Forum talk:State elections

Euhm.. a bit late but.. if my hamlet is founded (I'll live there ), could I run too for governor? Alexandru 15:41, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It is late, sorry, and I prefer not to contest my lovely Constitution. You can still vote for Patrick, but I can't admit you to add yourself, I'm sorry. 15:42, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Gerabaldi Grabowski is a Hermit. Is this okay? Sithman8 19:21, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Euh... Why not? 20:56, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Shouldn't these be held again in January 2010? --O u WTB 09:30, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * They will :) 12:54, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * Perfect :) Then Lovia will thrive again soon :) --O u WTB 13:45, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
 * Even in January! :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 07:16, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

New elections
Its time for new state elections. The last one was in 2008 and ever since then, at least two of the five elected state governors have become unactive. BastardRoyale 12:09, July 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * Its important we have state elections ASAP, whatcha say fellow citizens? BastardRoyale 12:10, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * At the end of the summer break. Semyon E. Breyev 15:31, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * That seems fair. However, I am opiniated we should let Congress decide over this. Percival E. Galahad 16:24, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, did I sound like a dictator there? It was the Powers That Be that decided to have new elections, not me. (btw, a minor point: there is a law saying elections must take place every two years, and they are overdue. Isn't Congress' judgement therefore irrelevant? After all, Congress cannot break the law any more than an individual can.) Semyon E. Breyev 18:20, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure Congress' judgement is relevant; it is the only body in Lovia that can decide on elections. In Belgium we have a strange situation where the election procedure violated the constitution, nonetheless they are accepted since the only body capable of ratifying elections is the parliament. The core power of a democracy is that a fair vote is always stronger than some rule written down somewhere. 07:12, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Congress is elected democratically. That the elections have not taken place yet, originates in (1) the lack of government before November 2009, (2) the wish to abolish states, and (3) the fact that I've delayed that process, because of personal issues. I will now push for that reform, and we will soon be able to elect governors. 07:54, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you have to be a member of the congress in order to run for governor, or is congress membership not required? BastardRoyale 08:29, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Not required, you just need to live in the State I believe (that would be logical). 08:43, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * So it is. 08:43, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

It's time to get serious!
Okay so we kinda talked about this in the past but we need to have state elections, We're almost done with state reform and summer Vaca is almost done! So anytime is good for me but what times are good with all you! I say the month of November! I think that we finalize candidate stuff in October and get it all set! Do we need to get this approved by congress? If so were all set! Marcus Villanova WLP 21:28, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, we do. Also, we will have to wait until the entire state reform bill has passed. I will make sure the bill's ready within days. 11:35, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe we can make november work. 14:05, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe October would be even better :) 14:11, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll post a Template poll in the Pub to see what other people want! Marcus Villanova WLP [[Image:Flag of Lovia Small.png|border|20px]] 16:28, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * What about september? Three people so far are in favour of holding the state elections in september. The sooner the better, its time to elect some new people after years of inactivity state wise. Otherwise how can the newbies ever gain experience? BastardRoyale 09:11, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks to the latest reform (the one we're currently voting for) the governors wont be exactly buried in opportunities. 12:09, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the governorship will be a good way to learn to know the Lovians. Get in touch with those who vote for/against you, get familiar with local topics and the things people (don't) care about. Martha Van Ghent 14:06, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

