User talk:Kunarian/Archive3

Chat
Be sure to enter the chatroom.  Happy65   Talk CNP  13:59, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

I agree. That was roughly what I already was thinking, in fact. 77topaz (talk) 20:12, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

Er....
...my character Ferenc Szóhad has multiple residences, one of them in Noble City for as long as I can remember. I used to be called SjorskingmaWikistad, remember? Cadaro (talk) 14:41, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * O wait, I see now. I misread the rules. I interpreted electoral area automatically as Sylvania. My bad. Ignore this... Cadaro (talk) 14:45, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * I just saw this, no worries this is the first election that takes on this method. Graet to have you participating. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 14:58, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Exchange
Would you exchange minor votes?  Happy65   Talk CNP   14:52, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah that'd be okay. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 15:00, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Caught in the act. Vote trading. The Sovereign Democratic Union won't take this lightly :P Cadaro (talk) 15:28, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not really vote trading, I asked him if he would vote for me and he said he would if I voted for him, there's nothing really wrong there. I'm not voting for him just because he'd vote for me, it was either him or Donia. Besides I don't know what you could even try and make of this. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 15:33, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * "it was either him or Donia"... oh, the humanity! The glorious First Consul of Rome (talk) 15:46, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's okay :'( we can make it work! :P Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 15:52, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Haha I was just joking guys :) Cadaro (talk) 18:04, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well stop it! my heart was racing and the propoganda department was ready to go into overdrive :L Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 18:18, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Can you repeal the ordenance on not being about to vote for the same party twice, it is undemocratic to tell someone there second choice has to be someone else. Basically I can't help but feel since Labour is the only Party with two people running it is targeted against us either directly or indirectly. I hope you change this. Marcus/Michael Villanova 14:00, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * No. It's very democratic to say that you cannot create block votes. It's undemocratic to allow any party (Labour or not) to stand two or more candidates and then just vote for their own standing candidates. It'd be like having a preference vote in the USA where you get 3 votes, and you can only vote once for republican, libertarian or all the other parties and can vote three times for the democrats. This ruling will be held in all local elections to ensure people are there to help the area and not to just vote within their party, I will also be campaigning on this point so that it be within law for all elections, federal, state or local. I support equal opportunity for all parties no matter their size. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 14:13, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

By that logic Britain is undemocratic. In many local councils you choose Three candidates for your council, you can vote Labour-Labour-Labour or Lib Dem-Lib Dem- Lib Dem. This is just taking away a citizen's right to choose. Again how does a classical liberal, someone who is suppose to defend the natural rights of citizens going to stop the right to choose what they want. Article 1A.2 States "Lovia is a democratic and social state, governed by the rule of law, in which human dignity, the citizens' rights and freedoms, the free development of human personality, justice and political pluralism represent supreme values, in the spirit of the democratic traditions of the Lovian people and shall be guaranteed." I have the right to vote as I please no matter what you think, this Party unlike another, hasn't broken the law or obstructed democracy yet that other party is allowed to run!? Again I please ask you change the law, it's undemocratic in many ways. Marcus/Michael Villanova 14:29, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Britain is undemocratic, surely by now you should know that. This is not taking away a citizens right to choose as this also needs to be considered OOC and IC.


 * IC, we work by party list systems, it is simply asking you which Labour party list you prefer, Marcels or yours, people have currently chosen marcel more but your list will still get representation. If we worked by voting for individuals then everyone should be allowed to stand ten fake candidates one for each position. I wonder if anyone would vote for a candidate that wasn't their own then?


 * OOC, we need to clamp down on this thing you and a few other parties have a habit of doing which is standing a load of candidates, and then voting only within your party so that you don't have to vote for anyone else. Half of these candidates never even vote or do you support how inactive the current congress is? We need to make it unprofitable for people to just spam candidates that never vote.


 * And don't be silly, the constitution can be interpreted any which way anyone wants, the only parts that matter when it concerns actual proceedings are the finer details such as how we elect state legislatures and their powers (a reform utterly blocked by parties that spam candidates that are never here). And you CAN vote as you please, maybe you should try standing a single candidate you can throw your weight behind rather than spamming.


 * Anyways I've yet to hear an actual reason backed up by some good logic why it's undemocratic. And don't throw the multi-interpretable bits of the constitution at me, I've read it enough times. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 14:42, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Well, the problem with that sort of party list in character thinking is that people might just make two separate parties that are exactly the same, allowing them to bypass it. Other than that, I think you are correct. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 15:09, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Honestly every system has it's flaws. But we can further arm against that bypass by simply making some requirements when it comes to operating your party, very simple things but things that would stop people who have no intention of sticking around. Plus that sort of regulation would fit in IC, it's just an idea currently I'm sticking with my only vote once policy but it is an idea. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 15:13, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't get the whole "ten fake candidates argument". Your voting for a person with a party which translates into seats and other candiates, and the voters know that. What's to stop me then from runing as an independent and just switching Parties? Fine I'll do it. I mean you are simply stoping me from supporting from wanting to see my representation in congress (by me I mean through the power of democracy). You also claimed it is for inactivity reasons yet it is your side creating it! You can't deny the fact most on the right have been inactive by doing just that, supporting MCP or LMP or CDP and other conservative/classical liberal candidates. I've proposed an actual solution in terms of state elections to stop that because it plauges our system. Your saying "oh this will take away the incentive to stop support inactive candidates of the same party" but my party has two active politicians, and I want to support them.  The logic backed by my argument is the basic definition of democracy "the right to choose politicians which will best represent my opinions in a legislative body" and that is all I want. Marcus/Michael Villanova 15:23, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * The ten fake candidates arguments relates to your IC argument. Also again you aren't voting for a person, you vote for a person in the Governor elections, not within the federal elections or these elections, you vote for party lists. Also the sentence about representation in congress I couldn't understand what you meant there.


 * And here we go again, Marcus people are going to (and already are) sick of your whole blanket argument stuff. "My side"? seriously? This kind of thing isn't about left or right, this is about making congress full of committed people who are active and contributing to Lovia. Your attempts at political points scoring aren't going anywhere here.


