjrief-mich 07:14, March 8, 2012 (UTC)

Supreme Court Judge
Hey, could you consider nominating a character to become on of three Supreme Court Judges here? (btw: if you plan to bring a court case in the near future, please don't do it, because that causes problems.) Thanks. :) --Semyon 10:11, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Deletion
Hi, can you run through Category:Candidates for deletion and delete the pages, please? Thanks in advance. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:25, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 07:11, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey, I deleted all pages which had valid reasons. Could you specify what's wrong with the other pages? --O u WTBsjrief-mich 07:23, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * They either don't make sense in the Lovian universe, or are part of the Prince James thing we added a while back. Now I realize that he was not a good idea. I suppose they could be moved back to Horton's namespace. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 10:51, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Those pages are well written and shouldn't be deleted. We already added them, and they should not be deleted just cause you said so. If there's enough consesnsus thn they can be removed. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 10:55, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, we never had consensus in the first place, it was just between us and maybe TMV. Now that I've withdrawn support there are only two supporters. So it should be moved back to your namespace. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:41, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Let's just see if there are others who support/not support this. We added them in good faith since the royal family was ridiculously small. Honestly it's not worth deleting them since there are many pages that would have to be fixed. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 15:08, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well if Dimi, his nephew, niece and brother all have two to three children in the next ten years, the royal family will no longer be "ridiculously small". And there is also the illegimate branch of the family that has no rights to the throne but is a part of the family tree. The Royal Family is very unlikely to die out any time soon. The glorious First Consul of Rome 15:17, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * If the legitimate part somehow dies out, we have them as backup. :D —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:12, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

I suggest we restore the royal family to the dimi situation Pierlot McCrooke 16:29, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * We just did. The Line of Succession is exactly like it was when Dimitri was still around, plus one baby that Dimi's nephew had. Horton added some people from Brunant but they have now been removed. This discussion was about deleting those pages, Pierlot. You're far behind. The glorious First Consul of Rome 19:36, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Dimi's cousin, not nephew. You're thinking of Prince Sebastian, I believe. I agree with Pierlot, though I have no problem with the addition of Joseph and Alice (and Sebastian's marriage). —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:11, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry for not knowing the entire family tree from top of my head. Come to think of it, the family tree is pretty small so I probably should, lol... but anyway, Dimi married, his cousin married, one day his brother will marry and so will his niece, eventually. It's keeping the family safe from extinction yet at the same time we can safely assume the family is never going to become super big. It grows, but very slowly. Lovian style. The glorious First Consul of Rome 20:26, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * And perhaps his other two (three if you count that old bachelorette) cousins, as well. But, I worry if the wiki will survive until the thirties. I'll probably still come on in 2030 to update the royal family. So are we agreed that James is not needed? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:39, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * James is not needed, no. But I don't think keeping him is harmful either. You can always say that he is anti-monarchy and stepped out of the Royal Family together with his descendents. You can do that, you know. For example: he could have married a commoner. Right into the 20th century, such a thing could get you kicked out of the LoS of the British throne, for example. We can change the story of his life a bit, if his inventor wants to keep him. For reality's sake. The glorious First Consul of Rome 20:43, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

Guys, deleting characters is not as easy as it seems. They can die, but they can't be simply wiped out from history unless they do not fit in. There was a consensus when they were created, so they fitted in when they were created. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:52, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * One problem is that James's lines are all chaotic now because earlier Horton had tried to make his main characters part of the royal family. That was denied, so now we also have plenty of uncreated pages. They feel as though they were just tacked on to the royal family without much thought. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 10:50, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * We could re-write the story of James' personal life and his family, couldn't we? One option would be that he never married his girlfriend so that none of his children are prince's or princesses. He would still be here, but he would have no impact on the LoS. The glorious First Consul of Rome 12:34, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