OPENING
Votes open tomorrow at 5 PM European (Amsterdam-Brussels) time. A bit more patience please! Candidacies are now closed. 20:41, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Voting
I would like to vote for Oos Wes Ilava and Medvedev, where can I see which houses I own so that I know for which states I may cast my votes? Dr. Magnus 17:32, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * You can't. You have to search by yourself :( --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:01, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I did. But it seems I am no longer on the list of citizens... Dr. Magnus 18:05, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Mm... Have you made 50 edits after your block? --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:08, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I did. Dr. Magnus 18:10, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I got my citizen right back then. I guess you should ask Dimitri. I think I can use your support very much :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:20, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll ask him. You do need my support, a Christian governor is what Oceana needs, being a Christian state. Dr. Magnus 18:50, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, it's more that if someone else will defeat me I'm gone. For the simple reason that Lovia - as a democratic country - would then fail. You vote on someone who has done something for your state and who will do all he can for your state after/during state elections, if you vote on somebody who is just eager for being governor somewhere and who happens to be in the same party (actually parties/ideology hardly care for the spot of governor, they only care on national level), you are voting from the view of nepotism (vriendjespolitic). And if that's what Lovia is about, I'll be gone :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:54, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I understand your decision. The thing is: some people just get elected because they have a good reputation, not because they have a good campaign, or because they have the right connections or yell fancy words, or make fancy speeches. If you win in Oceana you could really mean something for that state. It needs someone who cares. Not someone who just wants the title. You should see the state of Oceana as a beautiful, graceful princess. Truly worth a magnificant prince. Then some parvenu of low birth asks her hand in marriage. What would the King say? Dr. Magnus 18:59, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I see myself more like the father than the husband of Oceana :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 19:04, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's what I'm saying. I said how would you, as a father, feel if some unworthy person would marry your daughter? You cannot stop it (freedom of choice, democracy, the usual bullshit ) but you wouldn't like it, would you? Just like you would not like an unworthy, unfit governor for Oceana. You are the only one fit for the job. Dr. Magnus 19:09, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hahha :P No, there are more persons I can think of :) Ben Opať was a very good governor until he became inactive and I think people like Alexandru could also do it :) I'm not a bad loser, I simply dislike nepotism :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 19:14, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * He's not running, is he? Dr. Magnus 19:19, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * No :( --O u WTBsjrief-mich 19:20, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Seymon is Independent
I remember I had a convo with him and he said he was an independent, also on the sign up list he's stated as a Independent. I Would change it myself but then what would his logo thing be, like the State seven seal? Marcus Villanova 19:46, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * But he's a member of the CCPL, isn't he? Martha Van Ghent 07:40, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, he told me he wasn't it's on State Elections, Fall 2010 talk page. Marcus Villanova 20:19, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

Missed out
Alright, sorry I've been kinda busy lately, I was a in the runnings, could I still get voted for?-Perryz101 05:30, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Apparently, you didn't place your official candidacy. In which state were you intending to run? Martha Van Ghent 07:39, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I too would have loved to run but the issue concerning my citizenship was not settled in time so its now to late. Or could we still run? Dr. Magnus 14:42, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, the problem is that isn't really fair. If you do not follow the rules here, why would you follow them elsewhere? But actually I don't care :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:04, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * What rules I don't follow? They took away my citizenship because I killed my character but I wanted to replace him by Ygo, whom I made head of the Donia Clan before leaving. Dr. Magnus 17:47, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I was talking about the fact that Perryz101 is too late with his candidacy. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:04, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * true. I hate to put it that way but simply no, if this was IRL elections would happen in one day so you can't just randomly put your name on the ballot...But then again it could be a Write-in vote! Marcus Villanova 20:22, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I was running as a Indpendent as Zackary Bennett, I;ve been busy with my work, but okay.-Perryz101 01:18, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I am sorry the candidacy term is over. I'm afraid we cannot bend the law here. 10:02, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

I like the lay-out, it's great, but maybe it would have been more efficient if we would have used templates for every section. I see people are having difficulties voting because the lay-out gets messed up all the time ;). --Bucu 08:17, October 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * When I voted this morning I got the layout all messed up, could someone fix it (fix it: not revert). BastardRoyale 10:16, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yea, also maybe a write in vote could be allowed? No.!?Marcus Villanova 23:43, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

07/10/2010 - La Quotidienne


--Bucu 19:20, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks nice. How about a little article in LQ? Or are you still on that wikibreak as your userpage suggests? Dr. Magnus 19:24, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * The part I wanted to put on this talk page, but due to a AEC I were unable to succeed in that :P, is now in LQ --Bucu 19:31, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Royalists? Sounds like a cool party!!