 * You've proposed a solution? where? seriously, you have nothing written, write something and then we can talk but currently I am testing a solution and it is going rather well at the moment, I have something, I have evidence.


 * Also you have two active politicians? who are you counting there? because Frijoles is semi-active, we will see how much he can contribute after the Train Village Local Elections, when he has a seat and has responsibility. And you can vote for them and support them, but now you can't stand all your users characters there and just vote for them, which would defeat any workable election system (and especially local election systems where there are less users with less votes so more room for abuses).


 * Also we all should have the right to choose politicians which will best represent our opinions, however this is a wikia with characters instead of people and users in control of multiple characters we need to consider how that affects the democratic system. If we were to be just like real life then surely (retrying the fake candidates argument with you) I could stand as many characters as I have votes and just vote for them? everyone could do that, no, we need to be serious about stopping candidate spamming and ensuring that this is a wikia made by actives, for the actives and of the actives. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 15:51, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * But you do vote for a person thats the thing. You vote for a person in these elections too, like how I voted for Myself and in translation a vote for who I want to bring to congress. You can't even  run with ten characters, you run as one main one, thats the whole rule of this game, and it's worked, don't act like it's otherwise. But your side is the one. It's not point scoring, it's not trying to gain on something for my benfit, it's trying to point out the hypocracy. You state theres a inactivity problem, yes I agree with that. But you can't call out others when it's those closest to your party, who get support from those closest to your party who create the inactivity problem supporting inactive politicians. But then it doesn't help when you impose the new "one vote per party" rule and it only effects us in these elections, and parties with more than one member. It's easier to state it when you don't have nobody else in the party.
 * By what I meant was at the state level was the sentance in the first chamber. I have a problem with inactivity no matter what party or politician, and that's my solution not beating up on democracy and those who recieve support from the populous. Yes, and I'm for the actives, you suggest penalize those who are because they are ideologically close. It's just sad. You of all people know that you can't run more than once in an election so don't act like you could by saying you'll run "ten candidates". The plan that works would be allowing full fledged democracy for the citizens of the nation to vote whenever and however they like, and allowing all to run. But removing those who are inactive and replacing them with active users. Your plan is control the votes, control the politicians. I get the politicians part but why take it out on democracy? Marcus/Michael Villanova 16:39, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * No Marcus, you vote for characters, and users at that by proxy, but IC you vote for a party list. And I see you still haven't gotten the point I was trying to make.


 * And yes it is point scoring, and no I'm not hypocritical, you're quite ignorant if you think that another persons actions are mine, most people will agree I'm one of the most active users who has rarely missed a chance to vote and is working on vital legislation that without, this country can't even function.


 * And yes I can call you and others out on it, because again Marcus you and your brainwashed mind are at fault, this isn't about left and right I repeat (and please let this get through), this is about commitment to principle and commitment to making Lovia a more active place. Honestly it seems like you want me to throw this rule away so that you can compound more votes into your party.


 * And Marcus when you say "that's my solution not beating up on democracy and those who recieve support from the populous" you still haven't given me a solution, you've waffled, you've tried to attack my position but no solution. And by the way I hardly think that it's popular support you have if you are only getting votes from within your party, that's another reason why this rule has been instated. And again (this is getting tiresome) you seem to have misunderstood my fake candidates argument, at least Time understood it.


 * One last reply to your last point, you are a hypocrite and this big talk you're trying is failing. You do not want all to be allowed to run, you threatened to stop the IGP from running, because you didn't agree with them, how is that democracy?! I allowed anyone to run and I simply put a rule in that is a counter part to only being able to vote for one candidate. And don't play strawmen with me saying that I (like this is all some sort of conspiracy) am trying to control the votes and the politicians, what I am doing is stopping parties from spamming candidates. Seriously sort out your argument. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 17:09, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying your actions are yours, but the fact is, and that's why I said "around your party" ideologically, support those who are inactive. The point that was tried to be made was, don't call me out or those who try to defend democracy when it's those on you side, yes your ideological side who have ruined the system with inactivity. Your so brainwashed you don't realize when there's an attack on democracy. I want people who I think will best represent my views in Congress, and your saying that this is some how brainwashing? Again disgusting, you've just told me "And by the way I hardly think that it's popular support you have if you are only getting votes from within your party, that's another reason why this rule has been instated." So even if your ideologically opposed to someone you can't tell them not to vote for those within there own party, you can't make them not express there freedom by telling them you can't support your own party no matter what you think. You've forgotten that.
 * You've also forgotten the law is something you need to abide by, the supreme court ruled the party undemocratic istelf and to vandalize and ruin the wiki. But then again you'r land army fought along side them in the Civil War so I understand the agreement with letting them in. The law however, didn't outlaw facism in speech, but the party for it's infringment on other's rights. The UNS was law abiding so it was allowed. "Spamming candidates' give me a break. Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:48, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Are you trying to say I support those who are inactive? because if TimeMaster, Topaz and Oos are inactive then hell yes I do. Ideologically I'm around them too, in fact I've had a coalition with all of them at some point in some form. And again your whole argument is based on trying to point score with your silly "left right" thing that always seems to be going on in your head.


 * Also seriously I cannot understand your second point about asking people not to support people ideologically opposed to you. And don't talk to me about law, you seem to think that a court can change the law, it's undemocratic to ban a party and therefore completely against the constitution, if you did take the IGP to court you'd be paying their lawyer his wage by the end of it. Marcus to be honest you aren't even making sense, you've gone completely off topic with this one and are clearly getting irate about this whole thing. Don't reply to this without showing me your solution in detail or I'll delete the reply. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 18:20, June 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah and I didn't say that. Frankly a system that works is one in place + making laws to remove inactive politicians, not your plan to stop democracy in hopes it solves the problem. In your solution people would only make political parties to keep themelves in it and have no other users in it and then just support each other, we'd have 10-12 parties. Yup, and i'll keep you too that, considering all the votes are going to the CNP and IGP there won't be must dissagreemnt, try it on a larger scale when you have three times as many people and when the votes are largely more distributed to more inactive people (like from those smaller inactive parties) Marcus/Michael Villanova 16:47, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * The system we have already has laws to remove inactive politicians, making that more extensive really won't change much. And really? "My plan to stop democracy"? by not allowing you to vote just within your party and create a block vote no one else really supports?