Reminder
I think you said you would propose a judge candidate, and I'm very eager to see that you don't forget. :P --Semyon 16:50, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ow yeah :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:11, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Love for the life 2
Too bad, I thought you were able to appreciate some jokes about Limburg, which weren't even personal attacks. But okay. 212.187.55.95 14:59, April 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Usually a joke is funny. I think that's the definition of a joke. How can you call the bullshit you've spammed all over the site a joke? It's an insult to comedy and humour in general. The glorious First Consul of Rome 16:02, April 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Who says everyone has the same humor? The fact that your lifestyle is emo-like, doesn't mean everyone's lifestyle is either so ;) But also here, I'll be the greater one if I have to. I'll only look out to OWTB's reaction. 212.187.55.95 20:38, April 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * The stuff you posted wasn't funny at all, it was just idiotic. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:50, April 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Are you Dutch? If you aren't, you won't get it at all. By the way, may I ask who the hell you are? And why you are interfering in all the discussions I have with OTHER people? 212.187.55.95 17:34, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Of course I'm not Dutch. I don't see anyone else laughing. I interfere in your "discussions" with other people (more like personal attacks) all the time because I hate you. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:45, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Delete image?
Could you delete Map.png please? I uploaded it under a really stupid name. Thanks, :) --Semyon 12:27, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Done :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:52, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

Upload
Haha, the jester and I thank thee! ;) Echo cho 08:45, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:02, May 19, 2012 (UTC)

Please
Please can I use the simplified map on Noble City, I'll change the words and stuff but I am really need it for my wiki.  ~Happy65   Talk My Amazing Blogs !  18:17, May 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure, why not? :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:20, May 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * Do I need to give you any attribution?  ~Happy65   Talk My Amazing Blogs !  18:33, May 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * If you want to :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:41, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Can you please vote in my big poll? It is attempt to raise awareness about the inactivity in the Lovia and to make the place vibrant again. please do::: User:Guangcheng/Babe Battles! Guangcheng VOTE! 14:33, June 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Pleaaase
 * Hey, though I appreciate your concerns about inactivity and your will to do something against it, I am not going to vote because of my Christian beliefs. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:26, June 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * O yes I understand. I am a christian as well. Guangcheng VOTE! 10:39, June 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * This sort of reminds of the incident when Pierlot said the seal and flag of Clymene were offensive because they featured (and still feature) a drawing of a nude Greek goddess . So, OWTB, you're in good company ;). DimiTalen 17:14, June 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's really funny. I read somewhere that in 1916 they made a US quarter with Lady Liberty showing her breast and people were so offended that they covered it up the next year. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:19, June 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Why does that not surprise me! Americans do tend to be rather prudish, I must say. Not everyone, obviously, but still, many people. DimiTalen 17:20, June 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * (Found an article about the coin you talked about: link) DimiTalen 17:21, June 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * I know. In my sister's collection her american banknotes are all very classical, but she has Dutch notes of the 80s with barcodes! I guess the US is not very pro-change. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:35, June 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, in several things the US is the world's pioneer, and in others it is indeed very conservative. As I come to think of it: the things the US is pioneering in, are mostly related to consumerism. Like supermarkets. 100% American concept, exported all over the world. If there's a new trend in supermarkets, it still originates in the States and is then exported to Europe. That's kind of interesting, I think. DimiTalen 17:59, June 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * : There's a lot to say but the seal really is edgy... C'mon guys, there are Clymene children worshipping their state's seal :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:00, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Sympathy