Ik denk dat ik me beter alvast zal terugtrekken.. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 21:11, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * what? 21:11, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * There's only one vote difference man :P We've had only 3 out of 14 days! There are many Hurbanovans who still appreciate your work, I'm quite sure about that, the problem is that they've been quite inactive lately. Bucu 21:13, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Het spijt me maar ik heb ook geen zin meer d'rin om de moeite te geven om dit naar het Engels te zitten. Het verbrokt me dat je alleen voor gouverneur gaat om gouverneur te zijn en niet voor de staat zelf. Hij is pas in de staat gaan wonen toen hij z'n kans zag en dat gaat t'r bij mij niet in. Het spijt me. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 21:13, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ik heb ook voor jou gestemd ;), omdat jij de enige echte Oceanan bent. Oceana = jou, het is jouw creatie. Bucu 21:16, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * guys? 21:16, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ik heb t'r kutweinig zin nog voor echt. 't Is gewoon vriendjespolitiek... Het gaat niet om wie het geschiktst is, maar om welke kutzak hier de meeste vriendjes heeft en dat is zéér kwalijk te nemen. Lovia is bij dezen als democratie zwaar mislukt. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 21:17, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * (Daar kom je nu pas achter, ts :P) --Bucu 21:18, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Zo blijkt.. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 21:19, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * De kaart zal ook groen-rood kleuren, geloof me maar (dat doet het eigenlijk al sinds april, als je begrijpt wat ik bedoel). Het gaat erom wie het best georganiseerd is. Op de rechterflank zijn we -én weinig -én verdeeld. Verrassing is dit niet voor me. --Bucu 21:22, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter to me whether the map is green/red with the national elections, but this is ridiculous.. Intothewild has not done anything for Oceana, he doesn't know the state and he doesn't generate anything that points to interest for the state in the near or even the far future. Ik geef t'r zo de brij aan jongens. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 21:24, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