 * And more strawmen arguments, And by the way what is wrong with people having their own parties? or are you afraid that it would mean you couldn't get a bit group together and try to revive the days of Walden and CPL.nm where you ousted perfectly good people who were doing the wiki good from their positions to replace them with your loyal party members and where you silenced descent by not allowing people a voice in government.


 * So now because votes are going to parties that might (dare I say it!) agree with each other occasionally. And can I just say that on a larger scale of course a few votes would go to inactives, no system is perfect, but this system would completely make spamming candidates pointless and therefore would mean less inactives. Anyway I'm kind of fed up with you throwing strawmen at me so reply with your solution in detail or like above, I will delete your reply. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 18:20, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your support vote! :) 77topaz (talk) 22:35, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, I was told by Marcus to alert to the fact that Rahkam built a new residence in Sylvania. Just letting you know. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 20:36, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Awesome. Thanks for the info, I'll hold on till then. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 01:08, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Offer?
Well the offer still stands. If you want the whole Sylvania Coalition for the city can stand to pass your legislation for the town. Also any polling this week? Marcus/Michael Villanova 00:48, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

Polling being done now, and may I suggest the coalition be called the Train Village Coalition. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 13:40, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

works for me! Marcus/Michael Villanova 17:17, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

Well the people mostly agreed with it. And I already have two bills ready for TV (one with a purpose, the other for nonsense) Marcus/Michael Villanova 14:56, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Remember the local councils have limited power, mainly limited to executive action. Big spending is less of a thing too, more of directed spending. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 21:39, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Hey for the next Lovian Times Polling can you do a flavour poll on who you'd vote for in Clymene (RLP-SCP-GP-OTHER)? Marcus/Michael Villanova 21:22, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * YES! WILL DO! finally some one else uses the unique private polling that only the Lovian times can provide. :D Spread the word, your polling solutions come from us! Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 21:39, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Haaa will do xD just wanna see the early situation for the RLP and what we could do. Marcus/Michael Villanova 22:09, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh and two more things. If you can add the polling to be in done in part with Clymene Today and holding polling for Seven as well since CT sells there which would be most likely Ind.-SCP-CDP? Marcus/Michael Villanova 14:25, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Ah yes, here you go. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 22:35, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Al-Asmari Estate, July 1, 2013
 * Rakham Tarik Al-Asmari

I'm sorry, I have yet to come up with a location. I was planning on the estate being in Thameen, but until one of the politicians allow me to place in as a neighborhood in one of the cities, I'm at an impass. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 14:41, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

How about East Sylvania? Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 15:34, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Sylvanian Residency
Here is the information that you asked for :)


 * Name- Marcel Cebara


 * Residence in Sylvania- 3 Charles Street, Charleston, SY (since 26th March 2013)

Thank you Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 17:00, June 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * thanks :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 17:26, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Great!
Beautiful seals but yall already knew that! :D Marcus/Michael Villanova 12:25, June 23, 2013 (UTC)

Kings settlements
Four of your proposed dots match the Kings settlements. I think it is a good idea to not place too many, as nobody is taking care of Kings inparticular. Cadaro (www.tonefactory.lo) 13:56, June 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Understood completely, also this may be me being evil however three settlements struck me as out of place. Headland lakes is supposed to be further north west, same with Steenveld which is supposed to be in a snug little mini valley. Carlhaven is supposed to be right on the side of the beaver river. I'm saying this to help and I hope I don't seem annoying as you're already doing great work. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 14:16, June 25, 2013 (UTC)

Cadaro, stop saying that. As the Governor of Kings, I order you to place more settlements in Kings (with good names). :P —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 14:23, June 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree with Time, even if it's not being edited as much as other places, it needs the right density of settlements. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 14:28, June 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Any thing I can do to help speed this up I will help :D Marcus/Michael Villanova 23:32, June 25, 2013 (UTC)

Residence
Major update regarding Rakham's home in Sylvania. He lives on Andreas Avenue 9 in Noble City. Little side home for him to stay in during corporate business in the capital (where his company is based). Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 00:46, June 26, 2013 (UTC)

Reply
Chat please.  Happy65   Talk CNP  14:49, June 26, 2013 (UTC)

I left you..
.. a message: :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:29, June 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorted, along with other roads into Sylvania. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 13:00, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:14, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Help needed?
Do you need some help with that massive red list of Sylvanian hamlets? :P I will stay true to your descriptions on your user page, and not add silly things. Cadaro (www.tonefactory.lo) 21:17, June 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah help me get them started, I'll do the seals and flags (feel free to throw out ideas though) and fill out the blanks. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 13:01, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Request
Hi, I am making a polite request that you allow Happy to rejoin the CNP. Eagerly awaiting an explanation of why not or an acceptance, —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 21:53, June 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * If Happy would like to rejoin I will need to speak to him via talk page or chat. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 13:04, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * He has said you have said no, so I am politely requesting that you say yes next time. :P —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 13:06, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll probably let him back in but we need to talk about things. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 13:17, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Alright, excellent. And don't forget 4kant. :P —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 13:21, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Again if they want to talk about it, I'll be right here. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 13:31, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Regarding the Sylvanian road network
Would it be okay if I use your road map as inspiration instead of direct source? It would be a serious pain in the ass to directly trace everything. I promise you that I will follow the general trajectory of the roads you drawn, with respect to the settlements they pass through. This way, every settlement will be connected in exactly the same way as on your map, but I have to worry less about exact tracing and I can account for terrain and rivers. Currently, your map looks like a collection of parabolas -which is not a bad thing, looking at real road maps- but it makes it a bit bland. Cadaro (www.tonefactory.lo) 20:26, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * I honestly am generally fine with what you're saying here, I'd just like it if you kept to the general direction of the roads I have made, which is what it sounds like you're saying. If so, feel free to go ahead. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 20:30, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Great! I will not deviate from the general lay-out of your plans. Expect integrity and respectful map-making :P Cadaro (www.tonefactory.lo) 21:13, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, now I am finished with the Clymene hamlets, would it be okay by you if I started to fill in some of your hamlets? Respecting the plan you made in your user space of course. Cadaro (www.tonefactory.lo) 22:04, June 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah but as I say I will be coming around (slowly but surely) and probably changing a lot. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 22:11, June 28, 2013 (UTC)