All of a sudden, my sympathy for you quadrupled ;). DimiTalen 12:45, June 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm unimpressed. (actually, that spelling is one of the few Americanisms I don't mind. :P) --Semyon 13:50, June 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hahahah, well, we have to stick to our regulations è :P And I agree with Semyon, -re is just there to give it a French touch. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:38, June 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * And we know how you think about that ;). DimiTalen 08:41, June 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hahaha, we could liberate English of all loanwords as well :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:42, June 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * There wouldn't be much left . You would basically have to go back to before 1066. And even then! "There were at least three notable periods of Latin influence. The first occurred before the ancestral Angles and Saxons left continental Europe for Britain. The second began when the Anglo-Saxons were converted to Christianity and Latin-speaking priests became widespread." So uhm . What about reconstructing PIE? DimiTalen 11:02, June 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * I read something about a 'Germanic substrate hypothesis' that suggests up to third of words in Germanic languages come from non-PIE roots. So yeah, throwing out loanwords might not be that practical. ;) --Semyon 11:11, June 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * GSH has already been thrown in the dust-bin by most Germanists. And yes, we would have to get rid of words like cheese and butter in extreme cases :P Personally, I think going back some 1000 years will only improve the legibility, credibility, and beauty of the English language :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 11:13, June 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not so sure it would be a practical improvement, but I'm damn sure it would be a nice challenge xD. If it doesn't work out, however, we can always try to revive Gothic. Sounds pretty gorgeous . DimiTalen 11:41, June 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * We could make it even easier: adopt Limburgish as official world language. It can't get any more gorgeous than that :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 11:42, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Interest in Lovian Catholic Institutions
Hey man. I just wanted you to know that I've been thinking about politics and society a lot more in general recently, and of course that means that Costello has too. I was recently considering the lack of catholic-based education programs in Lovia, and who better to voice my concerns to than the leader of the CCPL himself? I had the idea to establish more catholic schools across Lovia. If you'd be willing to help, I'd be willing to contribute a great deal to the project financially. What do you say? — Christopher Costello  (Pikapi • Chat  • What's up ) 23:57, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure, what kind of schools did you have in mind? The current laws block the option to create religious educational institutes except for afterhours and Sunday schools. So you could create such schools, or try to change the law :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:45, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your spelling correction. :P --Semyon 09:02, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Gaer gedaon :P I still have a sweaty forehead because of it :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:04, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome message. I just want to know about the photos used in this wiki. Are they taken from real-life people, places, buildings etc? Or you create them? And how you do this?
 * Hey, we take them from Wikipedia (though a few might be created by ourselves). If we see a nice image we think we can use, we simply download them from Wikipedia and upload them here :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 11:56, August 23, 2012 (UTC)