yo man, i know i'm new to state politics. i can't do a thing about that, except participating. i know you got plenty more xperience. so do the king and Yuri, but you're not supporting them are you? i would like to do something for oceana, because it's a nice state. i did not intend to win, never thought we could win. but guess the odds are quite fortunate for us. i'm sorry for you. i still like you as a true Oshennan though. 21:28, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * I am actually quite interested to what your plans as a gouvernor are. It bothers me most not that you are winning, but that you haven't even presented any plans.. And it isn't odds, it's having much friends and buying houses in states. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 21:29, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * i know. sort of bothers me too. generally, it's the Walden gist i'd like to apply to Oceana. respect nature and the everyday people, work on the simplication of stuff, and try to represent the state as a social and engaged one. of course, no big things. but as a gov, there's nothing big I can do. 21:32, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nothing with contents? --O u WTBsjrief-mich 21:33, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * sure, i was thinking of renaming a street or two and restructuring the central neighborhoods of hurbanova. is that what you want to know? 21:34, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * So, demolishing local culture. Already expected that. Restructuring the central neighborhood is practically impossible, because of the state monument service btw. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 21:35, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * no man! reviving it! don't be so negativisticist. by watering the flowers i'm not drowning them, am i? I just want to make parks and streets shine, make hurb accessible to others while honoring local traditions and culture. The Walden spirit. 21:37, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * We'll see.. But I really need to go to bed now, 'cause in a few hours time I have to get up for school :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 21:38, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * okay, i gotta go too :p. I have a class meeting within 3 minutes! 21:39, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Little remark
I will not be at home from October 16 until eh.. let's say October 20, so that's the inauguration date etc. If I might win - or lose - you know I'm in Sweden :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:55, October 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Say hello to the the brunetts for me...oh wait there are none! More or less isn't sweeden a democratic country but very socialist right? Marcus Villanova 19:30, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * It is democratic indeed, like almost every country in Europe. (That is, I hope they are all proper democracies) Them Swedish are just a country with a broad scala of political movements. Communists, socialists, liberals, social-democrats, nationalists, fascists, christian-democrats and so on. In their elections, the fascist party becmae really big, but still much smaller than the Dutch PVV, the racists of Holland (who now hold 21 out of 150 seats in our Tweede Kamer) SjorskingmaWikistad 19:39, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds Scary...I searched it on Wikipedia...Apparently it's Anti-Islamic, and Nationaly Conservative which is a nice word for saying anti-imagration and fascism. Marcus Villanova 19:44, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Which Sweedish fascist party there's like 10! but that's also very scary! Marcus Villanova 19:46, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't forget that the PVV got 5 seats more just because 35% of the Limburgish people voted for Geert :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 07:34, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't get the controversy. He is looked upon as a nazi and if I only jokingly say I agree with him (and on some points, I do) people get hysterious. It's crazy. People are afraid of Geertje, and they shouldn't be; he's not some sorta Adolf the Second or something, he's just plain Geert from Limburg who has the balls to say things out load many other thing but dare not to say. I'll just see how plays his role as part of the new government (sort of) and then I judge him. Dr. Magnus 08:15, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * If we'd all voted for the SGP a long time ago we didn't even have muslims in the Netherlands :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:46, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, it would be: convert or get lost! But the SGP will always have the same number of votes and seats; they won't ever get less or more then they currently have. Unless of course the SGP'ers have a serious babyboom. Dr. Magnus 09:04, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * So you guys suggest the SGPers breed like rabbits in order to have more seats in the Tweede Kamer? LOL. Ever seen the crude birth rate of Staphorst or Katwijk? SjorskingmaWikistad 09:39, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * What about Urk? :D Bucu 09:41, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * They have the largest youth organization of the country :S Bucu 09:08, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's because the grevo's (Reformed) breed like rabbits! Dr. Magnus 09:19, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * And they have a birth rate near the one of muslims :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:19, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep, here they're called revo's btw :S --Bucu 09:26, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * In Britain our fascist party (the BNP)is unable to get a single seat because of our system of proportional representation. --Semyon 13:13, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Clymene
I looked and saw that I have/had lost the State Elections already beforehand purely for demographical reasons. The only active citizens in Clymene are ALL Waldeners or supporters of Waldeners. :S I am kinda the Groen-Links party member participating in Almere... SjorskingmaWikistad 09:43, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I know, same problem with me. (though you have worse problems..) I think for the next elections we could do something like when you have three houses in one state, your vote counts three times (because you are really all for the state). --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:50, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, it is a demographical game. That's why we only vote 3 times (while there are 5 states), otherwise we would get a kind of general elections with the same winner in every state. --Bucu 09:52, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's sad; poor Alyssa has zero votes. CPL.nm: vote for her! :( Dr. Magnus 10:06, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, it seems that we don't have the power to support two candidates in one state. I however don't think she'd mind, the only reason she ran was because I asked her.  14:53, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's just because the newspapers talked about "the unbeatable duo" in that state. As it turns out, it'll be a hard election battle after all. Nobody is really winning big, except maybe Villanova. Dr. Magnus 14:58, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I am a bit dissappointed. I thought I was the one who extended the Clymene article, made a town and improved the infrastructure over there. Though, SOME people still don't agree and just delete my town, because it "was one town too many", while another town, made possible by nepotism, could stay. It is just one of the things I can't agree on, since there wasn't even a proper vote. I think I'll make a new vote, since I will be backed up by the other CPL.nm members. SjorskingmaWikistad 15:20, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * The NLS was closed and I joined the Christian party, but you can still count on my support. That "to many towns" bullshit is nonsense. Dr. Magnus 15:26, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it was just Dimi's opinion, which he succeeded to put through. The vote he set up wasn't fair and just a bullshit vote, since it was a list of towns, cities and neighborhods that were to be kept. It was so large that nobody could see which towns it included and which not. SjorskingmaWikistad 15:34, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Reminds me of january 2010, when Dimitri got rid of me, Hengist Smid, Honecker and Brenda Young. You know how? He said he asked wikia to CU them, and they were proven all different people (even all living in different countries) but he said they were all sockpuppets of Honecker or me and blocked them. Sometimes, when times are hard, he turns into a genuine despot, a dictator. He told us wikia said: "all people causing trouble should be blocked, even without evidence, because you feel something is wrong" and so thats what happened. So because he felt your neigborhood was one to many (and not the other ones), it had to go. Its as simple as that. The same thing is happening to me. Dr. Magnus 15:42, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * True, and when you tell it him, he gets either angry or just quotes a chap from somewhere, who said something intelectual that actually means: "Get lost, you f******!". Don't get me wrong. I like intelectualism, but I don't like excessive self-pride. SjorskingmaWikistad 15:45, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Still if he manages to convince the site council I gotta go, I gotta go. Because he has a great reputation and started the wikia (mostly that last thing ), he has much credibility. So his gut feeling is worth more then, say, yours or mine. Anyhow, I'm not going down without a fight and neither is your town! Are you with me, Sjors, brother? Dr. Magnus 15:51, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * What i've done for Clymene is improve it with Adoha I'll make Higtech Valley a better Town and make it the forfront of Lovia. and make clymene the envy! Also we campigned very good and promise alot for the state! Marcus Villanova 16:00, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Everybody can make a promise. Most of the time these promises are empty. Politicians are world class liars, it's what they do. You win the game by lying, promising great things, then you stab your voters in the back when they elect you like the Wouter Bos with the Iraq and Afghanistan war and Wilders with the age of pension in the Netherlands, or Obama with his change in the Middle-East (which means nothing and even got him an underserved Nobel price before he ever accomplished anything other then getting elected). Politics is bullshit. Dr. Magnus 16:43, October 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * More or less everyone knows that, I would say only 2% of all politicans are truthful...1% come from lovia so I guess that's bad in a way and of the one percent remaining 0.5 percent of that percent are in small town politics and the other half are in kinda major but not in president like positions! Marcus Villanova 16:48, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Haha, you funny guy! The other half are in kinda major but not in president like positions... so presidents are always perfectly honest people? Perhaps the ones that are realistic about things. Those who promise glorious revolutions, golden ages and prosperous times are just liars. They only care about being elected. Folk like Sarkozy (wanted to make his 22 year old son head of a bank) and Berlusconi (makes photomodels and mistresses senators and ministers). Dr. Magnus 16:53, October 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * No I didn't put it that way so...Marcus Villanova 16:55, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Move
Election Fraud!!!!!!! You can't just move to another state to influence the elections! Bucu, please revert those edits! JON  THE DUDE   JOHNSON  13:26, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Like I care :) I just did what you guys did, but I'm not afraid to hide it, like you did, all moving in in only 4 days just before the elections :). Bucu 13:30, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