Severnybana
Does this name mean anything? :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:07, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * 'Northern Mine'. It's lost it's accents due to Anglicisation over the years, although locals may still add them in. why? Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 09:16, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * I had a hard time understanding it for two reasons:
 * bana < baňa (banya, not bana :P)
 * The adjective doesn't inflect, should be: severná-baňa > Severnabana :P
 * While the first thing is perfectly explainable because of American/Anglophone stupidness, the second one is rather strange :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:37, June 29, 2013 (UTC)~
 * I think it doesn't really matter. It be such a chore to change it again. I mean, how many people will notice? Case in point. Also: in hindsight, Train Village is a terrible name, courtesy to Pierlot. Cadaro (www.tonefactory.lo) 10:34, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Who said anything bout changing it? :P The "nobody cares" point is invalid in this case, cuz I do care. I want to have a logical explanation as to why the Americans took over the name with a wrong translation. @TV: alright, gotta give you a point there :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:39, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Train Village isn't horrible, but if we can change it to a nicer train related name and such then perfect. And Oos is kind of right, I'm doing etymologies for all of these so I think the explanation might have to be that in the past (1905-1920) the officials in Noble City kept on writing the name as Severnybana however I'm happy to change to Severnabana if that'd make things easier to explain. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 11:28, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * No, keep it. I'll write an explanation on my better computer. Cuz this ain't working n my laptop :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 11:33, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, you're both a great help. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 11:35, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

We could incorporate Muzan Oceana in this theory, if you're okay with it: --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:07, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Original name: severná-baňa > Oshenna influence (had lost feminine by that time, 40's 50's) > severný-baňa > American misspelling > Severnybana.
 * sounds great! :D Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 13:20, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Jason's Ranch
So you're making it American? And what do you want the last name to be if it isn't Dooley? Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 13:35, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

see the talk page. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 13:36, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks
Hey! Thanks for helping me out. I'm happy I have our Governor on my side. ---Sunkist- (talk) 17:43, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, always here to help! :D Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 17:43, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

Would you be interested in attending a party at the Brunanter Embassy for independence day celebration on 9 July? (more info on the embassy page) HORTON11 :  •  16:45, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * I would be very interested in doing so. I'll leave for Brunant on the 7th and come home on the 10th, have a little holiday there. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 17:06, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * I had meant the invitation to be for the Embassy here in Lovia, but if you want to travel you'll be sure to find many feasts and parties, or if you want you could attend the official reception for dignified guests etc. at the Royal Palace in Koningstad. HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 17:20, July 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd like to travel and meet with our friends across the water in Brunant. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 18:41, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

British Politics
Hey wondering if you wanted to start a Poolmedia/Villanova inc. newspaper on British politics and current events for those in Lovia. Can have a political opinion section and stuff? Lemme know. Marcus/Michael Villanova 00:34, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't know, I prefer keeping to Lovian News. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 10:56, July 6, 2013 (UTC)

Sylvania uses..
.. the British spelling :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:51, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Tis the correct spelling! Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 10:56, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * You're a nationalist :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:56, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Only in civil matters. :L Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 10:58, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hahaha, nice try :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:59, July 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * :L Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 11:05, July 6, 2013 (UTC)

Armor
CE Munitions is in the experimental stages of developing a lightweight military-grade combat suit. The work-in progress article is here. Feel free to collaborate with me on this or give me advice, if it is within your area of expertise. I was also wondering if Defense would consider adopting the product for use in the police. If a success, it will be greatly more efficient than a vest. — Christopher Costello (Pikapi • Chat  • What's up ) 14:39, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

NCSE
Did you see my message on the stock exchange page? HORTON11 : •  17:11, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Will check it out now. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 17:12, July 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't see the distinction between Representatives and Senate in this context, so I signed up for both (starting day was listed as today for both). Just remove me from Senate if I wasn't supposed to do that. Also, you didn't address my earlier question. — Christopher Costello (Pikapi • Chat  • What's up ) 17:53, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Voting
Problem! From 20-28 July I am on vacation without internet access. Can I say on the 19th my votes to you so you can vote for me with my sign? Wabba The I (talk) 19:08, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll make a special exception. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 19:16, July 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * What? But if it ends on the 28th, I can vote late in that evening maybe or maybe the 29th? Wabba The I (talk) 20:08, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hij vindt het goed. Als je hem op de 19e zegt op wie je wilt stemmen, plaats hij jouw stemmen :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 07:36, July 16, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Kuni. Wabba The I (talk) 07:50, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

--O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:19, July 16, 2013 (UTC)
 * to you too. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 17:21, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

Major project on Conworlds
Hey, UP, MineCraftian, Fallout and I are working on a new project back on Conworlds if your interested in joining. Here's the if you'd like to know more. Looking forward to seeing you there hopefully. :) Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 16:20, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

Voting Message II after the Voting Message I
Here are my votes for the election:

For Representatives: For Senators: Wabba The I (talk) 16:47, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Noble City District: 3 votes Lukas Hoffmann, 2 votes Oos Wes Ilava, 1 vote Justin Abrahams
 * Noble City Bay Area District: 2 votes Lukas Hoffmann, 1 vote Marcus Villanova
 * East Sylvania District: 2 votes Jhon Lewis, 1 vote Christopher Costello
 * Train Village Plains District: 2 votes Jhon Lewis, 1 vote Lukas Hoffmann
 * Train Village District: 2 votes Jhon Lewis, 1 vote Lukas Hoffmann
 * Sylvanian Highlands District: 2 votes Oos Wes Ilava, 1 vote Christopher Costello
 * Clave Rock District: 2 votes Justin Abrahams, 1 vote Ferenc Szóhad
 * Stephen Headland District: 2 votes Ferenc Szóhad, 1 vote Nicholas Sheraldin
 * Charleston District: 2 votes Jhon Lewis, 1 vote Justin Abrahams
 * Discovery Island District: 2 votes Lukas Hoffmann, 1 vote Ferenc Szóhad
 * Noble City District: 3 votes Lukas Hoffmann, 2 votes Christopher Costello, 1 vote Marcus Villanova
 * Noble City Bay Area District: 2 votes Oos Wes Ilava, 1 vote Christopher Costello
 * East Sylvania District: 2 votes Jhon Lewis, 1 vote Lukas Hoffmann
 * Train Village Plains District: 2 votes Jhon Lewis, 1 vote Lukas Hoffmann
 * Train Village District: 2 votes Jhon Lewis, 1 vote Lukas Hoffmann
 * Sylvanian Highlands District: 2 votes Oos Wes Ilava, 1 vote Christopher Costello
 * Clave Rock District: 2 votes Ferenc Szóhad, 1 vote Marcus Villanova
 * Stephen Headland District: 2 votes Jhon Lewis, 1 vote Ferenc Szóhad
 * Charleston District: 2 votes Jhon Lewis, 1 vote Ferenc Szóhad
 * Discovery Island District: 2 votes Lukas Hoffmann, 1 vote Ferenc Szóhad
 * Roger, great stuff. Waiting on Senator votes. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 21:40, July 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * I added the Senators list.

If Topaz has no objections, then I'd be happy to support. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 14:14, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure whether you have two votes or just one in the state elections, Viva. But, in the districts in which I'm not running (but Kunarian is), you're free to support Kunarian anyway. 77topaz (talk) 19:15, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Me in Senate
I have been a resident of Sylvania for over a year, though I did change residencies within the state after the war. Please undo this so that I can run in the Senate. — Christopher Costello (Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 01:58, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Where have you been a resident for over a year? In Costello Tower, you've only been living there since the 11th of August, if you have an earlier residence, do tell and I'll reinstate you in the Senate voting. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 08:54, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * I lived in New Town, but after the Civil War I reformatted the neighborhood a little so my former residence is no-longer existent (it was burned down). It is now the site of the Long Walk Memorial. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 19:05, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * But is it still legal to run once the elections are underway?  HORTON11 : Email_icon.jpg • follow_me.PNG 19:19, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * He was unlawfully stopped, so the invalidity shall be lifted. Hoffmann LogoCNP.png Kunarian TALK 19:34, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

I thought they were two separate areas? :P —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 13:36, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * No the Noble City Area includes the Bay Area. All areas have their own settlement (or capital) district and their surrounding rural district. Hoffmann LogoCNP2.png Kunarian TALK 13:53, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Not entirely true, looking at Eastern Sylvania :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:00, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * I plan for Pool and Oostermond to both gain their own districts, therefore equalising it all. Hoffmann LogoCNP2.png Kunarian TALK 14:15, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:17, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, I thought that was just for the Senate. :s —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 20:28, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * No the elections work the same in both the Council and Senate, it's just that in the Council there are lower requirements to stand as a candidate and vote. Hoffmann LogoCNP2.png Kunarian TALK 20:33, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

Moving discussion here.
Its taking up too much space in The Pub so I decided to move the subject of LRT in Noble City here. For my response. If the LRT is going to consist of one line, then yeah, Sylvania Rail can own it. But however, if its going to be two lines and more, then I reccommend that a separate company is created in order to manage the system since light rail is very different than the intercity ones.

Personally, I think that the first line should run from Noble City International Airport down to Downtown for the first phase, and see if there can be enough space for expansions.

Thoughts? Adams990 (talk) 23:40, July 29, 2013 (UTC)

Sylvania Rail will probably own it anyway. Sylvania Rail, which is a planned government owned company which will ensure cheap and fluid transportation and provide competition within the monopolised rail lines, will operate on all rail based transport lines, light rail or otherwise. Of course it'll be within it's own separate part of Sylvania Rail which I'm sure you'll want to be able to take the lead on.

And I completely agree, the first place to start should be a line running from the airport to Downtown. Such a line will help tourism, ease transport and provide temporary jobs. The idea is good. From the base line we can expand.

Considering that I have promises and aims to fulfil this term as the Sylvanian Governor, we should plan this for next term. My next term should start in November if people remember all the work I've done for the State, we'll get a new round of funds in March next year and construction can begin then, until then we'll ensure that everyone is prepared for this change.

I'll also make people aware that the CNP are making this an official policy for my governorship campaign.

This has been a good talk, if you have any further ideas or thoughts it'd be great to hear them, and you also sound like a prime community member who is interested in keeping things moving forwards. If you've taken a look around at parties I'd like to invite you to simply be a member of the CNP (my party), if you are interested in being a member and have questions feel free to ask them, I could also link you to our federal policy list for this year if you like so you can get an idea for yourself. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 23:59, July 29, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for listening to my proposal. I simply recognized that the capital and largest city of Lovia will need to have a light rail system to avert some problems that Noble City might have in the future. Now, I still don't know what to name the LRT system yet and I don't know what naming conventions that the lines should follow (whether color line or terminus-terminus line). Link to the Federal policy list? Adams990 (talk) 00:28, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

We'll sort out a good name later, we generally name it something related to the route, like this one might be named the Downtown-Airport tram line. Yes, my party's federal policy list (because politics in Lovia takes place both nationally and in each State), the federal policy list refers to national policies. Here take a look at it and maybe our party page, both are rather incomplete, but I'm planning on finishing them soon, I normally spend more time working on Sylvania and Lovia than my own pages which is one of my flaws but it's helped the site develop out of character and helped Lovia develop in character. Here are the links anyways national policy list and my party's page. Take a gander! I'll answer any questions tomorrow as I have to sleep now. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 00:41, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Chat
I'm on now. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 13:44, July 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm back on. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 16:56, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

Light Rail problem solving.
I haven't thought of a name yet (we'll come to that if you get elected in November). However, right now, I'm in the middle of trying to solve some of the obvious problems with the plan. At least I got a rough grasp of what the route will look like.

I'm planning for the LRT line to start from Noble City International Airport (possibly a underground station) and will go Transcity, Mandarin Village, The Mall and end at Downtown. I don't know if it would be of any interest for light rail to go through Citizen's Corner (since its next to Downtown and pretty much an administrative district. The only reason for Downtown is due to housing a tourist attraction and a good spot for a nexus).