Novosevensk
I'm sure you had a good reason, but I don't understand the reason for your edit to the Novosevensk page.

The name consists of three morphemes: Novo-seven-sk, meaning New-Seven-town, in just the same way that Novo-sibir'-sk means new-Siberia-town. actually -sk is just a generic ending for a place name, so I better correct that :/

Why the extra -s-? It creates a weird spelling and also suggests that the word Seven is pluralised, which makes little sense. That sentence was already phrased badly, so I shall rewrite it, but I was just wondering if I had missed something. --Semyon 17:59, September 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Woop... Because of all that rugby shit I forgot the state was called Seven and not Sevens... :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:29, September 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * That should probably have occurred to me. :P --Semyon 18:50, September 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hahaha :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 03:20, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

The discussion in the pub reminded me of something: on my list in the NCO there are two women listed as CCPL members. I don't know if you were aware of that, but it puts CCPL in a slightly contradictory position, so feel free to kick them out. :P I won't be offended - well, I might pretend to be, but I won't. :P --Semyon 12:05, September 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually three, including Dalia Donia. I'm aware of this, but CCPL did a reform about a year ago which allows women to become member, so it should be alright. As long as they only form a minor percentage though :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:21, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

Oceana lit
Hey Oos! I was wondering: is there a historic/timeless Oceana tale or legend out there, sort of like Adenis and Virsise? HORTON11 : •  20:23, September 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, Barzuna is of course way older than Oceana, so the literature is still a developing thing. The Hrádverse could be seen as the beginning of Oceana literature. George Ský Translation is often cited as the first text. Probably the best-known work is Jonas Hladovka's Michal Hlán series. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:14, September 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Perhaps this could be another issue for the IWO: the preservation and sharing of literature from and among the member states. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 15:11, September 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's a good idea. We've got the IWO Department of Culture for that. In case of Brunant-Mäöreser relations that would be MMunson and Bart K . --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:16, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