It isn't fraud, it's politics. Many others have history of changing votes. It may not be entirely fair but it's not illegal. It's just as legal as all those people who bought a house in Oceana right before the start of the elections. Not a nice think to do, no, but perfectly legal. Dr. Magnus 13:31, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Let's put this 'fraud' stuff behind us. I'm sorry I ever brought it up. And no offence Jon, but it's a bit hypocritical to complain about people moving houses to influence the elections. --Semyon 13:43, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries, the KNU will happily march through the Lovian streets some day :P Bucu 13:44, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Uniforms and gun, of course, funded with money from the Donia Clan's personal wealth. Dr. Magnus 13:46, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks like we've found a worthy sponsor :P Bucu 13:47, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll be more then happy to pump millions of Lovian Dollars into Oceana. Sloboda! Dr. Magnus 13:48, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

reopening
Can a admin reopen the state election page? Pierlot McCrooke 13:29, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Anyone? Pierlot McCrooke 13:34, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nahh Bucu 13:36, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Dimitri forgot to do that Pierlot McCrooke 13:37, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * You have been naughty so Dimi locked the page. JON   THE DUDE   JOHNSON  13:39, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Dimitri promised to reopen the page Pierlot McCrooke 13:40, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Now, he did. 13:43, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

A wise decision of you, Marcus, to vote for Oos! It's the only way to keep Oceana a peaceful and beautifully flourishing state. However, it seems that someone hasn't voted yet, so we'll probably still get a tie, which would be the worst possible election outcome for Oceana (and a lot of alimentation for the nationalist movement to create new ethnic tensions!). The ultra-nationalist party was disbanded, as a reaction to the current satisfying score in Oceana, but I hope the ultra-nationalists won't feel the necessity to come in action, after the elections, because we don't know what the outcome will be. I hope everything will be settled by now and that Oos will keep his state in peace. It's the only solution. Bucu 16:15, October 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * I see. who hasn't voted yet? Marcus Villanova 16:17, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * That Dudeson. Bucu 16:22, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * I have mixed feelings about this. I wanted OWTB to win, but now feel sorry for Andy. He may see this as a betrayal. --Semyon 16:38, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * This are elections, some win, some lose JON   THE DUDE   JOHNSON  16:40, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed, I didn't say anything else, I only expressed my concerns that it will result in a tie, mio dudeson! Bucu 08:07, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Let's hope it doesn't JON   THE DUDE   JOHNSON  08:13, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, you're the one to decide :) Bucu 08:14, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * I know, but i'm doubding, in seven i know, in kings i know, in oceana i doubt JON   THE DUDE   JOHNSON  08:16, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Why i'm still in the running
Dear Lovians, it's been a tough battle in our home state Oceana. as you know, i've come to appreciate this state for its natural beauty and its fabulous background. I think of oceana as a state of opportunity. me myself, i want to grasp the opportunity and become governor of Oceana. It would be a great opportunity for the state as well. we would prove that progressives can run a state with rich traditions. Walden could revive the state!