There is also the next problem. I did some research and there is the Docklands Light Railway in London (which is a tram). Their trains are driverless, and employees called "Passenger Service Attendents" check the trains regularly to make sure the mechanics are nice and smooth. I don't know if we should do that or hire regular human drivers to command the trains.

Also, space is one major obstacle that we have to go through. (Usually, I find it best that we can put light rail tracks in the middle of avenues such as Democracy Avenue but I don't know if it will work well as I think it will).

What do you think might be the solutions to these problems? Adams990 (talk) 06:34, July 31, 2013 (UTC)


 * What are the advantages of having an underground station at the airport?


 * The route seems good, however I think that it should go through Citizens Corner like you said. About a nexus, this is a difficult issue, Downtown is practically full and has no space. We could go for the traditional transport sector of Transcity as a nexus, as that's close to other forms of transport and will allow us to have it completed quicker as we won't have to do as many inner-city constructions. Then we can work on building out from there.


 * Driverless sounds nice but I think it'd be easier to manage and be less impersonal if we have regular human drivers, your ideas?


 * I think the problems of space will have to be solved with a raised rail going above the centre of roads, that way we won't have to claw up roads and while construction will cause a few traffic problems, after construction a raised rail will mean that we can have the same driving space below as before. Hoffmann LogoCNP2.png Kunarian TALK 07:22, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

I think it would be great to improve Noble City's public transit systems, but I was thinking that maybe as we already have the Grand Interstate Railway running between the Airport and Transcity, we could have a light rail service running just on that segment of the railway, instead of building a whole new train line. However, I still like the idea of this seperate line running from the Airport to Citizen Corner.

I know you said you wouldn't be thinking about names right know, but how about something like "Capital Connect" (which I think is the name of a train route in the UK, but is still a name we could use in Lovia)

Anyway, I'd be good to see more public transit in Noble City Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 12:44, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

BSO
Could we hold a vote in the Sylvania State Council, so we can finally let Bus Service Oceana run buses to Sylvania? :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 18:18, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's allowed anyways, I can't think of any block that's in place. Maybe we should hold a quick vote so that people just get an understanding of how the voting system will work? Hoffmann LogoCNP2.png Kunarian TALK 19:07, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's a good idea. Well anyway, I think it still needs state approval (not in the law of course), in order to set up the bus stops along the roads :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 19:12, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Technically it's local governments responsibility to grant companies approval for that sort of thing however we'll do it in the State Council chamber this time. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP2.png Kunarian TALK 19:56, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ow, okay :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 20:01, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

Kunar, for easyness reasons, I'm gonna split the Peace Island Railway. The part from Hurb to Artista'll become the Oceana State Line, of which the track from the Oshenna/Sylvania border to Artista will be maintained by both Oceana and Sylvania, okay? :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:32, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm okay with that. Hoffmann LogoCNP2.png Kunarian TALK 11:41, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Good :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 12:48, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Should we start the Sylanian Railway Project, or whatever its called. Marcus/Michael Villanova 14:18, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * You mean the railway to Charleston? You could do it like Emerald Railway, or differently :P Anyway, the name adopted by Congress is Headlands Cross State Line. --O u WTBsjrief-mich 14:24, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

OSC - SCO
Could you please add to the list for your party (CNP)? Thank you :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:31, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks (also for using an Oshenna surname) :) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:58, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey! we're a nationalist party, we only have native surnames. :P Hoffmann LogoCNP2.png Kunarian TALK 10:04, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hahaha :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:17, August 3, 2013 (UTC)

Councils
What the difference is between State and Local councils? Also, are there currently councils for each state? — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 02:15, August 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'll let kunarian asnwer the local council question, but no there are "standing councils" for Seven and Kings but do nothing. The Oceana one, does somethign apparently and it has been given power and order according to the current Governor Oos. The only state without one it, Clymene...I'll leave my opinon out of that one :P Marcus/Michael Villanova 03:12, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

In Sylvania Local Councils are executive authorities and to do with running the government in the local area, they control the spending of budgets assigned to them. State Councils are legislative authorities and to do with law making and managing the general state budget. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 09:34, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

Chat
Hey, can I talk to you on chat when you get the chance? — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 15:13, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

Economy game
I'm sorry, I just noticed this now. Is this something that a wiki consensus decided upon, or are you going off on your own tangent and beginning on your own? I don't like the idea of unnecessary restrictions, and for good reason: CE is a multinational corporation. Its success won't be dependent on how it fares in the Lovian market. A lot of what I put is just said and taken for granted. Not only that, but its divisions for different industries aren't separate subsidiaries (which means that CE operates in multiple sectors, and I'd rather not change the current system). From the looks of things, these factors will upset the entire game unless you have a way to work around them. Chat me. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 17:57, August 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * Just a few more things. Can you explain everything about how the turn system will work? Also, will there be a corporate tax of some sort factored into the game? Can having a lot of subsidiaries be detrimental? BTW, are you open to adding more area-specific fields to the sectors or not? Thanks! — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 19:02, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * Turns are the amount of actions a company/division/subsidiary can perform a day, actions can be beneficial to you or detrimental to the competition. Yes taxes will be factored in (that's corporate or otherwise) but only at the rate that congress legalises them (over my dead body! :L). Yes, because you'll have to do a lot of work to run all the areas as you need to be doing a certain amount of actions over the bi-weekly period to stop your company/division/subsidiary from simply receding (losing customers and money in general, etc.) also if any of your subsidiaries are facing trouble it'll reflect badly on your complete company (although the same can be said if your subsidiaries are doing well). No, it'll be a slippery slope into over-complexity and it's already a bit complex, but having more than one company in the same sector won't really hurt business, it will mean that they are technically competing however you'll have two (or more) players not one. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 19:20, August 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * This page has all of the Costello Enterprises subsidiaries that I will be using listed (ignore the ticker abbreviations). Even though it might be a bit of work for me to maintain, I'd like for you to include them all under Costello Enterprises (CENT), a single stock. Because you are more familiar with the setup than I am, if you still want to register them for me that would be great! I was also thinking we don't have nearly enough locations on the Lovian maps to represent company locations, unless we are allowed to say there are locations outside the maps, or we are willing to give them some much needed expansions. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 22:25, August 8, 2013 (UTC)
 * There are plenty of map locations although this makes it more interesting now because unless a governor builds buildings, they won't have a good state economy or at least a good supply of buildings for businesses to make their home. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 12:46, August 9, 2013 (UTC)