SE Parti fo Nesavicelost 'Oshenna
I think it would be a good case to give a few percentages to this party after the elections if nobody decides to run for separatism. It will keep a certain balance in the Oceana politics, don't you think? --Bart K (talk) 06:00, September 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure, I propose to take a look at it after the results are known :) Also, if somebody else is running for Governor in Oceana as well, we should contact him about this too :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:38, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

Unclear
So will you cast your 17 votes in favor of the State legislatures, 31 votes would be half way to the large majority we need Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:31, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, but I can't see the better version in the 2nd Chamber yet. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:33, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * I haven't put it there yet xD i will now, I think Seymon and his six votes are good (why does he only have six, he's a really good user :D) and horton with about 11 i think which gets us to maybe 45/50 depending on others we could maybe get to the needed ammount. Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:37, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, we should all vote for Semyon next elections :P Probably his independent course doesn't really help him :( Alright :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 15:39, September 23, 2012 (UTC)

TNCT interview
TNCT would be interested in an interview with Patrick West about his party, the RTP, if he's not opposed to it. Here are a few questions: That's quite a list, so no need to answer them all; if you want you can just choose the most interesting. :P Obviously, if Mr. West is opposed for political or religious reasons to newspaper interviews, then don't bother. --Semyon 13:07, October 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * According to your party manifesto, God should be made head of state. How should this be carried out in practice: would it be ceremonial, or would a priest fulfil the role on behalf of God, so to speak?
 * RTP coöperates with other conservative Christians in congress. What's the RTP view on coöperation with other parties to pass laws, particularly parties which are far from your views, such as the LDP?
 * How good is your relationship with CCPL? Do you endorse Ilava in the Oceana state elections?
 * What prompted you to break the 100-year old tradition of not participating in elections?
 * Does the party have a particular official denomination, or is it ecumenical? If so, can members belong to other Christian groups? What about members who are not Christian at all?
 * What is the main electoral support base for the RTP? (not only geographically, other factors like age too)
 * One of the most interesting policies is the splitting of the Church of Oceana from the Catholic Church. What are your reasons for this? Does this idea have support among Lovian Catholics, in your opinion? How would such a church be different doctrinally and in organisation to its current form?
 * What are your main achievements as chairman of the RTP?
 * What are your main achievements in Congress?
 * What are your goals, as a party, for the future?
 * Overall, is your view on the future of Lovian Christianity and Christian conservatism in Lovia positive or negative?
 * In general, we're opposed to the media, but we will make an exclusive exception this time as TNCT is our country's leading newspaper.
 * It would be neither. In our opinion, God can be part of our government and his verdict can't be refuted. God is with us.
 * RTP will only vote pro for laws which are going for the Christian course. If we find ourselves unable to coöperate with parties such as LDP, so be it.
 * While our viewpoints are very different, CCPL could be considered a lighter version of the RTP. Therefore we support Ilava in the State Elections.
 * We felt that Lovia was heading the wrong direction and none of the parties that were there represented our ideas. As we only have a small, but stable, voting core, we were unable to break through to Congress until the recent enlargement to 100 seats.
 * As you can read here, our official denomination is Roman Catholic, but we desire a split and the creation of a Oceana Catholic Church. All members have to subscribe to our views. Therefore, they have to be Catholic or at least they have to agree to the proposed split.
 * RTP voters are to be found across the nation, most notably Amish Kinley, Oceana, and East Sylvania. Roughly 75% of our voters is male and most voters are between the age of 25 and the age of 50. --Patrick West
 * The rest'll follow, I'll have to go out and drink beer :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 21:20, October 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * The rest:
 * The main reason - among financial reasons - is the fact that the Roman Catholic Church embraces modernism. RTP believes that a split would result into lower prices for masses and baptism. In general, we do not have support among Lovian Catholics but a growing group of Oceana Catholics desire this split. Support among Oceana Catholics is what we need, as we only desire to break off the Oceana part of the Roman Catholic Church.
 * My main achievement as chairman of course is making the party ready for the Federal Elections and winning a seat so our voice can be heard in all of Lovia.
 * Our major achievements have been the labor act and keeping off a military in Lovia.
 * We are fully aware it is difficult to get things passed in Congress. Though we can count on occassional support from CCPL, all other parties lie at the other side of the political spectrum, so our goal is to get more seats in Congress. Plans for the future include subsidies for women who want to be a housewife instead of working, illegalization of prostitution, and a better public transportation system.
 * With the coming of a new series of immigrants from Europe, America, and Mäöres and the revitalization of Christian morals and believes in Oceana, we can see Lovian Christianity is a booming business. Lovia was known as one of the most atheist countries in the world, but now, the Christian and Christian-based parties have 27 seats in Congress. I have to say that not all voters on Christian parties are in fact Christian, just as not all Christians vote for a Christian party, but a general trend can be concluded. Though I cannot tell whether Christianity is peeking right now or whether it's just the beginning, I can tell that religious tolerance among all groups of Lovia is growing and people look for consessions to please both demographic groups.
 * We like the efforts of CCPL concerning the marriage act and the abortion act, but it is not enough. Christian conservatism doesn't mean anything in Lovia. We can see Amish Kinley as perhaps the only place which is truely conservative, but it isn't that strange. Living the Christian way of life is difficult in modern-day society. There are temptations everywhere and it is practically impossible for women not to work without starving their families. The future looks promising though; last elections we've gone up about 0,2%, so maybe there is a second seat for us soon. RTP is the only true Christian conservative party and we stand for our principles: Christianity, family, and above all we stand for God.
 * --Patrick West 10:25, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