Please consider voting for walden here. I promise that if elected Governor, I will make Oceana the most beautiful and flowering state of Lovia.

of course, I would always keep the Oshenna spirit and OWTB's work in my mind. I have always shown respect for my opponents. you can ask every lovian, they know.

10:41, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Closing of the polls
The polls will be closed within seconds' time. I wish the future Governors and Deputy Governors lots of good luck, as well as a sense of cooperation, consensus and goodwill. For the future of Lovia. Election results will be processed soon, although I expect the newspapers to be earlier with their analyses :D. 13:58, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * BTW: Yes, I cancelled my coffee break for once. Grmble. 13:58, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wuhuuu!!! Martha Van Ghent 13:59, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * CPL.NM clearly won, that follow out of my result works, I'll publish tonight (we won because we have the smallest deviation score, deuuuuh  JON   THE DUDE   JOHNSON  14:23, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's the best technique, certainly :) 14:28, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wait a bit, And besides, I'm the most popular guy in town :p JON   THE DUDE   JOHNSON  14:32, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * We all know that  14:34, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Huuuu Walden won Bitches. Hellz Yay! Marcus Villanova 20:44, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations to all! -- 15:24, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

Dimi's map
I always Love Dimi and Jon's Polls! There awseome! Marcus Villanova 20:38, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

Haphazard
Hey guys,

Before you get too carried away, remember you haven't fixed any dates. --Semyon 09:15, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Read the Constitution, article 8. It sets them right in there. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 11:41, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * True, but it would be nice to have them on the page too. Wait, I'll stop being lazy and do it myself. --Semyon 18:00, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Problem
OK, this is not good. Candidacies have finished but we have no candidate for Sylvania. I propose we ask Marcus to step in, and if he doesn't respond, enter a fictional 'dummy' character. It's not ideal, I know, but we need someone there. --Semyon 13:58, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * edit: TMV could also do it. --Semyon 14:00, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Fine with me. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:04, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * You can all start voting, by the way. Not that it'll be a very exciting election... :P --Semyon 14:16, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Am I now a candidate for Sylvania? The Master&#39;s Voice 14:23, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think so. I gather your residences are in Novosevensk, Pines and Oceana (tho' the Citizen page doesn't say that) so you should probably move one. --Semyon 14:47, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

We could also have Martha run again, if TMV doesn't want to. But I take it he does. I propose we keep the nominations open until the end of the polls, so that any people who want to still run can do that. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:53, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nah, that's pretty silly, TM. It doesn't work that way, never did. I take it you don't like seeing a UNS governer in Sylvania? 'cuz If nobody else run, there will be a far-right governor in the country's biggest region & capital! Almost like a dream... The Master&#39;s Voice 17:32, October 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Wait we had @#!*%  candidacies?????????????? WTF? SO you hold short timed candidacies in a inactive phase...smart. Marcus/Michael Villanova 19:02, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

OMG! Marcus, please run in either Kings or Sylvania. If you want Kings, I'll change my candidacy to Sylvania. The far right must not get a state! :P Also, I was just following the Constitution. I didn't notice until a half week after it should have started. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 19:05, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

I'll run in sylvania ....after all i am the PM so i live there =] Marcus/Michael Villanova 19:16, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