*white glove slap*
Maybe i've been watching too much old ChrishHitch videos but I want to debate on the issue of a confederate Loiva in the chat sometime, have a moderator and post it in the pub or whatever, if you'd like. I think it's an interesting issue that me and others would like to be enlightened about. Marcus/Michael Villanova 03:14, August 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, who'll be the debaters? Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 12:30, August 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Most likely you for "Why Lovia should adopt Confederatism" and usually someone like Horton or Krosby who, I guess haven't been to keen on devolution would argue "Why Lovia should not be a Conderate country". Marcus/Michael Villanova 03:37, August 10, 2013 (UTC)

Subsidiary
Just wondering. Why aren't the Kameron companies listed as subsidiaries of Kameron Industries? I'm still a little unsure of how the turn mechanics work, but will this give you more turns? Furthermore, don't you think that Kameron Foods would be better suited for Sector I, or does that only pertain to restaurants? — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 14:08, August 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Kameron Companies aren't listed as subsidiaries because by and large they are independent of each other and the Kameron Industries corporation, although the Kameron Industries corporation provides leadership, high level management is done by the various companies plus, Kameron Industries doesn't trade on stocks, it's completely private and owns the 51% shares the Kameron Family owns in the companies. Technically it will, although the stocks are completely separate so I don't benefit from the collective security subsidiaries offer. And Sector I does mainly pertain to restaurants as you think. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 14:16, August 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for walking me through this. Subsidiaries get .5 turns, so does that mean that I operate up to 2 subsidiaries per turn? What do you put for premises for a stock that wouldn't necessarily have a retail location (ex: CE Biomedical makes pharmaceuticals that you wouldn't necessarily retail)? — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 14:28, August 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * No, the turns are how many actions you can do each day. You can operate them all each day. Well have biomedical have some offices somewhere, premises don't need to be retail or selling places, they can be warehouses, depots or offices. Also with your premises, it needs to be a full adress, as in Street, Neighborhood, Settlement, State. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 14:47, August 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * CE products that go for retail are typically sold in CE Shops (I've designated which go directly to consumers). I have the sites listed here, in the correct format. On the other hand, many of the newer settlements don't have maps (the ones that do are unrealistically small), and its not unreasonable to assume that a base of operation is located outside of a settlement. Costello Enterprises National Laboratory, the site of CE Research, is purposefully in an isolated location. The same would go for energy plants, as I am sure you can imagine. I get that we are going for some competition for plots of land, but it seems ridiculous to limit bases of operation to inside of settlements. In the real world, for some projects, it would be just the opposite. To combat this, we can always raise the price of plots of land that go unmapped or are located in wilderness or make them more difficult to acquire, deterring people from overdoing it. — <font color=#2E6FFD>Christopher Costello (<font color=#2E6FFD>Pikapi • <font color=#2E6FFD>Chat  • <font color=#2E6FFD>What's up ) 15:40, August 9, 2013 (UTC)

RE:
Okay, I'd like to rejoin CNP, and yes, I won't make any major nor minor desicions at all anyway, I'll try to be more active, since I had basically given up ever since I made SCP turned into bull****. Anyway, thanks for letting me back in. Do I add myself as a Vice-Leader or a Party Member? I was also scanning your talk page and realised you support UKIP, I'm a big fan of UKIP and have been for quite a while now, so that's great! <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   18:28, August 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Glad to have you back on board again. And it'll be good to see you more active, you are a very valuable contributor when you are. We'll have a short period of you just being and then a mock election on deputy leader of the party, if you're active enough I'll probably give you the position. :) And glad to see you like UKIP too, personally I think they're a great party and having talked to actual members I think there's a bright future ahead should they get more representation. Now we just need to get lots of representation here, to help this nation! Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 10:26, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

chat chat
Chat, if you're monobook remember the special link I gave you. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  10:27, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

There is already a link on the sidebar, Happy. :P —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 13:08, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

Wikia skin ain't got no sidebar, so he don't know :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 13:10, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

We still gonna finish the education reform? :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:18, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've just had a busy week, yesterday I had three job interviews and I have three more next week, I have the weekend to do things so I will be delivering, don't worry. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 09:04, August 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * :o Why are those English people always busy with jobs and stuff? :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 09:21, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

tss.. Guess who ain't buying the Lovtimes no more :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 17:34, September 7, 2013 (UTC)

Labour
Why did you remove Labpur from the former political parties section, Kunarian? I wouldn't do the same do a CNP page, and also Marcus said I could change it. I don't really mind, its just a bit annoying :P Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 20:03, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Education reform
Don't let it snow under your local politics program ;) --O u WTBsjrief-mich 08:47, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Reverts
I'm not gonna start an edit war (cuz I'm too lazy and I don't really care :P), but the very least you could do is make sure that the spelling and interpunction/capitalization is right... :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:44, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * With what? :P Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 10:46, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * With that indeed :P Don't pretend to be unknowing; you just lazy too :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:49, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * I realised right after that message :L Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 10:51, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * You're a bit "slow of mind"? :o --O u WTBsjrief-mich 10:53, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * Today yes, very little sleep last night. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 11:25, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * :o You gotta hold a siësta, man :P --O u WTBsjrief-mich 11:30, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Interesting development
There's been interesting new development. Also a rather hilarious one, might I add, as poor ol' Philip the Red has some funny titles. Anyway, the trial's coming. King Sebastian I of Lovia (talk) 10:07, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

I'm confused...
Why are there new elections for the Sylvania State Council? We already had them in the summer Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 17:22, September 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * State Election is coming in October. This is a mandatory date. The previous elections could be considered a "trial election" :) --O u WTB 17:24, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, the previous where tests (still official of course), these are the yearly elections. Hoffmann Kunarian TALK 17:26, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