Lovian Financial Times Interview
I would've liked to do an interview with Mr Ilava on many matters both economic and those tied to economics, nothing mad but I'd be happy to post pone it if you feel that Semyons interview would be enough of the media asking after you for one day. :L Kunarian (talk) 14:53, October 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Haha. Oos, you're a celebrity! :P --Semyon 17:59, October 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah well, if you don't send me your questions I can't give you my answers è :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 21:05, October 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * I will don't worry, I've just been in a situation were internet access has been limited, I'll solve it soon. - Kunarian - 90.246.116.233 21:15, October 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem, we've all been through that I believe :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 21:22, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

Hello Mr Ilava my name is Tyler Smith from the Lovian Financial Times newspaper and I'd like to ask you some questions about Lovia and it's economy and things related. The big focus of this interview is the plan for Lovia in the future. Right okay, answer in your own time I may throw a new question in but nothing too random:

General Questions

Thank you for your time Mr Ilava, it'd be nice if you could give as full an answer as possible for the Lovian populace. - Tyler Smith - Kunarian (talk) 13:26, October 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Lovia nowadays always seems to be bogged down by huge corporations, whether it's the receeding Kameron Industries or the new and upcoming Costello Enterprises, these corporations always seem to be on top giving the little man who has dreams of owning his own corner store a little bit more than shattered. Do you think the big corporations in Lovia are a problem? and how do you deal with people who can't start business because of them?
 * 2) In the civil war Train Village was hit hard, it's quite a beat down place at the moment and has a severe unemployment problem, although both right and left wing parties promised to solve the problem in their own ways, Labour has failed to receive support for it's plans and the CNP plans were considered over the top. Do you think Train Village needs help? and if so what kind of help?
 * 3) In the past parties such as CPL.nm and now the Labour party have spoken about big nationalisation within Lovia. However what we've ended up with is just another semi-monopoly on power by Ecompany (whose growth has stopped) which has put some people off of the idea of nationalisation. Do you think nationalisation of industries is good? and if so what do you think should be nationalised?
 * 4) We've seen in the past the growth of Lovia's tourism industry, the industry that took the biggest hit when the recession came as less people were willing to spend money to come to Lovia, meanwhile manufacturing has been more stable leading people to believe it's a better way forwards. What is your opinion on the importance of the tourism industry? and is manufacturing the way forwards?
 * 5) The US dollar has been causing problems for Lovia recently, with Inflation rampant in the US and thus the Lovian dollar losing worth every day making the price of simple goods high and causing people to lose their savings, people are becoming uncertain as to whether pegging our dollar to their dollar was a good idea. Do you think we should do anything about this? and if so what should we do?
 * Sure, no problem:
 * As you might know, CCPL is a regionalist party. We believe that regional companies are closer to the customer than the big corporations. These big corporations, however, have bought up small companies on a large scale. As of now, I can't speak of a case in which a smaller business was outcompeted. As long as this is the situation, unfortunately, we can't prohibit it: it's up to the owners of the smaller company. A good plan to - at least - slow down this process, is making it more attracting to set up small business and giving smaller businesses taxation relief.
 * Train Village is a tough case. People like to search easy answers to difficult situations. Train Village's problems lived way before the Civil War. We all know the efforts of mr. Latin who "fixed up" the town. It gave a positive impulse, but unfortunately the town fell inactive again. Politically, there is little we can do I'm afraid. I could make empty promises, but in the end we all know that TV will only get better if there is someone who embraces it and is willing to work hard on it.
 * CCPL stands for a midway between privatisation and nationalisation. Public services, such as public transportation, national security and health (police, fire department, hospitals), and water/energy supplies should be governable by the Government. Though I'd like to stress that privat initiative is the key to success. External companies should be able to f.e. run the bus service in Oceana, but the State of Oceana should be able to intervene if the external company messes up things. You could call it semi-nationalisation. This way, the market remains open while it remains controllable.
 * I don't have a chrystal ball; as far as I can tell, you should never make a bet on one horse. The tourism sector indeed took a big hit, but it is still there and it is still necessary. Manufacturing in Lovia isn't cheap in comparison with f.e. China or other "new industries". We don't have a very large number of workers available, our living standards are higher, and a green policy is required to keep pollution as low as possible. Therefore, manufacturing industrial products isn't the best way. Lovia has a lot more to offer; take a look at all the "empty areas". We can use the available grounds for farming. Food is the future considering the population growth which is to be expected. For example: Oceana has become one of the new wine exporting areas of the world. Oceana wine is to be found in stores all over the world. We can secure Lovia's future by making optimal use of our land surface.
 * First of all, this is an international crisis. If we want to combat the crisis, all countries must collaborate and change their policies. No more risky spending of millions in "bottomless wells". The economy is not my field of expertise, so I'm not fully sure how the system works.. But using common sense, I'd say we should not peg our currency to another currency, but to resources (as was common prior to the 30's). Resources such as gold increase in value day by day and are a way more stable factor than other currencies. For more info:.
 * --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:28, October 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you Mr Ilava for this insight into how things could work in the future and how they work now. We will be publishing this interview in as full a length as possible and if you have any problems just contact our staff. We look forwards to speaking more with you around the time of the Federal Elections in which we will cover economics while our partner paper the Lovian Times should contact you for more general matters. Have a good day! Kunarian (talk) 14:37, October 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Good, we'll see it arrive :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:44, October 6, 2012 (UTC)

dident work
i left clicked pressed copy went on my own wiki pressed paste and it dident work!The names of the buildings were there but the colour and outlines were not !!!!!!

here is my wiki if you want to do it  http://islandnation.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Random

Masterire (talk) 10:58, October 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Seems to work now :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:59, October 7, 2012 (UTC)

wow thanks!

Masterire (talk) 11:26, October 7, 2012 (UTC)