At 12 Democracy Avenue (formerly 10 but due to the road reform it's 12). :D —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 19:17, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Can I still join in? I'd like to run in Kings, even if I don't make a real chance. It's kind of symbolic for me. 05:23, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * @TM: The far-right must not get a state? Well, I suppose I could always settle for deputy, then... The Master&#39;s Voice 07:18, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Technically Marcus should not be running, but these elections have been so badly organised I can't really criticise... :P --Semyon 17:59, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah well, I don't really give a @#!*% ... if you belong to the far-right like me, you're used to not-winning elections.  The Master&#39;s Voice 18:01, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Darn... now TMV is going to e-mail every liberal and progressive user and they are going to come and vote for Yuri and I'm not going to win the election. sigh. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:07, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * I know this is not a fair argument but I did build Kings from scratch: I drew it on the map together with Dimi, I picked the name, I constructed Newhaven, etc. Again, this isn't a solid argument at all but the emotional value of Kings to my person is rather great.  05:13, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yuri, I understand. You gotta have my vote then. I mean, opposition is much more fun if you have a state of your own to retreat to, so you can still have some power over something. Oh and something else: shouldn't two people be running in every state? This way we do not have any deputies (besides me, that is). The Master&#39;s Voice 08:01, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * @TM: Welcome to the joy of Lovian elections. :P --Semyon 16:50, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Another problem
These probably qualify as most boring elections yet. However, we have constitutional problems, because: Therefore Oos and me are governor, but no-one else. A triumph for conservatism! Seriously, what shall we do? --Nikolai Koshkov, a.k.a Semyon 07:35, October 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * In Clymene and Sylvania, no-one succeeded in getting the minimum of three votes.
 * In Kings, we have an ex aequo, and as there are only two candidates having another round will make no difference. (In Britain this happened in a constituency last year. We tossed a coin).

Start over the elections? Flipping a coin is bad. I'd rather run against some conservative or Horton. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 10:52, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

The reason Horton doesn't have 3 votes is because he didn't vote for himself, oddly enough. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 10:53, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

I had not known about the 3 vote minimum, therefore I felt no need to vote for myself. HORTON11 12:20, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Well, that gives two problematic states. Perhaps one of the two is willing to withdraw? The other one (not three votes): nobody cares. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:03, October 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * @#!*% it, if the minimum isn't reached then then we have two options:


 * 1) The guys who won in 2010 stay in office (or only the deputy)
 * 2) Those who run instantly win, no matter how many (or how few) votes they got
 * How 'bout that? @#!*%  the law, it's holding us back. The Master&#39;s Voice 13:45, October 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Indeed, as I said: nobody cares about the legal requirement. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:46, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

I'd be willing to switch to Sylvania or Clymene but only if we have another round of voting. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:42, October 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd really like to have Kings back. I won't drop out, that's for sure.  07:07, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Why don't we just write all candidates won regardless of their ammount of votes? I mean, 'c mon people, seriously. We've got bigger issues to deal with right now. :) ╭∩╮（︶︿︶）╭∩╮ 07:14, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * In case you haven't noticed: we have a tie in Kings... --O u WTBsjrief-mich 07:19, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * There is one guy who can make a difference: Kim aka 'The Hammer'. Somehow I think he wont support either candidate.  07:20, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Or I could sell one home in Oceana and buy one in Kingz. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 11:36, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * I would be pro if you voted for me! Just kidding, that wouldn't be fair regardless of who you vote for.  12:22, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Finally you admit it :P (last state elections we did this too, but then in Oceana è :P) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:35, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * I've had an epiphany or two since then. One of them was that Oceana = OWTB ;-) 14:42, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hahahaa :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:46, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Suggestion: Why don't we make NC a state. It would be called an 'Autonomous City' and be run by a Mayor, but in practice these roles would be equivalent to State and Governor. Then TM and Yuri could both have a state. --Nikolai Koshkov, a.k.a Semyon 15:06, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, the return of an old proposal. I wouldn't oppose the creation of an extra state, but I ran for Kings not governorship. 15:24, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

The fun part
Everybody apart from Marcus reached the legal requirement and I believe the duration of these elections is mentioned in the constitution, so they did happen and the candidates (except for Marcus possibly) were 100% legally elected... --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:06, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes: --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:07, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