I see! Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 17:27, September 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * Can you make a new page where we can add our names. And why does all those elections happen on user pages. Can't we make a page called 2013 Sylvania State Elections? Wabba The I (talk) 18:41, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

I've always thought that we should do that... Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 18:43, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Citizen page
Could you update the citizen page to show you have residence in Seven please? I know you live in St Stephens, but if I do it for you maybe everyone will expect me to, which would be sad as I'd have to check through a lot of pages. :/ Thanks a lot. :) --Semyon 20:59, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Hi there.
Hi there, I'm back from what you could call a "wikibreak" or such. I noticed I've missed out on alot of amendments, I'm sorry about that, and hopefully I can return to full activeness in these state elections. I'm trying to win Seven as it'd be a very nice state to win. I don't want to plan too far ahead, as Semyon should be a tought opponent, especially with the support he receives from the inactive limburgers, however a state council would be elected, and then the problem of Amish Kinley's current status should be sorted out, as it's just lying there without a current status. Do you agree with me on this? <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  07:23, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * Am I inactive? :P --O u WTB 08:44, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * He was thinking more of benopat and such I think, although he has a point about them not being as active as others, I've enjoyed votes from them and they have contributed to wiki, if in short and sweet manners. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 08:56, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

It's actually nonsense technically, since I believe the Limburgers have rarely had an alternative option. :P --Semyon 09:28, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Not really, the fact that they haven't had an alternative has made them largely into voters for you whether or not there is an alternative. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 09:29, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * I suppose these elections will be a test of that. :) --Semyon 09:31, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * In fact, I never actually won a state election where I was not the only candidate. :P So, maybe not such a tough opponent after all! --Semyon 09:35, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * (edc)Let's take the last federal elections: . Semyon received one major vote from one Limburgish user, which happens to be me (:P), which explains the remark "Am I inactive?". The full list is:
 * OWTB: 7 (29,2%)
 * Bart K: 6 (25%)
 * MartijnM: 4 (16,7%)
 * Semyon: 3 (12,5%)
 * Happy65: 2 (8,3%)
 * Horton11: 1 (4,2%)
 * Wabba: 1 (4,2%)
 * With all respect, they tend to keep their votes within their own community :P So, unless a Limburgish guy is running, it is pretty much undecided. --O u WTB 09:38, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Btw, Happy's minor vote was also mine :P --O u WTB 09:40, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Your points ring true. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 09:41, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Btw, I forgot Wabba's Limburgish too :P He voted: 3 Wabba, 2 OWTB, and 1 Happy. --O u WTB 09:45, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, with the introduction of the State Council, the Governor's power will be less. It would make sense that most of them are going to vote for moi --O u WTB 09:52, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

Brunanter chat
Come on if you can. I'm still on. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP   16:46, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

I need to discuss something, please go to lovia chat, <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  18:18, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

== <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  19:00, September 25, 2013 (UTC) ==

Chat if you're on now. :P Please read this time.

I guess I'll sit in. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 11:49, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

chat
chat please. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  15:10, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll look into it. Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 22:42, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Well that's nice to know. I guess I picked something up from all those years of watching the new, C-SPAN and CNN. :P Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 23:29, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Morning
If you're busy, don't bother going on chat, if you're not, be sure to come on! <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  08:42, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

Appearing on TV
Hi, I know that this is a bit last minute, but would Lukas Hoffmann like to appear on The Hugo Mendes Show? It will involve a Q&A session about the state elections in Sylvania with members of the public, and maybe a little bit of debate. Ideally, I'd like to do this in chat, but it could always happen in the Pub. Thank you! Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 13:10, September 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, when do you want to do this? Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 13:51, September 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ideally today, but we can do it anytime that's convenient for you :) Frijoles333 / Marcel Cebara (talk) 14:40, September 28, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm ready now, just catch me in chat. Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 14:52, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

Kunarian, can you "move" the points where Vivaporius is listed for Senator to the Representatives section? He isn't eligible for Senator - he just accidentally posted two of his candidacies in the Senator section. 77topaz (talk) 06:04, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh I see, sure. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 06:12, September 30, 2013 (UTC)

RE:
My character's full name is David Leskromento, his current adress is 1 Noble Alley, Downtown TV, and he's lived there since October 15, 2012. <font color="Teal"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  06:40, September 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Perfect. :) Hoffmann LogoCNP2wt.png Kunarian TALK 06:49, September 30, 2013 (UTC)

Seven State Council Elections
You did it to me. :) <font color="Blue"> Happy65  <font color="Aqua"> Talk CNP  17:30, September 30, 2013 (UTC)



Dave Leskromento has outlined his campaign in the Speakers Corner, as he pursues the position as Governor of Seven. Now we have to make right the campaign for the State Council there. Dave has outlined the five main points he wants progress in Seven to be based upon. And we (Kunarian and 4Kant6) are dedicated to helping him complete this plan.

Leskromentos Five Points:
 * Economy
 * Help companies grow by having a government fund to help them get the boost to cash flow they need. Companies also need support to grow, therefore a business support program will be built by the Seven State Government.


 * Autonomy
 * Ensure that democracy is close to the people by creating local councils where needed. This will give power to the people and ensure that government is working for them.


 * Education
 * Maintain the already good Seven education system and help fund schools to assist them in expanding and maintaining themselves. We also want to listen and help innovate when it comes to educating our children.


 * Welfare
 * We want to introduce a welfare voucher system that will make life better for the poorest and least well off in our society. We also want to protect the poor from living costs and as such we shall not be implementing VAT.


 * Healthcare
 * The state of Seven needs a hospital, there's already a good population and it's growing. We need to be ready to help our locals with any medical crisis. And as such we shall be constructing a hospital in Seven.

Remember to vote CNP! In the State Council elections and in the Governor elections!

Concerning the State Council Elections
 * If you live in Seven you can vote with a minor and support in the district you reside and then you can vote with a support vote in four rural (single seat) districts
 * If you do not live in Seven then you can vote with a support vote in two rural (single seat) districts

We want you to vote CNP in these rural districts, due to us targeting them, if you can spare one or two support votes then do it:
 * Csongur
 * Greater Kinley
 * British Island
 * Love and Adlibitan Islands

Show us some support!

Support us in the State Council Governor