A question from a concerned voter...
Hello there. I am a concerned voter. "Dimi the plumber" or so. Anyway, I have a set of related questions for the gentlemen candidates. My vote(s) will go out to the candidate(s) with the most persuasive response. '''What is your assessment of the environmental situation in Lovia and in your state? Do you think climate change poses a tangible threat? Which concrete measures will you take to avert this environmental crisis from worsening and how will you promote the green cause in your state? Thank you, His Royal Highness, the Concerned Voter, Dimi'''Talen 14:32, September 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * From the lips of Hoffmann at a recent CNP conference 'I have just heard that the issue of the elections with the greatest trend upward is the matter of the Environment. So I think it's time we told all voters, CNP and otherwise what we know and what we plan to do. Lovia is currently saved from large environmental damage at the moment due to a lack of highly polluting industries and the way that the people have always blown the whistle on problems and the government's been able to come in and deal with it, however that may not always be the case, I know that in Sylvania we have a slowly declining environment, it may not be in trouble today or next year or even ten years but we mustn't be short sighted. It is time to build some laws in to protect the important Stephen Headlands and eastern Sylvania and bring in counter measures so that we have sustainable unpolluting power, environmentally responsible businesses and a real solid plan for the future.


 * Now I'm not talking about throwing down horrible ugly wind farms all across Sylvania that will just ruin the environment we are trying to save while not actually paying off in either electricity or money. No, what we must do is support the idea of off shore windfarms and use of natural gases along with support for solar power. Now here I may be caught well I guess you could say green handed in suggesting that we don't just throw out random promises to win over environmentalists but I really believe that there are logical and practical ways to deal wtih climate change. We in the CNP understand climate change poses at least some threat, whether or not you believe it is wholly, partly or nothing at all to do with human activity, it really does pose some threat because the climate is changing and you can argue over why now or you can deal with the problem and that is what we here in the CNP believe. Now we aren't going to bang on and harrass people about the environment however we will work with (and against if nessesary) Corporations and Social groups to encourage an environmental attitude in Sylvania.'
 * Hope this answers your questions :) Kunarian (talk) 15:38, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * A public transportation system. Buses will help reduce whatever traffic Lovia has on its roads and it is something I would like to implement for Sofasi. Hopefully the state can bring in hybrid buses to also assist in fuel economy. Eventually Plains and Adoha/Ferg Beach should get their own bus lines.
 * Construction. The state can become a leader in green construction by implementing new building codes to incorporate green features. We also plan to have incentives in place like tax credits so that both businesses and private homeowners can afford green items like rain collectors and solar panels.
 * Nature. With the rapid expansion of Adoha, it is necessary to offset this by protecting surrounding areas. As there are no National parks in the whole state I would like to create state parks which one day could be made National parks.

​As for climate change, the best form to combat it would be from the Federal level, as it is easier to implement uniform policies nationwide. Clymene would work as close as possible with congress to achieve this. HORTON11 : •  12:52, September 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reply! Any more candidates with an opinion? DimiTalen 11:18, September 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * While Lovia is already considered to be a green country, there is still much that can be made green and at the same time be practical. Several of the plans I would like to implement regarding the environment include: (unsigned)


 * I think we have a pretty weird, unusual, political climate around that. The people clearly state they want change but the government has been slow to adress that, many may say that's accpetable but the Labour Party understands the need of jobs and a green economy. My plan is basic, protect nature and that equals jobs. I will continue preserving the great nature preserves of Sylvania and in turn create park ranger jobs and create new national parks and lakes to also allow the great citizens to swim in our beautiful lakes. My oppoistion stated "throwing wind farms would kill the environment." i don't think he understands the great need of green jobs to be energy dependent from oil and other nations. I think the party i'm from understands this, we need farms and basic national features but also need hydroelectric power and wind turbines over hydrofracking and oil imports. Another issue would be the coal and mines in Lovia's Sylvania and Oceanaic are but would allow that to be the only non-green like energy to protect the jobs and opportunities in Lovia. I hope this shows my party's commitment to a Green Lovia and Green Jobs. Marcus/Michael Villanova 20:42, September 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Are we allowed to debate here? I feel the need to debate here :D Kunarian (talk) 21:53, September 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure, why not? It's a talk page :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:09, September 28, 2012 (UTC)